GE Mail Item 9687174 96/08/06 01:03 From: BRAIN@CONCH.AA.MSEN.COM@INET01# Internet Gateway To: G.NOGGLE Gregory C. Noggle Sub: MAILNEWS: comp.sys.cbm Digest From brain@conch.aa.msen.com Tue Aug 6 05:04:59 1996 Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com (for inet01#) ( p822/1.32 ) ; Tue, 6 Aug 96 05:15:22 UTC 0000 Received: from relay3.UU.NET by relay1.geis.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA224507898; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 05:04:59 GMT Return-Path: Received: from rock101.genie.net by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: genie.com [199.164.140.11]) id QQbbnw12784; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 01:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from conch.aa.msen.com (brain@conch.aa.msen.com [148.59.6.20]) by rock101.genie.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA23079 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 05:03:02 GMT Received: (from brain@localhost) by conch.aa.msen.com (8.7.4/8.6.12) id BAA05305 for g.noggle@genie.com; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 01:03:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Brain Message-Id: <199608060503.BAA05305@conch.aa.msen.com> Subject: MAILNEWS: comp.sys.cbm Digest for 1996-08-06 To: g.noggle@genie.geis.com Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 01:03:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit #! rnews 2131 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed. internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!manawatu.planet.co.nz!manawatu.gen.nz!news.express. co.nz!waik ato!waikato!ppm.slip.waikato.ac.nz!user From: lincard@itsmac.waikato.ac.nz (LINCARD 1000) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Star NX1000C prob Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 13:13:26 +1200 Organization: At home and happy Lines: 29 Sender: ppm3@waikato.ac.nz Message-ID: References: <4tssv2$f7a@login. freenet.columbus.oh.us> Reply-To: ppm3@waikato.ac.nz NNTP-Posting-Host: ppm.slip.waikato.ac.nz In article <4tssv2$f7a@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us>, hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Harold Stevens) wrote: > To find out if your print head is working, do the following short test on > your NX-1000C: hold down the "on line" button while turning on your printer. > > If the printer works from the short test, then try getting another serial > cable to make sure the cable is not defective. How do have your disk > drives and printer set up? Mine is set up this way -- C-64 to 1541-II > (device 8) to 1581 (device 9) to NX-1000C. The printer has to be last on > the serial daisy chain. Also, check to see if the problem persists in both > of the C= serial outlets on the printer. Hiya.. Well I actually got the thing working... I had previously tried all of those suggestions, but nothing seemed to work. I opened it up and had a good look around... lo and behold one of the fuses inside was blown. Why this should have caused the problem I dunno... Our power supply here in NZ isnt overly reliable, full of spikes and stuff, so Im suspecting it was one of those that fried it. But its working now - I dont have to use a crummy Riteman printer anymore!! :-) Thanx for your suggestions anyway! :-) -- ___ E-Mail: lincard@itsmac.waikato.ac.nz / / INC.A.R.D 1000 / /___________________ "I'm more of a man than you'll ever /_______________________\ be, and more of a woman than you'll ever get!" :-) #! rnews 816 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!in-news.erinet.com!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i !samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!news.PBI.net!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com! decwrl!nntp.crl.com!crl2.crl.com!not-for-mail From: koyn@crl.com (T. Koyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Need X1541 cable Date: 4 Aug 1996 21:49:17 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access(415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 4 Message-ID: <4u3ugd$6u3@crl2.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl2.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I am looking to obtain a x1541 cable. Since I am not familier with building cables, I am wondering if someone has one that they no longer need after having transferred their data, or if I can buy one somewhere. Thanks in advance. #! rnews 1191 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.mc.net!news.netins.net!phdss From: phdss@worf.netins.net (Phd Software Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Programmers wanted! Date: 5 Aug 1996 05:08:21 GMT Organization: INS Info Services, Des Moines, Iowa, USA Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4u3vk5$tc7@insosf1.netins.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: worf.netins.net Mo> No, the chip probably won't change anything. The faster processor means that there can now be some very respectable programs writing in basic. One of the interesting things to run on a SCPU is some of the old stuff that seemed pathetically slow - it looks like pure ml on the SCPU. Which ultimately means the programming market has opened up to a whole host of new programmers who are great at basic but never learned ml. Mo> What does the C-64 need to revitalize its missing link in time? It The only thing we are short of to make the 64/128 line a viable platform again, is an svga cartridge. Who knows, with an SVGA cartridge, the 64 may be the mythical cheap "net-in-a-box" everyone is trying to build. ... phdss@worf.netins.net #! rnews 726 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!news. mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf01.news. aol.co m!