ÔHIS IS AN EDITED, ORGANIZED RECORDOF THE 1541 ÄISK ÄRIVE ÃONFERENCE OF
ÍARCH, 1989.  ÔHE DISCUSSION WANDERED INTO OTHER HARDWARE AREAS, INCLUDING
ADDRESSING CARTRIDGES AND THE CONTINUING SAGA OF PRINTERS THAT DON'T QUITE.

     ÏUR HARDWARE HOSTS ARE ÄIGITAL.ÄOC AND Ó.ÐROCTOR1.

     ÔHE CONFERENCE OPENED WITH A QUESTION ABOUT THE VARIOUS MANUFACTURERS OF
THE DRIVE MECHANISM USED IN THE 1541 AT VARIOUS TIMES AND THEIR REPUTATIONS FOR
QUALITY.

<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÔHE ÎEUTRONICS WAS THE LATER ONE, RIGHT?
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ÔHE 1/4 TURN HANDLE, É THINK.  ÙES.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÔHAT'S WHAT É THOUGHT.  ÔHE ÎEUTRONICS SO FAR HAS THE BETTER
REPUTATION FOR RELIABILITY.  ÔHE EARLIER MODEL HAS SOME SERIOUS MECHANICAL
DEFICIENCIES.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÈOW DOES ONE TELL WHICH PERIOD PIECE ONE HAS?
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÍOSTLY BY THE HANDLE
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÈANDLE?
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ÓO IN FACT, MY OLD '41 WITH THE LATCH MECH. ISN'T A REAL
BARGAIN <SIGH>.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÉF YOU HAVE THE 1/4 TURN TYPE, YOU HAVE THE ÎEUTRONICS.  ÂILL, IT
CAN BE OK, BUT IT TAKES A LITTLE MORE CARE.
<Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> É THINK THE PUSH DOWN IS BEST, 4 OF 'EM WITH NO PROBLEM, 2 RETURNED
1/4 TURNS AND A 128Ä 1/4 WITH NO LUCK,
<Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÔHE ÃINEMAWARE ×ÁÒÐ ÓPEED ÃARTDRIDGE WON'T ALLOW DIRECT DISK ACCESS
COMMANDS, CAN É KILL IT AND RE-ENABLE IT?  (×ARP ÓPEED)
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> É WOULD THINK SO ÁÒ, BUT É HAVEN'T REALLY HAD EXPERIENCE WITH
THAT CART.  ÍOST OF THE CARTS THAT AFFECT THE DISK ALLOW FOR A SYS COMMAND TO
ENABLE/DISABLE.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> É TAKE IT THAT THE DOCS DON'T SAY ANYTHING ON THE
SUBJECT.  ÆASTLOAD  & ÓTARDOS & ÊIFFYDOS ALL HAVE A METHOD TO DISALBE, BUT IT'S
NOT ALWAYS IN THE MOST ACCESSIBLE PLACE IN THE DOCS.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ×ELL, ÁÒ, É HAVE THE PUSH DOWN TYPE MYSELF AND IT'S SOMETHING
LIKE 5 YEARS OLD.
<Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> É HAVE THE ÆINAL ÃARTRIDGE AND THE ÆAST LOAD, ÎO PROBLEMS WITH DIRECT
ACCESS.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> É USE THE ÆASTLOAD, AND HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS AT ALL.  ÅSPECIALLY
WITH THE OLD (WHITE CASE) TYPE ÒÏÍÓ.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> Á.Ò. É DON'T HAVE A ×ARP ÃART, SO É CAN'T HELP YA OUT, THERE.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÈMM.  É DON'T HAVE THE ×ARP CARTRIDGE EITHER, BUT É
HAVE AN ACQUAINTANCE THAT RUNS A ÂÂÓ WHO DOES.  ÈE MIGHT KNOW ÉÆ É CAN GET ON.
ÖERY POPULAR BOARD.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÂILL, THE PUSH DOWN TYPE CAN BE REALIGNED USING A PROG AND A
LITTLE MECH WORK.  ÁLIGNMENT/SPEED IS IT'S WORST PROBLEM.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> É'VE RE-ALIGNED MINE ONLY TWICE.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ×HAT DID YOU USE?
<Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÄIGITAL.ÄOC, ÓPIRIT ÓOFTWARE COVERS SPEED ALSO.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> É USED THE 41 ÐHYSICAL ÅXAM, AND IT WAS PERFECT, AFTEER THAT.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÓPEED IS AS CRITICAL AS ALIGNMENT
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÂOTH OF THOSE SEEM TO BE GOOD PROGS
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> É USE A PROG É FOUND IN ÃOMPUTE ÇAZETTE
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ÁNY GOOD, ÄOC?
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> É LIKE IT.  ÉT HAS A LOT OF FEATURES THAT HELP DIAGNOSE PROBS
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÆOR INSTANCE....
<Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ, É LIKE THE ÍONITOR IN THAT CARTRIDGE. (×ARP ÓPEED). ELSE
É'D TOSS IT, BUT TO SHUT DOWN A SWAP CART'S EACH TIME...ÄO YOU KNOW A GOOD
EXPANDER...?
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÓHOW WHAT TRACK IS REALLY BEING READ VICE WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
ÁLSO INCLUDES BETWEEN TRACK READABILITY AND OF COURSE SPEED, ETC.  ÐLUS IT CAN
BE STOPPED AND RESTARTED OR LEFT FUNING CONTINUOUSLY.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> Á.Ò. ÙOU MEAN A CARTRIDGE EXPANDER TO SHUT THE CARTRIDGE OFF
AND ON?
<Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÙES, ÂILL, ×ITHOUT POWERING OFF THE 128.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÈMM.  É DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE A HOT IDEA NOT TO
POWER OFF.  ÔHE EXPANDER WOULD SAVE WEAR & TEAR ON THE CARTRIDGE PORT, THO.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÓHOULDN'T HURT IT TO SHUT IT OFF WITH THE EXPANDER.  ÔHE MAIN
PROBLEM  COMES WITH SPIKES ON THE LINE FROM PULLING THE CART W/POWER ON.
<Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÂUT THERE MUST BE AN ADDRESS TO PEEK TO FIND IF THE CARTRIDGE HAS
CHANGED (FROM THE (CBM64) DAYS.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÂEATS ME, SOMEBODY ELSE?   (NOT 128 USER)   :)
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> É'M NOT A 128 USER, EITHER.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ×ELL, LET ME LOOK FOR MY ÁPROSPAND BOOK.
<Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÉT USED TO BE AT ADDRESS 32768....
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> HMMM.  É WONDER IF IT'S IN THE ÃOMPLETE ÃOMMODORE
ÉNNER ÓPACE ÁNTHOLOGY???  ÌOOKING.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÏÈ, ÏÈ!  ÔED'S ON A DATA HUNT AGAIN!
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÁGAIN?  ×HAT YOU MEAN, ÄOC?  ÁÌ×ÁÙÓ ON A DATA HUNT.
<Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ, ÉF ONLY HE COULD GIVE ME TO NAMES OF THE ÄATA-ÈUNT
PUBS...
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÈÅÈÅÈÅ
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÕH, É HATE TO DISILLUSION YOU, Á.Ò., BUT É HUNT MY
DATA IN THE ÌADY'S ÌOCKER ÒOOM.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ×ELL, ONE BOOK IS SCRATCHED.....STILL LOOKING, THOUGH..ÏË,
THE POKE AND PEEK FOR DETECTING THE CARTRIDGE ELUDES ME, AT THE MOMENT.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÎO DICE.  ÄOESN'T COVER THE 128!  ×ONDER IF THEY HAVE
A NEW EDITION OUT.
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÔHANKS, ÂILL, MAYBE IT'LL COME UP FROM SOMEWHERE.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÔRY POSTING THE PROBLEM ON THE ÂULLETIN ÂOARD.  ÉT
MIGHT DRAW SOMETHING THERE.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ÂARB, DO YOU KNOW THE PEEK AND POKE FOR DETECTING A
CARTRIDGE?
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÓAY, ÆYR, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PROGRAMMING
WITH REGARD TO THE ÆASTLOAD CARTRIDGE?  ÓOMEONE ON THE ÂOARD IS LOOKING FOR
HELP ON THAT.
<[ÂARB.  ÈI TO] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ÉF A CARTRIDGE IS PRESENT, IT SHOULD SHOW AT $8000
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÙES, ÂUT THAT ÍONITOR IS THE PITS.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> É WAS TRYING TO FIND MY DOCS ON THAT
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ×OW, É ASKED THE RIGHT PERSON!!
