GE Mail Item 5974914 96/08/04 01:02 From: BRAIN@CONCH.AA.MSEN.COM@INET# Internet Gateway To: G.NOGGLE Gregory C. Noggle Sub: MAILNEWS: comp.sys.cbm Digest From brain@conch.aa.msen.com Sun Aug 4 05:02:56 1996 Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com (for inet#) ( p822/1.32 ) ; Sun, 4 Aug 96 05:11:52 UTC 0000 Received: from rock101.genie.net (genie.com) by relay1.geis.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA113304976; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 05:02:56 GMT Return-Path: Received: from conch.aa.msen.com (brain@conch.aa.msen.com [148.59.6.20]) by rock101.genie.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA01314 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 05:02:59 GMT Received: (from brain@localhost) by conch.aa.msen.com (8.7.4/8.6.12) id BAA05346 for g.noggle@genie.com; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 01:02:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Brain Message-Id: <199608040502.BAA05346@conch.aa.msen.com> Subject: MAILNEWS: comp.sys.cbm Digest for 1996-08-04 To: g.noggle@genie.geis.com Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 01:02:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit #! rnews 755 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.asu.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!howland.reston.a ns.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl. net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!n ws.us.net!usenet From: mhall59@mail.us.net (Michael W. Hall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Wanted 128D Date: 3 Aug 1996 01:01:59 GMT Organization: US Net, Incorporated Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4tu8e7$nfq@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host136.laurel.us.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I am looking for a C128D system. Must work fine. Would like original boxes and manuals if possible. mhall59@us.net #! rnews 696 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink. n et!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net! news.us.net!usenet From: mhall59@mail.us.net (Michael W. Hall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Serial Port Adapter wanted Date: 3 Aug 1996 01:05:37 GMT Organization: US Net, Incorporated Lines: 4 Message-ID: <4tu8l1$ni7@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host136.laurel.us.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (beta 2) Rs232 adapter wanted that will support 14.4 or 28.8 k modem on a c128. mhall59@us.net #! rnews 2145 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink. n et!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net! news.us.net!usenet From: mhall59@mail.us.net (Michael W. Hall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: OVER 30000 C64 PROGRAMS!!! Date: 3 Aug 1996 01:11:50 GMT Organization: US Net, Incorporated Lines: 42 Message-ID: <4tu90m$ni7@news.us.net> References: <4tlt0b$4br@rubens.telebyte.nl> <4tqart$kk1@login.freenet.columbus. oh.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: host136.laurel.us.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (beta 2) In article <4tqart$kk1@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us>, hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us says... -> ->gg@telebyte.nl wrote: ->: For all Commodore-64 freaks.... -> ->: Remember those CLASSIC games ? -> ->: Aztec Challenge, Pharao's Curse, Gyruss, Buck Rogers, Pole Position, ->: Booga Boo, Blue Max, Blue Max 2001, Congo Bongo, Crystal Castles, ->: Thing on a Spring, River Raid, Pitfall, Crazy Comets, Commando, ->: Lazy Jones, Burnin'Rubber, Zaxxon, Snokie, Candy Bandits, Moon -Buggy, ->: Forbidden Forest, Flip and Flop, Bristles, Popeye, Pengo, Mr Do, -> ->snip -> ->: All compiled on one CD-ROM. -> ->: The C64-CD-ROM-'96 contains 5650 C-64 disks.... over 30.000 -programs, ->: run them on a C64-emulator, or run them on your C64 again. -> ->: C64-Emulators for IBM-PC (486 or higher) and Amiga are included ->: on the CD-Rom. -> ->: This CD-ROM contains the most complete C64-collection ever! ->: More than 650Mb of C64 software on one little disc. -> ->: If you are a real C64 freak, order !now! > >Are you selling them legally? Or are you another pirate out there >depriving programmers and software producers their rightful earnings? > >--Harold Are you seroius?!?!?!? Who is being deprived here. No programmer is collecting money on any C= software. Anything being sold is probably used anyway. If anyone out there is still looking for their earnings from original copies of River Raid, they are going to be poor for a long time. #! rnews 949 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!newsfeeder.sdsu.edu! newspump.sol.net!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!mugca.cc. monash.edu.au!not-for-mail From: mspinks@mugca.cc.monash.edu.au (Matthew Spinks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Version of DOS in a 1541? Date: 3 Aug 1996 11:33:33 +1000 Organization: Monash University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4tua9d$14u@mugca.cc.monash.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: mugca.cc.monash.edu.au X-NNTP-Posting-User: mspinks X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #11 Hi All, Can someone tell me what the standard version of DOS in an old-style 1541 disk drive is? Cheers, - Matthew. -- Matthew Spinks | 'It is a truth universally acknowledged that a PhD grad. slave | single man in possession of a good fortune must Computer Science | be in want of a wife.' Monash University | Churchill, Victoria | - Jane Austen, 'Pride and Prejudice' Australia | #! rnews 1528 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.cais.net!news.mathworks.com!zombie.ncsc.mil!newsgate.duke.ed u!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!ixnews1.ix.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!ix.netcom. com!jamescha From: jamesch@ix.netcom.com (ChrisC) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: 1571 problems Date: Sat, 03 Aug 96 03:28:51 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4tugu7$93k@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: orl-fl7-25.