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Topic 13        Wed Feb 05, 1986
A.COHEN                      (Forwarded) 
Sub: Seq files on Superbase 128

I have a problem using the 1571 to save a seq. file
to output to a word processor.  When the disk has 642 blocks free
the file being saved becomes garbled or isn't saved at all.
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 1         Wed Feb 05, 1986
DEB [*Sysop* DEB]            (Forwarded) 

Is your 1571 in single or double sided mode???  How large is the file
you want to save?  URK, this really sounds like a *bad* bug!!!
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 2         Thu Feb 06, 1986
PRESS24 [Softronics]         (Forwarded) 

SB 128 outputs some very peculiar files loaded wih CHR$(0)'s to boot!

The 1571 also has some interesting quirks of its own - it appears to
update the disk's backside BAM after EVERY write to a sector (so as to
not confuse itself with normal BAM in its memory).  This may be where
the bug comes from as SB appears to use burst mode for everything, and
possibly the drive is not accepting it.

-=<Steve Lewis>=-
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 3         Thu Feb 06, 1986
DEB [*Sysop* DEB]            (Forwarded) 

I'll check with Tranmer about this....but that sounds like it could sure
be the trouble, Steve.  I've decided not to even MESS with the second side
of a 1571 disk, because of all the troubles....Even without burst speeds,
writing to the second side of that disk has troubles of its own, like
even a SEQ file save is the SLOWEST thing I've ever seen in my life!!!!
   
    *deb!*
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 4         Fri Feb 07, 1986
A.COHEN                      (Forwarded) 

>Deb, In answer to your question,
the blocks I'm trying to save are
8 blocks.  I need both sides of the
disk because I need to keep one
month's business on the same disk
for correlation purposes.  This is
why I got rid of my 1541 and got a
1571.  I am using double sided
disks.
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 5         Fri Feb 07, 1986
PRESS24 [Softronics]         (Forwarded) 

Another problem the 1571 may be having with Superbase:

Supposedly in "fast" mode (2 megahertz) the computer will not properly
talk to the serial buss.  I seriously doubt that the folks at SB could
have forgotten to "turn down" the computer speed, for I don't have this
problem, but tis possible I have a later release.

-=<Steve Lewis>=-
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 6         Sun Apr 27, 1986
NNORMAL                      (Forwarded) 

I just bought Superbase 64 and love it...
Where oh where can I get Superbase 128...?
This is sort of a bug...
my bug ... but I just thought Id share it
ehehe
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 7         Mon Apr 28, 1986
DEB [*deb!*]                 (Forwarded) 

SuperBase 128/Super Script US Distributors are:
  Progressive Peripherals
  464 Kalamath St.
  Denver, CO  80204
  (303)  825-4144
  
 These programs are also finding their way into dealers and <some> mass
markets already, but if you cannot find them locally, I'm pretty sure that
Progressive can fill an individual order.
  
 I've not had time to dig extensively into SuperBase yet, but I'm very 
impressed with what I have worked with of it!
  
 I use Super SCript ALL the time, lets me do some of the MASSIVE editing
jobs I have to do to keep up with everyone here on the board...!
  <<grin>>
  
   *deb!*
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 14        Tue Apr 29, 1986
NNORMAL [TALKTALK]           (Forwarded) 

Thanks for the Superbase 128 distributor's address. I cant wait to get a 
copy for myself. I'm going start a a new topic now for my next question.
Its about the loads and loads of software and which is best! 
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 15        Tue Jul 01, 1986
B.GRAY [Brent]               (Forwarded) 

Where should I start???  As some (all?) of you may know, the 1571
has some very serious bugs in at least one of the ROMs.  This is
what is causing all the problems in Superbase.  (It is also apparent
in other Databases which are very disk intensive; i.e. Consultant, 
Timeworks Data Manager 128, etc.)  It is only a problem once you 
begin using the SECOND side of the disk, and is especially devastating 
when sorting a large file... in fact it just DOES NOT work!!!
 
Most phone calls to Commodore get a polite denial that the problem
exists, but it does and some Commodore engineers will acknowledge
that they are working on a new ROM.  Actually the first 'draft'
is already done and BETA testing is underway.  Progressive Peripherals
have the ROM and say it works great with SB.  No more problems!!
 
Unfortunately these new ROMs won't be "officially" available until who
knows when??????????  (If ever???)  As a Commodore dealer and
dedicated Superbase programmer, I am VERY interested in the progress 
of this "situation."
 
I'll keep you informed...      Brent Gray
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 16        Wed Jul 02, 1986
GBARRETT [VISION100]         (Forwarded) 

   Brent...check the Library for the 1571 Write fix...it's one you
can change thru programming...
   Beyond that, you may be waiting for a Loooooong time for Commodore to come up 
with the proper upgrade...and even longer before you can have it in YOUR drive!
-Gary
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 17        Thu Jul 10, 1986
B.GRAY [Brent]               (Forwarded) 

GBARRETT...

Thanks for the information on the 1571 problem!
I especially appreciate the tip on the 1571 Write Fix in the 
library.  Unfortunately, I can't find it.  I've searched
under '1571'...  'write'...  &  'fix'...

There is one called second side secret... but it deals more
with the slow second side reads and writes, NOT the problems
caused by the bad chip.

Do you have any more information???

Thanks...    Brent
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Message 18        Fri Jul 11, 1986
GWAYNE [Gwf]                 (Forwarded) 

You may be right. I don't think it is here. I will find. It should be in lib 9. 
Gary
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 19        Sun Jul 13, 1986
DEB [*deb!*]                 (Forwarded) 

YES, there are bugs in the 1571 RO~MS, and they are being fixed, and CBM
will be releasing new ROMS...
  
The bug happens when you access side two, it gets confused, and instead of
making room in its OWN RAM buffer the right way, get this,...
 IT STEALS the BAM's BUFFER
 
 **WHAMM**
  
This is causing all sorts of errors under different conditions, which is why
it was so difficult to track down.
  
You all can get the story right from those working on it later this month
during the JEFF PORTER Conference.
  
     *deb!*
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 20        Sun Jul 13, 1986
WDBAILEY [SIR WAYNE]         (Forwarded) 




DEB,  How are we going to be able to get these new Roms?  Any word on cost?
  
Sir Wayne..
 
 
 
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Category 14,  Topic 13
Message 21        Mon Jul 14, 1986
DEB [*deb!*]                 (Forwarded) 

You can read exactly what Jeff Porter, from CBM, said about it all,
nothing is definate right now.   The file is uploaded already into
the Software Library, in the INFO Exchange.
  
   AND...this gives everyone here a head start on questions to ask
him for follow up!
  
    *deb!*