<[ÂARB.  ÈI TO] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ÙOU'D LOOK FOR THE INITIALS, "ÃÂÍ" IN BOTH THE Ã128
AND THE Ã64 TO IDENTIFY A CARTRIDGE.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÔHERE'S A SYS TO SHUT DOWN THE CART.
<[ÂARB.  ÈI TO] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ×HICH CART ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ×ÁÒÐ.
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÔED, ÓMON.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÎEVER TRIED TO USE IT, MYSELF.  ÔHAT BAD, HUH?  É
THINK THE SOUL WAS TRYING TO TURN IT OFF & ON, BUT MY MEMORY IS NOT PERFECT.
ÁS É RECALL, THE SYS COMMANDS IN THE INSTRUCTIONS MAY NOT BE CORRECT.
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÔYPE "!"  ,NOT THE PARENTHESIS, JUST ÅXCLAMATION MARKS.
<[ÂARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ÔHE ID FOR A Ã64 CART STARTS AT 32772. ÌOOK FOR 195,194
<[ÂARB.  ÈI TO] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> Y
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> 195,194,205,56,48  ARE THE VALUES EXPECTED.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ÂÔ×, ÂARB IS FROM THE ÑUICK ÂROWN ÂOX, THE BATTERY BACKED RAM
CARTRIDGE.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ×ELCOME, ÂARB.  ÂARB WILL BE IN CONFERENCE THIS ×ED. NIGHT.
<[BARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ÄON'T JUDGE THE CARTRIDGE BY THE TYPIST.  ÔHIS STUFF IS HARDER
THAN É THOUGHT.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É FORGOT ABOUT THE CONF, BEEN WORKING HARD ON MY ÂÂÓ
SOFTWARE, AND NOTICED THE TIME.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÓHAME, ÓHAME!  :)
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÉTS BEEN GOING VERY WELL THE PAST FEW DAYS, A FEW MORE
PROBLEMS AND É MAY BE RUNNING IT.  ÉTS UNIQUE AND FAST.  ÏNLY PROBLEM, IT CAME
FROM ÍAINFRAME AND É HAVEN'T FOUND THE COMMAND SET.  ÉT DOES SEEM TO WORK,
THOUGH
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ÈAS ANYONE USED THE QUIET STOP FOR THE 41 HEAD RATTLES??
<[ÔED] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> É HAD ONE INSTALLED, ÂILL.  ÉT'S OK.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÈAVEN'T TRIED IT MYSELF.
<[BARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ÓINCE THE SUBJECT IS 1541, HAS ANYONE TRIED ÊIFFYDOS?  ÏN THE
1571 IT'S GREAT.
<[ÔED] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> É TRIED ÊIFFYDOS ON 1541 & BRIEFLY ON 1581.
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> YES. BUT ARE YOU REALLY SURE YOU ARE THERE(TRK).
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ×HAT DID YOU THINK OF IT ÔED?
<[ÔED] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÉTS FINE ON THE 1541.  ×ORKS WITH MOST STUFF.  1581 IT SPEEDS
THINGS UP ÂÕÔ IT ÆÅÕÄÓ WITH ÂÏÔÈ MAJOR UTILITIES FOR THE 1581: ÓUPER 81 AND
ÔOOLKIT 1581.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÈOW INCONVENIENT!
<[ÔED] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÉF YOU WANT THE UTILITIES, YOU NEED TWO 1581S.  ÏNE TO USE
WITH THEM & ONE TO USE WITH ÊIFFY. ÎO FANCY MONITORS BUILT IN OR SAVE THE
SCREEN UTILITIES LIKE SOME CARTRIDGES.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> É HAVE ÊIFFY ON MY '41 AND ITS GREAT!
<[BARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> É WOULDN'T THINK CONFLICT WITH SOFTWARE A PROBLEM..YOU CAN
TURN IT OFF EASILY.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÔHAT WORKS FOR MOST THINGS, BUT NOT FOR THE 1581.  É
TRIED.  ÉT DIDN'T WORK WITH THE ÔOOLKIT 1581, ÂARB.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ON THE 41, ÄOC?   ×ITH THE SWITCHES, IT TURNS OFF COMPLETELY!