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Aug 02 10:27:03 PM CDT 1996 X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 In article , Dennis Brew wrote: >I have a 1571 disk drive that has a problem going into 1571 mode and once >it's in 1571 mode it has a hard time when you directory a disk. > >In the 1541 mode it is fine. > >When it does directory it does ok but then I change the disk it has a >hard time again. > >Can anybody tell me whatthe problem might be? > >I was wondering if it could be an IC ship, and what one it might be? > >PLEASE HELP > >Thanks > >dennis@efn.org > Sounds to me like you have one of the original 1571's. They had a problem with initializing the second side of the disk. If I inserted a 1541 formatted disk, it would take about a minute to initialize. Also saving a file to the second side would take forever. The problem is as easy to solve as getting a replacement ROM for it. #! rnews 651 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet.etri.re. kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.cais.net!news.mathworks.com!tank.n ews.pipex.net!pipex!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net! uknet!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!usenet From: arendt@usa.pipeline.com(mike arendt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: help docs Date: 3 Aug 1996 08:38:36 GMT Organization: Pipeline Lines: 3 Message-ID: <4tv36c$poa@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.231.2 X-PipeUser: arendt X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (mike arendt) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 does anyone have the docs to SENTINEL WORLD #! rnews 560 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!delphi.com !usenet From: joy daidola Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS:::command center 128 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 96 00:26:34 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1e.delphi.com Hi! I have a very nice 128 command center that I'd like to sell..if you're interested please email me.. #! rnews 892 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!iglou!iglou2!doom From: doom@iglou2.iglou.com (Joseph Snider) Subject: C64 Software wanted.. X-Nntp-Posting-Host: iglou2 Message-ID: Sender: news@iglou.com (News Administrator) Organization: IgLou Internet Services (1-800-436-4456) Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 04:01:42 GMT Lines: 11 If anyone has any disk cases laying around.. (In your closet, or basement collecting dust), that are full of c64 or c128 software please leave me some mail.. Ill gladly give you some $$ to get them to me.. Or I would be interested in some plain old swapping of disk if anyone is interested in that.. Theres *ALOT* of c64 titles I would like to fool around with again... Leave email to "doom@iglou.com" #! rnews 2803 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infinet.com!news From: "Michael Bendure" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: OVER 30000 C64 PROGRAMS!!! Date: 3 Aug 1996 04:35:45 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 49 Message-ID: <01bb80f5$8d5632c0$06f667ce@mbendure.infinet.com> References: <4tlt0b$4br@rubens.telebyte.nl> <4tqart$kk1@login.freenet.columbus. oh.us> <4tu90m$ni7@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nwk-p006.infinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1141 In article <4tqart$kk1@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us>, hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us says... > >Are you selling them legally? Or are you another pirate out there > >depriving programmers and software producers their rightful earnings? Hit that nail on the head.. Michael W. Hall wrote in article <4tu90m$ni7@news.us.net>... > Are you seroius?!?!?!? Who is being deprived here. No programmer is > collecting money on any C= software. I find this ludicrous remark. You mean to tell me, there isn't one Commodore programmer out there that is making money on their product? Hmm, kinda shoot the whole idea doesn't it? I guess all those programs that Software Support, CMD and several other companies out there that still support the 64 are simply pocketing the money? I seem to have made a small bit of money on my software. I know Nick Rossi has made a couple bucks, as has Madman Software and several others. Hell, even Rod Gasson has made a bit on his sharware QWKRR128, course I didn't see that listed and its legally distributed, but not for a price so you folks can make a profit. > Anything being sold is probably used anyway. If anyone out there is > still looking for their earnings from original copies of River Raid, > they are going to be poor for a long time. Yeah, especially with people like you making a profit from their hard work and not paying them a dime. How you folks can get away with selling a product that contains several existing and still legally binding copyrights, is beyond me. I would think selling this overseas would be a federal offense, but then again, I'm no lawyer. Isn't the spa, some kind of copyright police or something? I thought I heard something about that a while back. Wonder if they've seen this one.. Hmmm -- C-Net 64 DS2 Software WWW: http://www.infinet.com/~mbendure 92 Lee Ave Suite N3 Email: mbendure@infinet.com Newark, Ohio 43055 IRC: #C-Net on Efnet (614)/788-8568 CommNet: Mitron @ Cygnus X-1 Cygnus X-1 BBS (614)/522-6563 > > #! rnews 673 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!delphi.com !usenet From: joy daidola Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS::super grafix jr. & stuff Date: Sat, 3 Aug 96 00:31:59 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1e.delphi.com Hi! have a great super grafix jr, with manuel for sale...$15.+...also 2 anim- ation stations $10.+ each...super sketch with software and manuel $10.+ ...geos 64, complete $15.+...e-mail me if interested...thanks #! rnews 1994 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infinet.com!news From: "Michael Bendure" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: CMD Hard Drive replacement Date: 3 Aug 1996 04:50:56 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 36 Message-ID: <01bb80f7$ad3798c0$06f667ce@mbendure.infinet.com> References: <01bb7f35$3f24ef40$b52060cc@amazon.channel1.