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: xclan02@aol.com (XcLaN02) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Hey there Date: 5 Aug 1996 01:40:48 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 3 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4u41h0$ki1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: xclan02@aol.com (XcLaN02) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I am making a WWW page w/ C64 stuff. It will include a Links page. If you want your link to appear in it, please E-mail me at stripesjr@aol.com, and include the name and URL of your page. Thanks! :) #! rnews 699 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas. edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.n et!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol. com!not-for-mail From: xclan02@aol.com (XcLaN02) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: CD Orders? Date: 5 Aug 1996 01:47:35 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 2 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4u41tn$klc@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: xclan02@aol.com (XcLaN02) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com If anyone is selling C64 related CD-ROMs, please send order forms to stripesjr@aol.com. Please respond. Thanks! :) #! rnews 1945 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net!uknet! usene t1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!usenet From: wanderer_rtc@usa.pipeline.com(R. T. Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Programmers wanted! Date: 5 Aug 1996 05:21:12 GMT Organization: BBS SysOp Extraordinaire Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4u40c8$l73@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.231.5 X-PipeUser: wanderer_rtc X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (R. T. Cunningham) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 I spend most of my time programming for Color 64 Version 128, and will continue when Centipede (BBS) for the 128 is released. On the side, I write QD&D programs for my own uses. However, I'm currently working a project that I hope will involve more programmers than just me. Will the SuperCPU (64 or 128) make a big difference in the commie community? For GEOS or otherwise? I don't think so. If we really want to breathe life back into the commie community, we need serious video and sound upgrades. In reality, probably a new commie type computer altogether. CMD seems to be the only company at present that could possibly deliver what we would expect. Face it, why did the 64 become so popular in the first place? Load and run. Something that IBM and Apple (among others) couldn't deliver. To this day, you have to know how to configure your computer as well as your software when it comes to the PC. What we need is a computer that can load and run with the current technology. Then, and only then, will we see the people who once made the 64 great return and kick butt with the new stuff and blow the others away. Pipe dream, I'm sure. Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer) SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892 #! rnews 1912 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.inc.net!newspump.sol.net!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Radioactive Warrior Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: "More" text viewer for REUless users Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 01:59:56 +0000 Organization: What? me! worry?! Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3205559C.46DC@orl.mindspring.com> References: <4u37h9$rte@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Reply-To: radwar@orl.mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-176-117.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Adam Vardy wrote: > > There are various ways to read a text file. One thing that has always > been lacking for me is a good way to read a very large text file. You > can read such a thing right off disk with various SEQ text file > viewers. But say I am reading DisC=overy (around 200K), and I want to > go to an article near the end. It will take forever to get to it. > With Zed 128 you can load the whole thing up at once, IF you have an > REU. I haven't seen any discussion of a good way to view massive text > files without an REU, not sure why. I assume no one else has written > any program to deal with this situation? My first thought is a program that would chain through the file pulling out track/sector pairs into c64 memory then have the computer show you a sector at a time the text like it was a virtual window, scrolling for- ward or back... This would also allow the user to easily sever the file into smaller parts or allow easy positioning to start reading any- where in the file... I could write this in a few hours for the c64/1541 but I am not familiar with the extra tracks of the 1571 or 1581 and how they are delt with by DOS... Any other ideas? Lates, Radioactive Warrior #! rnews 2658 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Radioactive Warrior Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C64 files to Macintosh? Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 02:29:51 +0000 Organization: What? me! worry?! Lines: 38 Message-ID: <32055C9F.62A0@orl.mindspring.com> References: <32053B64.7203@interaccess.com> Reply-To: radwar@orl.mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-176-117.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Bruce Burdick, Jr. wrote: > > I have a Macintosh and a bunch of old C64 files on C64 floppies which > I would like to transfer. I also have a 5 1/4" Dayna drive (for PC > floppies). Is there a way to do this? > > -B... I am in the same perdicament but I have transfered almost 100meg the hard way- using a 2400 baud C= modem and novaterm (Y-modem) on the c64 side and Zterm and my MAC modem on the MAC side. I have been told many times to make up a "null" modem cable where you don't need to have any modems but I haven't gotten all the parts gathered together yet... Also, with a null modem cable, the xfer speed is faster but don't expect 14k4bps or faster cause the c64 maxes at 9600- besides, the 1541 bottle- necks the speed down to ~4800bps assuming you don't have jiffy-dos... Anyway, to get the above to work, set up your c64 modem and term to the max. speed (ie. 1200 baud for a C= 1670...) Set up your MAC modem and term and set the term DCE port speed to the same as your max c64 speed (you may have difficulty connecting with anything lower than 1200 baud- might just be my cheep modem, though...) Then the modems will need to be connected together by a standard modular telephone cord (ie. "LINE" port on the MAC modem runs to the "LINE" port on the c64- make sure both modems are disconnected from the wall- no dialtone is needed...) The next step depends on the modem you are using on your c64 but for a C= 1670, this is not necessary. You must instruct the modem to ignore the dialtone status (refer to your modem user book) "ATX3" works for me. Then the modems are ready to connect... Issue a dial command on the c64 term/modem, "ATD" while simultaneously issuing an answer command on your MAC, "ATA" The two modems should connect right up. That is the easist way to transfer files but it is slow and also assumes you have the two computers side-by-side and two modems and novaterm... Well, anyway, let us know if you can't get this far. Later, Radioactive Warrior #! rnews 1143 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au! news.mira.net.au!news.vbc.net!alpha.sky.net!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprint link.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp! usenet From: arendt@usa.pipeline.com(mike arendt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Reading 1541 disks on PC Date: 5 Aug 1996 08:25:39 GMT Organization: Pipeline Lines: 21 Message-ID: <4u4b63$3en@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4u37ue$bvm@crl4.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.231.2 X-PipeUser: arendt X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (mike arendt) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 yes, you do need a special cable! there's a place called SEATTLE LABS they sale the docs, cable and disk for 75.69 (that icludes tax) but for shipping, that may make it a little more! phone : (206) 402-6003 it will allow you to use 1541 or 1571 dive to run on IBM systems. also, it will also let you convert all your disks to run on IBM hd or floppy disks. nice package, tell them Mike Arendt sent you, im one of there new clients thats satisfied! p.s. they also have tech support! #! rnews 1358 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeeder.sdsu.edu! news.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.eng.convex.com! n ewshost.convex.com!cnn.exu.ericsson.se!eua.ericsson.se!erinews.ericsson.se! antares.lu.erisoft.se!usenet From: Adam Bergstrom Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: VIC-20 RAM Expansion Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 12:11:53 +0200 Organization: Erisoft AB, Sweden Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3205C8E9.61E4@um.erisoft.se> References: <3204ccfd.0@205.198.215.6> NNTP-Posting-Host: uss001.um.erisoft.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Jonathan William Taylor wrote: > > Does anyone have or know where I can find a schematic for a VIC-20 ram > expansion unit? I'm interested in maxing it out, though smaller sizes > (3K, 8K etc.) would be way better than what I have now (nothing). > > -Jonathan Taylor > jwtaylor@tab.com I've made some schematics for this. You can find them at: http://www.hut.fi/~msmakela/cbm/docs/exp-vic20to32kB.html Sorry, no PCB layout yet. /Adam +------------------------------------+ |Name : Adam Bergstrom | |E-mail: adam.bergstrom@um.erisoft.se| |Memo : eri.epl.eplabm | +------------------------------------+ #! rnews 1246 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeeder.sdsu.edu! news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu. net !news.ios.com!tribeca.ios.com!aperotti From: aperotti@tribeca.ios.com (Anthony R Perotti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: OVER 30000 C64 PROGRAMS!!! Date: 5 Aug 1996 11:26:22 GMT Organization: Internet Online Services Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4u4lou$cuj@news.ios.com> References: <4tlt0b$4br@rubens.telebyte.nl> <4tqart$kk1@login.freenet.columbus. oh.us> <4tu90m$ni7@news.us.net> <4u2g77$crc@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tribeca.ios.