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÔHAT COULD WORK REAL WELL!
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> É AGREE WITH ÔED ON THE '81 WITH THE ÊIFFY.  ÎO LARGE SPEED
INCREASE.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> É CAN'T FIND MY SPEED FIGURES FOR THE 1541,  ÉTS HERE
SOMEWHERE. <GLARING AT TAX FORMS & OTHER MESS.>  ÏNE ODD THING ABOUT THE ÊIFF.
ÃERTAIN SAVES BY ÊIFFY OR WITH OTHER CARTRDIGES SAY Æ/Ì OR SOME OF THE QUICK
FILE COPIERS MAY RESULT IN ÓÌÏ×ÅÒ LOADS,NOT AS SLOWER THAN NAKED 1541, BUT
SLOWER THAN THOSE FILES LOADED AGAIN BY THEIR NATIVE SAVING CARTRIDGE OR WHAT
HAVE YOU.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÄON'T REMIND ME, ÔED!
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1>  ×ILL ÊIFFY INTERFERE WITH THE MODEM?
<[ÔED] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÊIFFY IS A CHIP, DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH MODEMS & HASN'T
FOUGHT WITH ANY TERM SOFTWARE TO SPEAK OF.
<ÇÁÙÌÅ.Á> <CAN É ASK A QUESTION ABOUT HTE '81?>
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÇO AHEAD ÇAYLE, MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ANSWER THO.
<ÇÁÙÌÅ.Á> IS THERE A WAY TO CHANGE THE DATA STORED IN THE DISK VERSION NUMBER
IN THE DIR?
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÄISK DOCTOR PROG WON'T DO IT?
<ÇÁÙÌÅ.Á> AHAHAHAHAHAHA.... YOU'RE ASKING A NON-HARDWARE TYPE PERSON... SHOULD
A Ã128 DISK DOC DO IT?
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ÎOT SURE, ÇAYLE.
<ÇÁÙÌÅ.Á> É KNOW YOU CAN DO IT ON THE 1541... É'VE DONE THAT...USING A SIMPLE
PROGRAM, WHICH É CAN'T FIND TO SAVE MYLIFE.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É CHECKED ON ÄOLPHIN ÄÏÓ, AND IR WON'T WORK IN CONJUNCTION
WITH A MODEM, É WROTE THE COMPANY IN ÓOUTH ÁUSTRALIA.  ÉF IT WEREN'T FOR THAT,
É WOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT. ÄOES ÊIFFY USE THE USER-PORT?
<[ÔED] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÊIFFY WILL WORK WITH A MODEM.  ÒAPIDOS WON'T.  ÊIFFY IS AN
INSTALL A CHIP IN THE DRIVES & COMPUTER TO BE ACCELLERATED SYSTEM.  ÉT DOESN'T
OCCUPY THE USERPORT.
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÈOW MANY STEPS OUT, WITHOUT ASCERTAINING THE PRESENT POSITION,
WILL DO?
<[BARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ÇAYLE, DO YOU MEAN CHANGE THE ID NUMBER ON THE DISK DIRECTORY?
<ÇÁÙÌÅ.Á> ÂARB, YEAH, THAT ÁÎÄ THE DOS VERSION NUMBER STORED IN THE NEXT 2
FIELDS
<ÇÁÙÌÅ.Á> LIKE ITS STORED  "ÄÉÓË ÎÁÍÅ" ÉÄ 3Ä  ON A '81
<[BARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ÔHERE ARE TERRIFIC DISK DOCTORS FOR THE 128.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÂETTER WATCH OUT ON CHANGING THE ÄÏÓ VERSION NUMBER...
<ÇÁÙÌÅ.Á> GUESS É'LL GO PLAY BY TRIAL AND ERROR
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É USE ÄUP AS A DISK DOCTOR, IT OUTPUTS IN A ÍONITOR
FORMAT, WHICH HELPS ME.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÏN THE '41 THAT CAN MAKE THE WHOLE DISK UNWRITABLE
<ÇÁÙÌÅ.Á> DONT CARE TO WRITE TO THE DISK ONCE É DO IT...
<[BARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> É SUSPECT THAT YOU WONT BE ABLE TO DO MORE THAN A COSMETIC
CHANGE.