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nwk-p006.infinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1141 Paul MacArthur wrote in article <01bb7f35$3f24ef40$b52060cc@amazon.channel1.com>... > Has anyone replaced the hard drive in a CMD hard drive? I have, more than once. :) > I have a 20 meg CMD hard drive and would like to upgrade the megs to about > 100 megs. I went from 52 to 105. > It seems I have a selection of these drives to buy > > 3.5 Quantum This is the one I got. > I have replaced an IDE hard drive before, is it similiar to this and what > brand name of drive would you recommend that I purchase? I've had my Quantum 105 Meg now for about 4 years without a problem. For the CMD, its real simple. Take the casing apart, unscrew the old HD, unplug it, then plug in the new one, screw it down, put the case back together and follow the steps in the CMD HD for installing the DOS and partitioning your new HD. Thats all there is to it. I would suggest a quick inspection of the mother board of the controller. Specifically look at the connector where the Power connector plugs into the mother board on the bottom side. Your looking for cold solder joints. If there are no cold solder joints, simply put everything back together with the new drive and run the CMD HD Utilities for DOS setup and partitioning. If you do find cold solder joints, now would be a good time to fix it. :) #! rnews 1184 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!howland. reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!munnari.OZ.AU!metro!metro! news From: Gurce Isikyildiz Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Erm, digitising sound on c64 Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 16:08:18 +1100 Organization: Information Services, The University of Sydney, NSW, Australia Lines: 12 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3202DEC2.6E16@extro.ucc.su.oz.au> References: <3201FA08.7759@extro.ucc.su.oz.au> <1996Aug2.140013@nyssa.swt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-a-188.mp.usyd.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win95; I) Bo wrote: > There is a great little project available out there on the net called > "Zounds!" for the Commodore 128. It digitizes sound right off a microphone, > or a cd player, or whatever. Which probably would've been wonderful for me if I had a c128:) Alas, mine is just a plain brown case c64. Thats okay though, Jeff gave me a few good ideas and I'll look around a bit more:) Thanks anyways:) Gurce Isikyildiz gisikyil@extro.ucc.su.oz.au #! rnews 1853 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news. mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!munnari.OZ.AU!metro!metro!news From: Gurce Isikyildiz Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Erm, digitising sound on c64 Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 16:03:51 +1100 Organization: Information Services, The University of Sydney, NSW, Australia Lines: 26 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3202DDB7.2FC7@extro.ucc.su.oz.au> References: <3201FA08.7759@extro.ucc.su.oz.au> <4tt8go$18hj@newsgate.sps.mot. com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-a-188.mp.usyd.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win95; I) Jeff Hunsinger wrote: > out how most sound samples are played on the C64. This only gives 4 bit resolution, > but it can provide surprisingly good results if done correctly with a good sample. Wow, I thought I was barking up the wrong tree with that idea, hmm, so maybe my friends circuit isn't so crash hot possibly or my ML routine isn't up to par:) Hmm, "good" sample hey? hehe, fair enough, maybe I expected too much wanting it to play metallica songs:) > I built a sound digitizer that hooked to the user port a long time ago. Maybe I > should dig that back up. Ya, i'd love to get any details from you if you come across, I'm not a wiz with the soldering iron but I can try:) Aah yah, I also found this program from compute! that digitised sound from the datasette but it was about as bad as mine:) > There was some really great info on sound sampling/playing a long time ago on this > newsgroup. It may have even been summarized for Commodore Hacking at some point. Alrighty, I'd better search around for this too then, so thanks for your help Jeff, I'll get to it:) Gurce Isikyildiz gisikyil@extro.ucc.su.oz.au #! rnews 935 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math. ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!freenet.columbus.oh.us!not-for-mail From: sjkonowa@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Scott Konowal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C65? Date: 3 Aug 1996 03:48:20 -0400 Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4tv084$8hv@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <4ttjq0$kni@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: login.freenet.columbus.oh.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] It is a souped-up C64 =8^) Michael W. Hall (mhall59@mail.us.net) wrote: : Can someone tell me what is a C65? I keep seeing that in posts. : mhall59@us.net -- Scott Konowal | AMIGA /// | A1200,'030/'882/50MHz sjkonowa@freenet.columbus.oh.us | /// | 2MChip/4MFast/14.4bps | \\\ /// | PGP pub. key avail. upon request | \\/// | Only Amiga. #! rnews 871 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news. mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!surfnet.nl! tuegate.tue.n l!toad.stack.urc.tue.nl!not-for-mail From: toine@stack.urc.tue.nl (Toine de Greef) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Wanted: 1001 sprites in border demo Date: 3 Aug 1996 10:24:13 +0200 Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4tv2bd$j79@toad.stack.urc.tue.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: toad.stack.urc.tue.nl X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I remember seeing a pal demo in the old days (by 1001 Crew? I hope I give the right credits.) It featured a picture of Sting using the whole screen including the borders using sprites. Can someone mail this demo to me uuencoded? Thanx, Toine. -- You must remember this, a .sig is just a .sig --From Casablanca #! rnews 1434 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!ix.netcom.com! news From: Etrin@ix.netcon.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: hardware and software copiers wanted Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 12:31:45 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 35 Message-ID: <320345fe.2573580@nntp.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lrx-ar2-19.