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Michael W. Hall (mhall59@mail.us.net) wrote: : Anyway, sure piracy is illegal. Im not questioning that. However I dont : think it is affecting anyone in the commodore world in the manner it is : always stated. Effect is not the point. It is the priciple of the thing. Offering someone else's work for sale without their permission is just wrong. -- ____ ,^o | aperotti@us.net / _ ._ | C=128D,JD,Swiftlink,CMD HD40,RAMLink, /_(_)_| )_\/ | Boccamodem 14.4,1581,fun,fun,fun. Perotti / | -=8 bits should be enough for anyone=- #! rnews 1835 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news. mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs. ohio-sta te.edu!freenet.columbus.oh.us!not-for-mail From: hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Harold Stevens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Star NX1000C prob Date: 5 Aug 1996 08:50:33 -0400 Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4u4qmp$qbs@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <4tssv2$f7a@login. freenet.columbus.oh.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: login.freenet.columbus.oh.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] LINCARD 1000 (lincard@itsmac.waikato.ac.nz) wrote: : Hiya.. Well I actually got the thing working... I had previously tried all : of those suggestions, but nothing seemed to work. I opened it up and had a : good look around... lo and behold one of the fuses inside was blown. Why : this should have caused the problem I dunno... Our power supply here in NZ : isnt overly reliable, full of spikes and stuff, so Im suspecting it was : one of those that fried it. But its working now - I dont have to use a : crummy Riteman printer anymore!! :-) Oops. I forgot about the fuse. BTW, if you live in an area with all kinds of power problems like spikes and etc., if might be a good idea to invest in a surge guard. I have two hooked to my system due to the fact that during the summertime I have to put up with frequent thunder showers or thunder storms in the afternoons and evenings and I have had my C-64C fried at least once due to a power spike that occured during a storm. --Harold -- Internet addresses: hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us h.stevens@genie.com hg350@cleveland.freenet.edu #! rnews 2753 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au! news.mira.net.au!vic.news.telstra.net!act.news.telstra.net!psgrain!iafrica.com! pip ex-sa.net!plug.news.pipex.net!pipex!tube.news.pipex.net!pipex!soap.news.pipex. net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.be.innet.net!INbe.net!news.nl.innet.ne !INnl.net!hunter.premier.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr. net!news.netins.net!phdss From: phdss@worf.netins.net (Phd Software Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: #C-64 Innappropriate Date: 5 Aug 1996 17:40:56 GMT Organization: INS Info Services, Des Moines, Iowa, USA Lines: 52 Message-ID: <4u5bn8$b1s@insosf1.netins.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: worf.netins.net Rg> I Don't think I did anything wrong, did I? I think IRC automatically bans anyone who has a sig file longer than one screen . Rg> Colin Guillas Rg> http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ag090 Rg> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/1603 Rg> So what does the Maytag man do in his spare time? >Plays with his C=64 of course :-) (THX Jack) Rg> Was Sally really Harry? Rg> How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? Rg> It all boils down to: WHO THE HELL CARES? (Well...maybe Sally's boy Rg> friend...) SUPPORT FREE SPEECH ON THE INTERNET! 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These included Summer Games, Winter Games, Summer Games II, World Games, California Games, and California Games II. I have all of these but California Games II.. would anyone be interested in exchanging world records with me just to see how they compare? Also, does anyone have the manual to the original Summer Games? I seem to have lost mine. I know, I know, this is *ancient* stuff, and my Commodore has been gathering dust for years, but I pulled it out last night... still worked!! Just curious if there is anyone out there just like me. Any help or comments are appreciated!! -- ---- The Armknechts, Doug, Henry, Debby, and Amy Internet e-mail -- douga@midusa.net The Armknecht Family web page: http://homepage.midusa.net/~douga Also check out our hometown's web page (Cawker City, Kansas) http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/towns/Cawker/cawker.html #! rnews 2477 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeeder.sdsu.edu! news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu. net !psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!usenet From: wanderer_rtc@usa.pipeline.com(R. T. Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Commodore HD? Date: 5 Aug 1996 12:13:39 GMT Organization: BBS SysOp Extraordinaire Lines: 51 Message-ID: <4u4ohj$fgh@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <32014350.77E4@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.231.5 X-PipeUser: wanderer_rtc X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (R. T. Cunningham) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 On Aug 01, 1996 18:52:49 in article , '"Jack Followay, Jr." ' wrote: >R. T. Cunningham (or Wanderer as the reader might know) wrote: >> >> Wow, what a topic! Anyway, I can stand corrected. I vaguely remember the >> Lt. Commander. What I really meant was that the CMD RAMLink was completely >> incompatible with the Lt.Kernal, not the HD. >> >> How's that for humility and skipping around the corner? > >That is disappointing to hear (re: RAMlink w/Kernal). I was thinking >about >getting a RAMlink. Any word on compatibility of the Lt. Kernal w/ >SuperCPU?? >I can't afford to switch to a CMD HardDrive just to get a SuperCPU. > Adam Fanello (Ant) tells me that the SuperCPU is not compatible with the Lt. Kernal either. >Wanderer ALSO wrote (a while back): >>> >>> You know, I never knew that the Lt. Kernal system was contained in a >>> cartridge! > >Yep. All that's in the case is the drive itself and a Power Supply. >For a while I was using a PC case for the drive. Much better Power >Supply (especially considering the age of my Kernal) and I could mount >the >Multiplexer inside, etc. One of these days I'll get motivated enough to >mount an SX-64 inside a tower with the Lt. Kernal. > >Tell me (maybe some CMD Guru or other person 'in the know'), will the >CMD >drive every be Multi-plexable? (new phrase) > >-JackLF Word I got from CMD is that there is not a big enough demand for a muxer for the CMD drives. The only way they'll produce one is if we treat it like the Super128CPU - by sending postcards and E-Mail. There would have to be a demand equivalent to that in order to prompt them to even try it. -- Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer) SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892 #! rnews 2972 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!qns3. qns.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp! psinntp !usenet From: wanderer_rtc@usa.pipeline.com(R. T. Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Converting to Word Date: 5 Aug 1996 18:24:58 GMT Organization: BBS SysOp Extraordinaire Lines: 72 Message-ID: <4u5e9q$9qb@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4u37q1$hcr@herald.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.231.4 X-PipeUser: wanderer_rtc X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (R. T. Cunningham) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 On Aug 04, 1996 22:21:53 in article , 'craftyc@cris.com' wrote: >What steps would I need to take in order to convert a Word file to a file >that could be read by a C= word processor? > >For example, If I send a formatted (e.g., Bold, italics, etc) word >processing file to myself (uuencoded) via email, then download it (without >translating it into PETSCII), and then uudecode it, I would have an >untouched Word document sitting on my C=. > >What steps would I go through to convert the formatting codes to something >a C= word processor would interpret correctly? > >I am assuming that I would be able to not translate the file into PETSCII. > >Is there a way I could modify a C= word processor to read "bold" using the >same lingo that Word uses? > >On the other end, does anyone out there know of a patch that I could put >into Word which would give me an option under "Save As..." to save as a C= >file? (e.g., it would convert the formatting into lingo a C= word >processor would understand - maybe it could even convert it to and from >PETSCII). > >Please please help! > >I do not program, but I am getting to the point with this issue that I am >thinking of tackling it on the C= side. Anyone willing to help me? :-) > >I am willing to pay for some sort of good conversion routine between the >two! > >Chris McLeod (of the clan MacLeod) > >PS Right now I am using Pocket Writer and GeoWrite. Doing it on the PC in Word would not be possible unless you programmed it yourself, provided you knew how. On the Commodore side however, I'll give you some tips. 1) You need the translation program...it's out there somewhere..that translates standard ASCII to PETASCII. This is only necessary if you Pocket Writer and GeoWrite don't recognize standard ASCII. 2) List the document from Word with the formatting commands in it. Use the DOS Edit. Make a note of which codes do what. 3) Write a converter on the Commodore that reads in the file changes the codes to something your programs recognize, and you're in business. I can't help on this one for 3 reasons. 1) I don't own Word. 2) I don't own pocket writer. 3) I don't own GEOS. Sorry, good luck! -- Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer) SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892 #! rnews 4703 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news. mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp! psinntp!usen et From: wanderer_rtc@usa.pipeline.com(R. T. Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: OVER 30000 C64 PROGRAMS!!! Date: 5 Aug 1996 12:35:04 GMT Organization: BBS SysOp Extraordinaire Lines: 89 Message-ID: <4u4ppo$gka@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4u33d7$89e@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.231.5 X-PipeUser: wanderer_rtc X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (R. T. Cunningham) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 Ward says it so well. I think the point is that if you want original software without any defects, you have to buy it. Most of the "cracks" and "demos" have bugs generated by trying to get around the original copy protection or drive specific information. I would pay $50.00 for an original software product over 100 whacked copies of the same product. In another light, if you have a really intensive software product that you need the documentation for, again you have to buy it. I don't think pirates like to scan/type entire manuals for the software they're pirating. Let's go back to the definition of pirating. Making a profit from someone else's work. Most copies of Commodore software being distributed now are being illegally distributed to be sure, but pirating is not the proper terminology or mindset. Most of the people participating aren't making any money off the distribution. On the other hand, if someone *IS* making money off of illegally distributed copies, that person (or people) should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. That person *IS* taking money out of the owner's pocket - whether it's pennies or megabucks. If you're selling a CD with software on it that is still being supported, you should be hung by your testicles. You're making money whether you say so or not. Nobody goes to this kind of trouble if there is nothing in it for him. On the other hand, if you have permission from the authors/copyright holders, you are well within your rights to publish it. I don't think you have a letter from each of the companies/authors associated with each of the programs on the CD. I'll sum this up. I, as a software author, would not write software that I knew was going to be gobbled up by the likes of you, the moron selling the CD, and distributed for free if I wanted to make my own money. On Aug 04, 1996 17:06:47 in article , 'wshrake@aol.com (WShrake)' wrote: >The spirit of copyright protection is that while the author of a (textual) >work was still alive, that he/she would benefit from his/her work. But >balancing that, right in the original laws, was that IDEAS could NOT be >copyrighted, only the EXPRESSION of ideas. > >In other words, the laws originally intended to benefit both the author >(while they were alive) and the PUBLIC too, by letting everyone else >benefit from the IDEAS created. > >Just for what its worth, as I rarely see any posts about copyright law, >where the writer has a clue what they are talking about. I won't even get >started on Trademarks and Patents.... > >There is a balance here, folks! You can argue forever about whether or not >the LETTER of the law has been violated in some case. But the SPIRIT of >the law is plain; once the original author of a work dies, its public >domain for everybody else! This allows both groups to benefit, progress to >be made, and so on. > >The difficulty arose when the lawmakers could not decide where software >should fit in, legally, so they treated it like a text work. All sorts of >screwy problems now result, and the laws have not been addressed yet, to >fix them. > >Whatever. Enough of that... > >But, you need a grasp of Commodore's early history, to put this all into >better perspective. Commodore themselves GOT POPULAR by stealing other >people's copyrights! > >I'm talking about them doing unauthorized Vic20 ports of Space Invaders, >Galaxian, Pac-Man, Lunar Lander, Night Driver, Rally-X, Avalanche / >Kaboom!, and so on. > >In other words, the first dozen or so Vic20 carts are about half filled >with "pirated" games! Guess what? Is it any mystery that the Commodore >computers later had a piracy mindset heavily in place? The manufacturers >did it. So did lots of users, later. > >I'm not arguing whether any of this is right, or is wrong. I'm just >saying, it happens now, it has happened before, etc, etc... > >Ward Shrake -- Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer) SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892 #! rnews 779 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au! news.mira.net.au!news.vbc.net!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!news.PBI.net!news. math works.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsrelay.courtave.net!polo.iquest.com! usenet From: Bill Cotter Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Silly question #1 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 19:58:58 -0500 Organization: USAOMMCS Lines: 4 Distribution: world Message-ID: <320698D2.118B@iquest.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn-e50.iquest.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) Hopefully, I won't get laughed out of house and home, but is there a method of converting a Commodore .d64 file to an executable file for DOS? Bill #! rnews 497 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed. internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!delphi.com!usenet From: joy daidola Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS:::Geos 64 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:45:52 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 2 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1b.delphi.com Have Geos 64 2.0..not in use ..manuel and origional box...