<ÇÁÙÌÅ.Á> WELP, É'M GONNA TRY!  ÔHANKS, AND GOODNIGHT!
<[BARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ÔHE ID IS USED THROUGHOUT THE DISK IN THE HEADER BLOCKS AND
REMAINS UNTIL YOU REFORMAT THE DISK.
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÇAYLE, ÏN ÙOUR ÄRIVE, THAT ×OULD BE ÔHRILL AND ÔERROR, ÎOT
TRIAL AND ERROR.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÄOES ÊIFFY SUPPORT 40 TRKS?
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÎO IT DOESN'T.  É THINK YOU'RE THINKING OF THE HIGH
END VERSION OF THE ÒAPIDOS SYSTEM.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÄOLPHIN DOES.  ÉT HAS A LOT OF FEATURES ABOUT IT É LIKED,
JUST HAVEN'T FOUND 1 YET WHICH É LIKED. ÊIFFY DOES SOUND GOOD, THOUGH.
<[BARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ÓTEVE, WHICH DOCTOR OUTPUTS A MONITOR FORMAT.  É MISSED THAT?
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÔHE DOCTOR IS CALLED ÄUP, ITS VERY SIMPLE MONITOR, YOU
CHANGE IT LIKE CHANGING MEMORY, BUT YOU CAN USE ÁÓÃÉÉ ÍÏÄÅ, & TYPE TEXT TO THE
SECTOR.
<[BARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> ÔHANKS ÓTEVE.  ÉF YOU LIKE A NEAT MONITOR, YOU MIGHT WANT TO
TRY THE ON THAT GOES WITH ÊIFFY.  ÉT READS AND WRITES DISK BLOCKS ALONG WITH
EVERYTHING ELSE.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1>  É USE ÈESMON, AND HAVEN'T FOUND ANY EQUAL IN ÐÄ, THAT
ACTUALLY WORKS AND EVEN MANY COMMERCIAL.É LIKE USING THE ÃÒÓÒ TO SCROLL MEMORY
OUTPUT AND DISSASSEMBLIES AND THE ×ÁÌË FEATURE BUT WON'T OPERATE UNDER ÒÏÍ.
ÔHE PROBLEM, MY ÂÂÓ USES 3Ë ÍÌ FILE UNDER ÂASIC.  É HAVE TO RE-ASSEMBLE IT IN
FREE ÒAM TO TEST IT OR ×ALK THE CODE.  É DON'T WORRY ABOUT ÐÓ ANY MORE, RUNNING
A 3Á SUPPLY, É ADDED LOTS OF EXTRA GOODIES AND HAVE MORE IN PLANNING WHICH 7.5
WATT ÐÓ'S MAY NOT LIKE.
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÂILL:STILL WORKING ON BAD PRINTER: TRIED THE LITHIUM: NO GO.
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ÇADS, THEN THE HEAD MIGHT BE DAMAGED!
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ×HAT'S WRONG W/THE PRINTER ÁË?
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> É SUSPECT POWER SUPPLY ELECTROLYTIC LEAKING.×ILL GO IN AND SEE...
TOMORROW!
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÄÏÃ: ÈAVE A HEAD SEEKING BACK AND FORTH FOR 2 MINS BEFORE SETTLING.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÕNGOOD!
<[ÂILL] Ã128.ÃÐÍ> ÉS IT STILL SLURRING, ÁË?
<[ÔED] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ×HAT KIND OF PRINTER?
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÇOING BACK TO THE ÂÕÍÐ, WHICH VALUE GUARANTEES TRACK 1?
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÄO YOU THINK CHIP, ÄOC?: STAR 10X  TYPE.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÄOES IT EVENTUALLY SETTLE AND THEN WORK RIGHT ÁË?
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÙES, BUT TAKES LONGER EACH TIME.
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÄOC: FOUND ONE ELECTRO QUITE WARM...
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÁË, MIGHT BE A CHIP, BUT THAT'S NOT MY FIRST CHOICE
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> FOUND ONE ELECTROLYTIC QUITE WARM...
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> É MIGHT JUST PUT IN A NEW ONE.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> É'D ALSO LOOK FOR ANOTHER PROBLEM. ÒUMAGING MADLY FOR SOME DOCS.