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Aug 03 6:37:15 AM PDT 1996 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Thought I would try again for any of THIS TYPE hardware, software I am looking for original hardware copiers like 21 second backup burst nibbler super card the shadow also wanting to buy ANY software for these. +++++++++++ and any unique cartridges..Snapshot V1.0 any copy cartridges. If you have any of this stuff and would like to sell it drop me a line. Please leave me a description of what you have hardware/software version ...etc and the asking price I have picked up quite a few hardware items and still would like to find more. NEEDED any software for the 21 second copier and any software for the Burst Nibbler. I got the 21 second V3.0 and the butst nibbler software V1.7 with the units. If you have any of this type of thing for sale drop me a line, make sure and mention version in your note. ***** ANYTHING UNUSUAL OR UNIQUE ***** thanks for any and all mail Sparks@cei.net #! rnews 2161 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news. mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ycc.yale.edu!yale!news-mail-gateway! daemon From: Irv Cobb Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: 1571 drive Date: 3 Aug 1996 07:53:21 -0400 Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway Lines: 40 Sender: daemon@cs.yale.edu Message-ID: <19960803075311.aaaa001._@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: babyblue.cs.yale.edu On Thu, 1 Aug 1996 Dennis Brew wrote: > I have a 1571 disk drive that has a problem going into 1571 mode and once > it's in 1571 mode it has a hard time when you directory a disk. > In the 1541 mode it is fine. > When it does directory it does ok but then I change the disk it has a > hard time again. > Can anybody tell me whatthe problem might be? > I was wondering if it could be an IC ship, and what one it might be? > PLEASE HELP At least some of these symptoms make it sound like you have an original ROM 1751. Commodore first released them with a bunch of bugs, then later fixed the bugs and charged for the fix. Good business practice, I guess. ;-) The fix is still the same -- you've got to replace the ROM in your drive. Unfortunately, Commodore isn't selling them (or anything else) anymore. Fortunately, a CMD JiffyDOS ROM will solve your problem, and will work fine even if your computer doesn't have JD. So for about $30 you can fix it (assuming I'm right about what the problem is.) Other things that will help a bit: Don't use flippies in it. Early ROMs don't like them. Use clean disks (don't reformat old ones). Don't save more than 160K total, even on disks formatted double-sided. Use Geos. Its 1571 driver fixes the problem. Hope this helps. =============================================================================== | irv_cobb@radiks.net http://www.radiks.net/irv_cobb | | "Listen, for I will speak Files for Commodore Geos | | of excellent things..." Links to GARBC organizations | =============================================================================== #! rnews 1420 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!ix.netcom.com! news.ente ract.com!news.voyager.net!vixa!tim From: "Timothy R. Lewis" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Novaterm help! Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 10:13:48 -0400 Organization: Voyager Information Networks, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: vixa.voyager.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: tim@vixa Ok folks, this is a question about Novaterm....... I have been having the worst trouble lately with Novaterm and I am not sure why. I have a 128 and I have tried to get the 2 1571 disk drives into 71 mode. I can't! I was given the command to go into the Disk Commands and follow the menu. I did that. I went into the disk commands and I followed the instructions. When the command came up for DOS> I was told to type this: o0>m1 (Or something to that nature) Well, when I do this, the error light on th drive comes on and flashes! What I am trying to do is to get my 1571 drive into 71 mode. I have done everything I can think of to do this and it isn't working.....:( Could someone shed some light on this? I am getting frustrated! To confess, I have not used Novaterm vety long and am not familiar with it that well. Any help is appreciated! -Tim #! rnews 1899 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net! newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.isl.net!mmiller3 From: mmiller3@sparc.isl.net (Michael Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Commodore's Macro Assembler Blues Date: 3 Aug 1996 03:41:17 GMT Organization: InfoNet Inc., Rochester, MN Lines: 32 Message-ID: <4tuhot$lrv@news.isl.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sparc.isl.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Has anyone else had problems with this thing? It has worked flawlessly for me so far, but lately it produces code like this: (This code is part of a general disk routine handler I'm writing: it opens a file. RT3 is supposed to send a block-read command.) C03C 20 C0 FF JSR OPEN C03F 90 E8 BCC EXIT C041 4C E1 C0 JMP ERROR ;RT3: SEND U1, X=T; Y=S C044 4C E1 C0 RT3 STX RT3TR ;******?? .... C057 A6 50 LDX RT3ASE ;FOR THE SECTOR NUMBER C05B 20 EC C0 JSR A2ASC ;ACCUM 2 ASCII CODE IN $YYXX C05E EA NOP ;BREAKPOINT FOR TESTING C05F EA EC C0 RT3SND LDA #15 ;******?? (COMMAND CHANNEL) C062 20 C9 FF JSR CHKOUT C065 A2 00 LDA #0 C067 A2 00 FF RT3LOP LDA RT3TXT,X ;******?? and the pattern continues: it drops the command on lines with labels. Not on every line with a label; my initial jump table looks fine, and the entire RT1 routine came out OK. A few lables in the last part worked out as well. Are there any known bugs with this thing? Any cautions I should know about as I start doing including with the .LIB directive? Also, any recommendations on an assembler to move to? I've been happy with the CMA, but I wouldn't mind getting some kind of relative addressing (no more RT3LP1 types of lables.) Mike Miller #! rnews 1043 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso. uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.pe.net!news.pe.net!not-for-mail From: kh6zv9@victoria.pe.net (bob masse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Novaterm help! Date: 3 Aug 1996 08:08:21 -0700 Organization: PE.net - Internet access from the Press-Enterprise Company Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4tvq15$aat@victoria.pe.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: victoria.pe.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Novaterm is a very good term program, but why would you use it when you have a 128? (just curious) Anyway, power up the 128 in 128 mode then send the command "GO64" this will leave the 1571's in 71 mode for you. Then boot up NT. Or just get jiffydos, and save yourself about 3 minutes everytime you load NovaTerm and Jiffydos will automatically sense what type of disk is in the drive. Timothy R. Lewis (tim@voyager.net) wrote: : Ok folks, this is a question about Novaterm....... Bob kh6zv9@pe.net #! rnews 12061 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.isl.net!mmiller3 From: mmiller3@sparc.isl.net (Michael Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Joystick Port Interface (REPOST) Date: 3 Aug 1996 03:21:07 GMT Organization: InfoNet Inc., Rochester, MN Lines: 270 Message-ID: <4tugj3$lrv@news.isl.