$15.+ shipping Please e-mil me if interested #! rnews 549 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!delphi.com! usenet From: joy daidola Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS:::Kracker Jax Date: Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:47:55 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 2 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1b.delphi.com Have full kracker Jax disk cracker..all disks and instructions...$20.+ shipping..please e-mail me if interested.. #! rnews 1609 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!news.minds pring.com!usenet From: Radioactive Warrior Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: "The Games" series from Epyx Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 13:57:23 +0000 Organization: What? me! worry?! Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3205FDC3.1077@orl.mindspring.com> References: <32061682.1595@midusa.net> Reply-To: radwar@orl.mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-176-117.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Armknechts wrote: > > A looong time back, a company called Epyx made a series called "The Games." These > included Summer Games, Winter Games, Summer Games II, World Games, California Games, and > California Games II. I have all of these but California Games II.. would anyone be > interested in exchanging world records with me just to see how they compare? Someone please confirm. I don't believe EPYX ever released/made CALIFORNIA GAMES II for the c64 (or any other platform for that matter). I could be wrong... Also, to the best of my knoweldge, THE GAMES: SUMMER EDITION was another game with different events than SUMMER GAMES I and II. This is the only EPYX "GAMES" I don't have but could get it calling 2400baud LD... As far I as I have heard, THE GAMES was released with many bugs so I haven't made obtaining it a priority... Is there a hacked version that has any bugs fixed? late- RadWar #! rnews 1883 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news. mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!nntp.inet.fi!news.funet.fi! newsfeed. sunet.se!news00.sunet.se!sunic!mn6.swip.net!mn5.swip.net!news From: christer.bjarnemo@mailbox.swipnet.se (Christer Bjarnemo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Erm, digitising sound on c64 Date: 04 Aug 96 22:27:55 +0100 Organization: - Lines: 35 Message-ID: <1214.6790T1347T2752@mailbox.swipnet.se> References: <3201FA08.7759@extro.ucc.su.oz.au> <4tt8go$18hj@newsgate.sps.mot. com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup116-7-13.swipnet.se NNTP-Posting-User: s-29817 X-Newsreader: THOR 2.3 (Amiga;TCP/IP) *UNREGISTERED* On 02-Aug-96 16:57:12, Jeff Hunsinger wrote about Re: Erm, digitising sound on c64. >If you mean using the volume control on the SID, then congratulations! You >figured out how most sound samples are played on the C64. This thread made me remember an old "scan-memory-for-samples"-routine i did a long time ago. I could never understand why it crashed halfway through the memory... It looked something like this: loop: [bankswitch; ram] lda $0800,x [bankswitch; i/o] sta $volumereg inx [check if x=0; if false, jump to loop] [selfmodifying code to increase $08 to $09 :-)] jmp loop As i said, it worked fine halfway through memory, but then just crashed for no reason. Don't try to find bugs in this example; i just wrote it down as i remembered it. And the program itself is so simple, so im sure there wasn't any problem with the code... My guess is that the hardware didn't like to bankswitch/write to SID at this high rate.... However, im sure one of you hardware gurus out there have an explanation for this... -- Christer Bjarnemo My 8 bit Corner: Author of nothing useful http://www.interbalc.se/sales/christer/ -- Bumper sticker: JazzerSleep #! rnews 1159 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!chi-news.cic.net!News1.mcs. net!imci2!pull-feed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!aldehyde.netone. com! news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-12.sprintlink.net!ratty.wolfe.net!news.aa.net!f103. n3407.z1.fidonet.org!Kungfushi! From: Kungfushi@f103.n3407.z1.fidonet.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Programmers wanted! Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:21:24 Organization: Alternate Access Incorporated Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.139.116.108 On 08/05/96, Kungfushi quoted All: Re: Programmers wanted!. RT> Well, I know of one. Mr. Brian Bell who writes Omni 128 BBS. Mr Ben RT> Holmes, who just recently finished a new Lotto program for the 64. And RT> there are many others, I'm sure. Part of the problem with Commodore RT> programs is that its difficult to distribute- Gated via NewsHound 2.0 Are we talking about Lottoman here? If we are, it should be noted that a person representing the program announced that they were not going to upgrade the lottoman program anymore if I remember correctly.