<[ÔED] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÄOC ON A ÄATA ÈUNT ÁGAIN!
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÇRIN!
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> (USUALLY THE HEAD OF THE PRINTER SNAPS OUT EASILY WITH TWO
TOGGLE LATCHES. ÉF IT DOES, CONSIDER WD40 OR CARBURETOR CLEANER.
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ×HEN É DISTURB THE CIRCUIT IN ANY WAY: DIFFERENT OUTLET, ETC,
PRINTER OFTEN SETTLES DOWN. ÓO É THINK POWER SUPPLY.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É USED ×Ä-40 TO EXTEND A PRINTER RIBBON'S LIFE, IT
RE-DISTRIBUTES THE INK, WHEN É'M TOO CHEEP TO BY A NEW ONE.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÂUT WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE STAYING POWER OF THE INK???
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÉT ALSO EXTENDS THE LIFE OF THE PINS IN THE HEAD.
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÒILEY: DID THAT WD 40: NO GO.

<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÔHEN GO FOR CARBUERATOR CLEANER, FOLLOWED BY ×Ä40.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÉT WORKS WELL, AFTER ABOUT 10-15 PAGES, THOUGH, IT DIES TO
THE PREVIOUS CONDITION OR WORSE.
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> (×HY NOT A SIMPLE LITTLE RADAR PROBLEM??)
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÁË, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE HEAD MOVEMENT MECH IS OUT OF
ALIGNMENT?
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÒADAR WAS EASIER... WHEN É WAS YOUNGER!!
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÍY PRINTEAD HAMMARS DON'T LINE UP, É THINK MY GUIDES ARE
WORN.
<[BARB] ÐÒÅÓÓ10> É FIND MY PRINTER HEAD BOUNCING AROUND WHEN É'M USING WRONG
COMMANDS...ÉT TRIES TO DO GRAPHICS.
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÓEEM SOME INTERFACES HAVE THE GRAPHIC PROBLEM, ÂARB.
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÄOC: ÄON'T THINK SO, HOW WOULD THAT SHOW?
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÏN POWER UP, THE PRINTER TRIES A MASTER CLEAR, AND TRIES TO SYNC
HEAD POSITION..
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÓTEVE, ÕSE THE STANDBY MODE (TO ALLOW A COOL DOWN), THEN SAVE
THE PENNIES TO REPLACE.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÉF THE HEAD MECH HAS MOVED A LITTLE BIT, IT HITS THE STOP AND
WON'T SYNC.  ÍOST PRINTERS WILL TRY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIMES, THEN GIVE UP
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÔHAT DOESN'T WORK, ITS ONLY 4 1/2 YRS OLD, WITH HEAVY USE.
É ADDED UP ALL MY RIBBONS AND CAME UP WITH LIKE 50 MILL CHARACTERS BASED ON
THE RIBBON LIFE.
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÄOC: ÓUPPOSE É PUT SCOPE ON POWER SUPPLY AND TURN ON PRINTER. ÍAKE
SENCE?
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÙES, ÁË, ÓET IT FOR AC COUPLING AND LOOK FOR RIPPLE
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÄOC: ×ON'T HOLD YOU. ×ILL LET YOU KNOW OUTCOME...
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É DON'T KNOW WHEN THE MANFCTR CONSIDERS A RIBBON WORN OUT.
ÂUT MINE ARE 2 ÍILLION.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÏË ÁK
<Á.Ë.ÑÕÉÎÎ> ÒIPPLE WILL DO IT.
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> Á. Ë. "ÁS LONG AS YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE SUPPLY WILL NOT
MAINTAIN ITS RATED VOLTAGE AS THE PRINTER PRINTS.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÒIPPLE IN A LOGIC CIRCUIT, NEAT.  É HAD IT IN AN ÁMP ONCE.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÎOTHING LIKE IT FOR WEIRD PROBS
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÇUESS US TECHIES ARE A SMALL GROUP! :)
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> WELL, THE SMALL GROUP HAS BEEN MOST ACTIVE TONIGHT!
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ×E TRY!  <ÇRIN>
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> Á RIPPLE?  ÓOUNDS LIKE BATHWATER.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ×ORKS AS WELL ON TRON GEAR, TOO!