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sparc.isl.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Here it is again, for those who missed it--I cleaned it up a bit as well. --Mike Michael Jay Miller's Wonderful Joystick Port Networking System ...or at least a bunch of musings while watching an LED turn on and off at my command while the LED is sitting in a Radio Shack box connected to my joystick port... **WARNING: I don't have all the original stuff for this anymore; too many moves have caused it to diappear on me. I was able to find the box, and work out a few bugs in my theories. I still don't know how much current the CIA can handle. Hopefully it will be helpful, but if your Commodore fries messing around with this, I will not be responsible. I didn't fry my Commie doing this, so you probably won't have any trouble. This text is copyright (C)1996 Michael Jay Miller. You may freely distribute, print, etc. this text, so long as this message remains intact and this text remains pretty close to this version (bug fixes, etc. added.) If you make something useful out of this information, congratulations! I'd still like some kind of acknowledgement for my contribution. If you're making money from it, then a donation to Mike's CMD HD Fund would be appreciated. ........ "The Theory" The basic theory behind using the joystick ports lies in the 6526 CIA 1/A chip that controls the keyboard, joystick ports, and is used for tape and serial timing. For my simple tests, only 4 memory locations in that chip's registers are actually used: $DC00-$DC03 (56320-56323). If you have the book "Programming the Commodore 64" by Raeto Colin West, open to page 125 for a nice diagram of how the CIA looks in memory. If not, open to pages 328 & 329 of your Commodore 64 Programmer's Reference Guide. Here's a quick summary: $DC00 is Joystick Port 2 ("CIA Port A") $DC01 is Joystick Port 1 ("CIA Port B") Bit 4=Fire, Bit 3=E/Right, Bit 2=W/Left, Bit 1=S/Down, Bit 0=N/Up $DC02 is "Port A Data Direction Register" $DC03 is "Port B Data Direction Register" To read bits coming in (for a joystick, for example), you set the bits you want to read to 0 in the appropriate Data Direction Register, and then read the appropriate bits in the Port. To write bits out, you set the bits you want to write to 1 in the appropriate DDR, then set the bits you want to send on the Port. Don't forget that the internal keyboard routine expects to see $FF in $DC02, and $00 in $DC03. This is the major headache of this kind of project. The practical upshot of all this: if you disable the interrupts to get rid of the keyboard, reset the Data Direction Registers to how you want to read or write, and then put the right bits into the two ports, whatever is connected to the other side can read or write to this. This may be easier to see with an example: "The Box, Mark 1" Parts: 1 joystick extension cable (or end from a broken joystick), 1 project box, 1 or more LEDs, 1 or more switches, one of those speaker-wire clip 8-packs (the things you can clip wires into), and connection methods (clip leads, solder, etc.) + a monitor or assembler. In the Commodore 64 Programmer's Reference Guide, page 395, they show the pinout for the two joystick ports. Something like this: Joystick Common ------------------------- 1=Bit 0 7=5 volt ! o o o o o ! 2=Bit 1 8=GND ! 1 2 3 4 5 ! 3=Bit 2 ! o o o o ! 4=Bit 3 5=POT Y ! 6 7 8 9 ! 6=Bit 5 9=POT X ------------------- Mouse/Paddle What you want to do is wire up pins 1-4 to 4 ends of the speaker wire things, pin 7 to one of the speaker wire things, pin 8 to one of them, and maybe wire a couple switches in as well. Hook up an LED between pins 7 and 8: plug it in a joystick port, and turn on the computer. Hopefully it lights. If not, turn the LED around, check connections, etc. Once you know which way the LED works, remember which pin goes to 7 and which goes to 8; these remain the same throughout the experiments. **** Once you know which way to plug in your LED, hook it between pins 0 and 8. Turn the computer off, plug it into Joystick Port 2, and turn it back on. It should light up, since port 2 is set to all outputs, and the system is constantly looking for input there. Then try hooking it up to pins 7 and 0, and plugging it into port 1. It should light up as well. Either of these may cause characters to run across the screen, just like if you were holding up on the joystick in the appropriate port. **** * Bzzt! Wrong! The joystick forces bits to be on in the correct * memory Port, regardless of what is there to begin with. Sorry. Well, * if you hook the LED across ground the pins 1-4 or 6, you should get * a response. *** Now try hooking up a few LEDs to pins 1-4 and 8. For sake of example, I'll work with pins 1 and 2. Hook your box to port 1, and turn on the computer. The LEDs should be off. Now load up your favorite monitor (or assembler, I guess) and type in this: A C000 sei ; disable keyboard lda #0 ; initialize sta $DC01 ; joyport 1 sta $DC03 ; and its DDR : 4321 pins lda #07 ; that's 0000 1111=bits 0-3, pins 1-4 outputs sta $DC03 ; that's DDR B, setting pins 1-4 to output lda #01 ; pin 1 on sta $DC01 ; and get it going here jmp here ; here is the address your monitor gave for this line. G C000 Hopefully the LED turned on and the computer seems to lock up. Press RESTORE a few times to get back to the monitor (at least, my monitor does that.) By editing the line lda #01 ; pin 1 on to anything from 0 to 15, you can control the lights via their appropriate bits. Have fun. By changing the LEDs to being hooked between pins 7 and 1-4, with a switch wired in, and a nice BASIC program, you can read the status (just like a joystick). Page 344 of the Programmer's Reference Guide has a program you can adapt: just get rid of all the stuff about North and South and just PRINT the value in 56320 (port 2) or 56321 (port 1). Push the switch, the value should change. Yay! Now, hook an LED between pins 1 and 2. Put the voltage side (pin 7) on pin 1. Get back into your monitor, and try this: A C000 sei lda #00 ; init sta $DC01 sta $DC03 lda #01 ; output for pin 1, input for pin 2 sta $DC03 sta $DC01 ; activate nop ; pause nop nop ;*the pause is not needed, but it makes sure. nop nop lda $DC01 ; read sta $FE ; temp lda $00 ; reset sta $DC03 ; normally all reads cli ; back to normal lda $FE ; reload