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÉT DID OSCILLATE AT 60ÈZ SLIGHTLY, BUT IT HAD A PROB WITH
HIGHER FREQS, LIKE TOO MUCH FEEDBACK.
<[FYR] Á.ÒÉÌÅÙ> ÓTEVE, ÔHERE SHOULD NOT BE A MAJOR DEVIATION ON THE +5, BUT THE
36 OR 40 VOLT SUPPLY WILL NOT HOLD ON AN EVEN RATING.  (BY A LONG SHOT)
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É'M HAVING NO PRINT PROBS, BUT THE DOTS WON'T LINE UP ON A
PAGE, LIKE Ô OR Ì'S LOOK LIKE THE OCEAN WAVES SIDEWAYS.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÉTS GETTING LESS AND LESS READABLE, AS É USE IT.  É HAVE A
HABIT OF PUSHING 10-15 PAGES AT A SHOT, WITH A LONG IDLE TIME.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÓTEVE, THERE SHOULD (HOPEFULLY BE A TIMING ADJUSTMENT FOR THAT.
ÓTEVE, HOW MANY PINS OUT OF ALIGNMENT?
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÉTS IN 1 LETTER, HOW CAN THIS BE LINED UP?  É UNDERSTAND
IF FROM 2 ADJACENT TOP/BOTTOM LETTERS.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÊUST AN OCCASIONAL PROB?
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÔHEY ALL SEEM TO BE, ONE MAY BE SLIGHTLY LEFT, THE NEXT
LOWER, SLIGHTLY RIGHT, LEFT, THEN RIGHT.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÔHE WHOLE LETTER OR JUST ONE OR TWO DOTS?
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÉT'S BEEN CONSISTANT, NO IMPROVEMENT, BUT A SLIGHT
WORSENING OVER TIME, IT WENT FROM GOOD TO BAD VERY QUICKLY, AND SLOWLY
WORSENED.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÌET ME BE SURE WE'RE TALKING ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH... DOT MATRIX
OR DAISY?
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÉTS THE WHOLE LETTER.  É SEND 15 PAGES OF 17.1ÃÐÉ, IN
NORMAL MODE, AND ITS STILL LEGIBLE, IF THAT SAYS ANYTHING, BUT, THEY DON'T
SMOOTH ANYMORE.  ÎÌÑ 10ÃÐÉ IS EVEN ROSE.  ÉT'S DOT MATRIX.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÐRINT HEAD MOVEMENT MECH IS STICKING.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É THOUGHT THE HEAD HAD 9 PINS IN A STRAIGHT VERTICAL LINE.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÙES, BUT IF THE HEAD STICKS SLIGHTLY, THE CHARACTER IS PRINTED
OUT OF POSITION.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÔHE LETTERS WHICH HAVE LONG STRAIGHT STEMS LIKE Ô, Ì, Ê,
LOOK WAVY.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÏÈ ÏK
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÔHEN É WAS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.  ÅACH PIN IS FIRED THROUGH AN
INDIVIDUAL TIMING CIRCUIT TO MAKE UP FOR COMPONENT DIFFERENCES.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÂACK TO THE BOOKS...LOOKING
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÉTS HARD TO SAY WHAT DOT, SINCE DRAFT MODE FILLS IN THE
SPACES VERY WELL, AND ÎÌÑ LOOKS BETTER THAN MANY 24 PIN PRINTERS. É'M BEGINNING
TO THINK SOME 24 PIN SYSTEMS USE 9 PIN PORTED-OVER CHR SETS.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É NOTICED THE CHANGE, DURING THE MONTH É HAD MAJOR
PROBLEMS WITH MY ÍÌ, É SENT 15 PAGES MANY TIMES A DAY, TO THE PRINTER, USED A
BOX OF 1000 SHEETS UP IN A MONTH AND A HALF.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ×ELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE A PRINT HEAD OR ADJUSTMENT PROBLEM.  É WAS
JUST LOOKING AT MY EPSON MANUAL AND THERE IS ONLY ONE ADJUSTMENT FOR HEAD
TIMING.  ÔHAT MEANS THAT THE HEAD ITSELF HAS TO BE PRETTY CLOSE SPECS.  ÙOU SAY
YOU'VE BEEN USING ×Ä-40 ON THE RIBBONS?