acc brk ; exit to monitor G C000 Hopefully, the accumulator now holds $03. The pause may take longer, or may not be needed (my notes don't indicate). By setting the appropriate bits, you can now read and write through the port. If you have two boxes, you can read and write between joystick ports (much safer). "But," you ask, "I can't do much in the way of input..." Well, that's why you need: "The Box, Mark 2" Parts: "The Box, Mark 1", Other end of joystick extension cable or similar 9-pin Male port, 1351 mouse or compatible, good ML skills. Remember we didn't use pin 6/bit 5, the fire button? This is why: if you wire in an extra joystick port with pins 5-9 attached, you can hook a 1351 up to it and read that from the SID chip, with the fire button running from pin 6 (bit 5) on the CIA. You don't want to hook up pins 1-4 because the other fire buttons run off there. Also, you want to make sure you set the CIA appropriately: $DC00 bits 7 and 6 control which paddle you're reading: 10xx xxxx = Paddles in Joyport 1 01xx xxxx = Paddles in Joyport 2 I'm sorry I don't have much in the way of specific examples for this, because this is where I stopped doing things and just wrote down ideas. If I can find that box again, I should be able to do a full-blown writeup for C=Hacking or something. The science fair curse strikes again. A MikeNet Cable To set up an actual cable to hook between two Commies and still allow one of them to use a mouse (for, say, selecting files from an on-screen directory list and menu?), you want to hook lines 1-4 direct connect, and pins 5-9 to pins 5-9 of a male 9-pin port or cable to hook to your 1351-compatible. File transfer The direct-connect file transfer protocol I had in mind would use pins 1 and 2 to send 2 bits at a time, pin 3 for a RDY line from the sending machine, and pin 4 for an ACK line from the receiving machine. Basically, the RDY line would change level when the sending computer had the appropriate bits on pins 1 and 2, and the ACK line would change every time the receiving computer got it. Or something like that. Or do like Craig Bruce and junk all that kind of ACKing for speed. Whatever. Network setup I had two basic ideas for network setups, a Ring style (not too great) and a Server style (cool, but requires lots of hardware). RingNet Each computer would be hooked from their joyport 2 to the next computer's joyport 1. One machine is designated "Master". This machine would send "I'm number 1, you're a Slave, take the next number and pass it along" until the Master received something like "I'm number 8, you're a Slave, take the next number and pass it along". Of course, the Master knows it's not a Slave. Then it sends out something like "There's 8 computers in the ring. We're open for business." Then, each computer can pass messages to each computer by number, and if you get a message that isn't your number, you pass it along. The master computer double-checks that the ring is working, and resets it if necessary. How can the computer keep working? Well, Craig Bruce has that 3-key rollover routine that also checks to see if the joystick ports are being used: if so, just trigger a routine to handle the message, pass it along if necessary, then clear the ports and continue. That's why I designated an RDY line: if that's up, the previous computer has a message to send. As long as the messages aren't sent very often, the system shouldn't slow down too much, and you may even be able to do other things in the meantime. Or you could go to where I got the idea from, the Atari ST program MIDIMaze, and write a fun game like that. Of course, you have to use the mouse to control it, but something could be arranged. Another game idea: Bard's Tale style MUD, full mouse control. Server Setup With a server, my design has a box hooked between the server and the other systems in the network. This box has its own processor (it might be a 64 only running this program) that has lines running to each system. Data pins 1 and 2 are hooked up to all systems and the box. Each system gets its own RDY and ACK line (from somewhere!) The server and the box have a standard 1/2/RDY/ACK that the box echos to the appropriate system. Each system has a number; the server is 0. Basically, when a system has a request for the server, it raises its ACK line; when the box and server are ready to process, the box raises the RDY line for that system, and then they transfer messages. If the system is sending a message to another system (like talk or ping in unix) the box handles sending that along. Otherwise, the box calls up the server, and sends messages to there to be handled. The messages would be queued, to avoid deadlocks--whenever a system is sending a message, the box would check to see if that system had any messages it needs to receive, and send them. That's basically all I have right now...feel free to comment on this, send me messages, design better systems, etc. #! rnews 741 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.isl.net!mmiller3 From: mmiller3@sparc.isl.net (Michael Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Alternate Reality, The City Date: 3 Aug 1996 03:24:28 GMT Organization: InfoNet Inc., Rochester, MN Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4tugpc$lrv@news.isl.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sparc.isl.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] My AR: TC disk has gotten messed up--after every fight it says "Disk Error" and I get 2 silver pieces. Anyone out there have the capability to copy this thing? I'd really like to get a couple good copies of both AR games. I can provide proof of original ownership for each game, if you want it. Mike Miller #! rnews 2124 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.cais.net!news.mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!ix .netcom.com!news.enteract.com!news.voyager.net!vixa!tim From: "Timothy R. Lewis" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Programmers wanted! Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 10:35:29 -0400 Organization: Voyager Information Networks, Inc. Lines: 30 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: vixa.voyager.