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É'VE ONLY USED THAT A FEW TIMES, WHEN É NEED TO USE THE
RIBBON, AND DON'T HAVE THE $10 JUST LYING AROUND.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÄID THE PROBLEM START BEFORE OR AFTER THE FIRST TIME YOU TRIED
IT?
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÉT HAPPENED LONG AFTER, É REMEMBER USING IT LAST ABOUT 2
YRS AGO.  É WALKED INTO ÔARGET ONE DAY, & LOOKED ON THEIR BARGAIN TABLE, THEY
HAD 4 NEW ÏKI RIBBONS MARKED $3, SO É GOT THEM ALL, STILL HAVE 2 LEFT.  ÏËÉ ARE
GOOD RIBBONS, THEY LAST 3-6 MO'S OR MORE, THE WAY É USE IT.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÏNE PROBLEM WITH ×Ä-40.  ÉT DRIES LEAVING A SILICON COATING. ÎOW,
IF IT MANAGED TO DRAG SOME INK INTO THE PRINT HEAD (SEEPAGE), THE CARBON
PARTICLES IN THE INK, COUPLED WITH THE SILICONE COATING MIGHT BE JAMMING EVERY-
THING.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É CALLED ÏKI AND  THEY SAID THE PRINTHEAD WAS BAD.  É
DIDN'T BELIEVE THEM SO É RAN AN OUTPUT BY ONE OF OUR CLONE DEALERS, AND HE
SAID THE PRINT-GUIDES WERE WORN, AND THE HAMMERS ARE MISSALIGNED, BUT FIRING.
É GOT GOOD OUTPUT OTHER THAN WAVY TEXT.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ×ELL, THE WAVY TEXT IS A GOOD SIGN THE PINS ARE HAVING TROUBLE.
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÃAN IT BE CLEANED?
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÙOU MIGHT TRY TYPEWRITER CLEANER.  ÉT DISSOLVES THE INK.  ÙOU'D
REALLY HAVE TO FLUSH IT THOUGH.  ÉT COULD BE CLOGGED BACK WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE
IT.  ÉF THAT DOESN'T WORK, É'M AFRAID YOU'RE STUCK WITH REPLACING THE PRINTHEAD
<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> É REMOVED THE HEAD AFTER THIS HAPPENED, AND THE PINS
APPEARED SHINY CLEAN, É WAS HOPING FOR A PAPER FIBER OR DIRT.  ÔHE TOP OF HEAD
APPEARED TO BE GROOVED TO ONE SIDE, WHILE THE BOTTOM 2 PINS WERE COMPLETELY
ROUNDED.
<[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÈOW BIG A HOLE IN ONE'S BUDGET IS THAT LIKELY TO MAKE?
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÒUMMAGING

<[ÓTEVE] Ó.ÐÒÏÃÔÏÒ1> ÏKI SAYS $90.  É CHECKED FOR A DEAD ÏKI, SINCE MOST ÏKI
HEADS ARE THE SAME.  ÄEAD ONES COST AS MUCH AS THE HEAD, AND THE HEAD COULD BE
BAD ON IT TOO.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÔHAT'S ABOUT THE PRICE É'VE FOUND TOO.  ×ELL TRY THE HEAD SOAK,
FIRST & LET ME KNOW HOW IT COMES OUT.
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÂÔ× ÔED, THE ORIGINAL DRIVE MECH FOR THE 1541 IS MADE BY ÁÌÐÓ
<[ÔED] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ>  ÔHAT'S THE LIGHT COLORED ONE WITH THE SPRING CLOSURE, NOT
THE DARK TAN WITH SPRING CLOSURE?
<ÄÉÇÉÔÁÌ.ÄÏÃ> ÒIGHT ÔED.
[ÔED, ÓYSOP] ÄÏ-ÒÁÅ-ÍÉ> ÉT'S MIDNIGHT & AFTER THE TIME ALL GOOD SYSOPS IN ÅÓÔ
ZONES HAVE TO GO TO BED.  ÁLSO, IT'S TIME FOR THIS CONFERENCE TO END.  ÇOOD
NIGHT ALL.  (ÔHAT WILL BE ALL & THANKS, ÄR. ×ATSON!)
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