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: tim@vixa How many people have recieved their Super CPU? from CMD? I heard they were shipping..... Let me share some thoughts about this and how programmers fit into the picture...... I understand that with new hardware, new software is sure to follow....here is something that I perceive to be a problem. First, how many people write software for Commodore anymore? I know of one....He belongs to my club! The name? Maurice Randall....I know of Nick Rossi (The creator of Novaterm) and a mixture of others. Here is something that has me concerned.....When the SuperCPU is out and in people's hands, is new software going to be created? The reason that I ask, is because I see more and more people abandoning the C= market and not enough people helping out to fill the void! Where are the programmers? I really hope that the new SuperCPU will be a hit among GEOS users, but I would sincerely love to have a revision done on GEOS. Don't you think it is about time that GEOS gets a major overhaul? If the new SuperCPU is going to work, then I would suggest that GEOS gets a new lease on life...and a new life! I am no a programmer and I don't know enoug to do such a major project...but it seems to me that GEOS does need some help! I can think of some things that would help out, but the question is...who is going to take a look at GEOS and do the revisions necessary to compliment the S-CPU? Well, that is my two cents worth....any and all comments are welcome! (Both good and bad!) Have a good one and.....Happy Computing! Tim #! rnews 1108 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.cais.net!mr.net!news.mid.net!news.uark.edu!comp.uark.edu!jas 01 From: J Self Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Request for Programming Assistance Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 10:05:27 -0500 Organization: The University of Arkansas Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <4tj14d$k59@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: comp.uark.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4tj14d$k59@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> I typed and ran the program. I was in C=64 mode of the 128D The result was that it printed 1 - 254 to the screen. Can you give me more specific instructions in respect to what you meant about applying the U1 command? I am using the 1571 drive in the C=128D. I can also try it on the external 1571 AND on the 1541s of the C=64. Whatever you need. I just assumed you wanted it tested on the C=64. Maybe you meant the C128. Anyway, let us know and we'll keep testing. #! rnews 1939 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!ames!enews.sgi.com!news.mathworks. com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news.us .net!usenet From: mhall59@mail.us.net (Michael W. Hall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: OVER 30000 C64 PROGRAMS!!! Date: 3 Aug 1996 16:36:19 GMT Organization: US Net, Incorporated Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4tvv63$1p7@news.us.net> References: <4tlt0b$4br@rubens.telebyte.nl> <4tqart$kk1@login.freenet.columbus. oh.us> <4tu90m$ni7@news.us.net> <01bb80f5$8d5632c0$06f667ce@mbendure.infinet.co m> NNTP-Posting-Host: host186.laurel.us.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (beta 2) In article <01bb80f5$8d5632c0$06f667ce@mbendure.infinet.com>, mbendure@infinet.com says... >Yeah, especially with people like you making a profit from their hard work ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What is all this. Im not selling anything here. I dont know what the hell you are thinking. >and not paying them a dime. How you folks can get away with selling a >product that contains several existing and still legally binding >copyrights, is beyond me. I would think selling this overseas would be a >federal offense, but then again, I'm no lawyer. Isn't the spa, some There you go again talking about you folks. and since you are talking about federal offenses, I guess you forgot the one about falsely accusing someone of a felony. You guys are always bitchin about people stealing your life away. Always acting like Commmodore went under because of people copying games. You seem to hope C= will re-emerge as a powerful platform and that people will buy up your useless shareware by the millions. Then you act like when some guy gives his friend a copy of PacMan that he has just screwed over Namco and needs to run out and find the former Namco programmers and give them a few bucks. Get real. #! rnews 1635 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!news. mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!EU.net!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!usenet1.news. uk. psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!gate.demon. co.uk From: Jason Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Wanted: 1001 sprites in border demo Date: Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:05:39 GMT Organization: Cosine Systems Lines: 18 Message-ID: <9608031405.AA0057i@cosine.demon.co.uk> References: <4tv2bd$j79@toad.stack.urc.tue.nl> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gate.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [AMIGA 1.3 950726BETA PL0] X-Mail2News-Path: relay-1.mail.demon.net!gate.demon.co.uk Toine de Greef (toine@stack.urc.tue.nl) wrote: : I remember seeing a pal demo in the old days (by 1001 Crew? I hope I : give the right credits.) It featured a picture of Sting using the whole : screen including the borders using sprites. Can someone mail this demo : to me uuencoded? The Sting one was just made with the 1001's ESCOS tool. I have the Tut the Great demo they did to show the system off if thats any good. Jason =-) _______________________________________________________________________ TMR / / / / / / / /\ / /__/ / / /__/ / / / /__/ Email: tmr@cosine.demon.co.uk / / / /\_/ / /__ / / / / __// Cosine Homepage: / / / /__/ / / / / / / / / / Moving soon! New site found... / / /_____/_____/_____/__/__/__/_____/_____________________________________/ / \_____\_____\_____\__\__\__\_____\_____________________________________\/ #! rnews 1629 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.cais.net!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!EU.net!usenet2.new s.uk.psi.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon! mail2news.demon.co.uk!gate.demon.co.uk From: Jason Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: legoland Date: Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:07:26 GMT Organization: Cosine Systems Lines: 21 Message-ID: <9608031407.AA0057n@cosine.demon.co.uk> References: <2657700873@cloud.apana.org.au> <838865682@p71.f411.n201.z2.ftn> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gate.demon.co.uk X-Comment-To: Pontus Berg X-Newsreader: TIN [AMIGA 1.3 950726BETA PL0] X-Mail2News-Path: relay-1.mail.demon.net!gate.demon.co.uk Pontus Berg (Pontus.Berg@p71.anet.canit.se) wrote: Stephen Lloyd: : : Who can help you to run legoland under c64s? I can! First I'll have to : ask you some questions. Pontus: : Hang on here - Is this the Legoland I coded with Harlekin or is there another : one? No, it was Legoland III. Did you do code on that one? Jason =-) _______________________________________________________________________ TMR / / / / / / / /\ / /__/ / / /__/ / / / /__/ Email: tmr@cosine.demon.co.uk / / / /\_/ / /__ / / / / __// Cosine Homepage: / / / /__/ / / / / / / / / / Moving soon! New site found... / / /_____/_____/_____/__/__/__/_____/_____________________________________/ / \_____\_____\_____\__\__\__\_____\_____________________________________\/ #! rnews 1289 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!news. mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon! mail2news .demon.co.uk!gate.demon.co.uk From: Jason Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Version of DOS in a 1541? Date: Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:03:37 GMT Organization: Cosine Systems Lines: 15 Message-ID: <9608031403.AA0057d@cosine.demon.co.uk> References: <4tua9d$14u@mugca.cc.monash.edu.au> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gate.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [AMIGA 1.3 950726BETA PL0] X-Mail2News-Path: relay-1.mail.demon.net!gate.demon.co.uk Matthew Spinks: : Can someone tell me what the standard version of DOS in an old-style : 1541 disk drive is? Mine both say they are V2.6. Jason =-) _______________________________________________________________________ TMR / / / / / / / /\ / /__/ / / /__/ / / / /__/ Email: tmr@cosine.demon.co.uk / / / /\_/ / /__ / / / / __// Cosine Homepage: / / / /__/ / / / / / / / / / Moving soon! New site found... / / /_____/_____/_____/__/__/__/_____/_____________________________________/ / \_____\_____\_____\__\__\__\_____\_____________________________________\/ #! rnews 2325 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.cais.net!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!disp atch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!gate.demon.co.uk From: Jason Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: OVER 30000 C64 PROGRAMS!!! Date: Sat, 3 Aug 96 13:54:14 GMT Organization: Cosine Systems Lines: 32 Message-ID: <9608031354.AA00578@cosine.demon.co.uk> References: <4tlt0b$4br@rubens.telebyte.nl> <4tqart$kk1@login.freenet.columbus. oh.us> <4tu90m$ni7@news.us.net> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gate.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [AMIGA 1.3 950726BETA PL0] X-Mail2News-Path: relay-1.mail.demon.net!gate.demon.co.uk Michael W. Hall: : Are you seroius?!?!?!? Who is being deprived here. No programmer is : collecting money on any C= software. And how much do you want to put on *that?* I counted *seven* entries for my own works on this CD of which one is released via Commodore Zone magazine (and therefore copyright), one is released via Commodore Format magazine (again, copyright and reverted to me after it was used) and one was touted around for sale and some git spread it. : Anything being sold is probably used anyway. If anyone out there is still : looking for their earnings from original copies of River Raid, they are : going to be poor for a long time. Sorry, but a lot of the software there is still commercially available, for example, Freds Back 3, Lions of the Universe, Heavenbound, Sword of Honour and my own stuff. My stuff I don't care about (I gave up trying to sell it and pretty much give the things away these days) but they *are* still copyrighted to me. Of course, if someone sent me a *freebie* of the CD I might be willing to shut up about my bits... =-) Jason =-) _______________________________________________________________________ TMR / / / / / / / /\ / /__/ / / /__/ / / / /__/ Email: tmr@cosine.demon.co.uk / / / /\_/ / /__ / / / / __// Cosine Homepage: / / / /__/ / / / / / / / / / Moving soon! New site found... / / /_____/_____/_____/__/__/__/_____/_____________________________________/ / \_____\_____\_____\__\__\__\_____\_____________________________________\/ #! rnews 772 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas. edu!newshost.convex.com!newsgate.duke.edu!news.eff.org!news.apk.net!nacs.net!ne ws From: David Graham Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: video digitiser Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 11:29:10 -0700 Organization: New Age Consulting Service, Cleveland, OH, USA Lines: 3 Message-ID: <32039A76.5F40@acclink.com> Reply-To: juggler@acclink.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.21.37.52 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win95; I; 16bit) I have a video digitiser with software and documentation. It is the same one cmd is selling for $175. Looking to trade it for a ramlink cart, or a 3.5, or a HD for the 128. #! rnews 2585 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!news.minds pring.com!usenet From: Radioactive Warrior Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Novaterm help! Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 12:01:16 +0000 Organization: What? me! worry?! Lines: 35 Message-ID: <32033F8C.964@orl.mindspring.com> References: Reply-To: radwar@orl.mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-176-117.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Timothy R. Lewis wrote: > > Ok folks, this is a question about Novaterm....... > > I have been having the worst trouble lately with Novaterm and I am not > sure why. I have a 128 and I have tried to get the 2 1571 disk drives > into 71 mode. I can't! I was given the command to go into the Disk > Commands and follow the menu. I did that. I went into the disk commands > and I followed the instructions. When the command came up for DOS> I was > told to type this: o0>m1 (Or something to that nature) Well, when I do > this, the error light on th drive comes on and flashes! > What I am trying to do is to get my 1571 drive into 71 mode. I have done > everything I can think of to do this and it isn't working.....:( > Could someone shed some light on this? I am getting frustrated! > To confess, I have not used Novaterm vety long and am not familiar with > it that well. Any help is appreciated! > -Tim Tim, I just tried it and it worked fine on my system (NOVATERM 9.5)... The only thing is to make sure you are sending these exact letters: u0>m1 (That is, U, as in umpire...) Not "or something to that nature"- anything else will cause the drive to error out... Also, if you reset the drive or issue a soft reset "UJ" command, your drive will revert back to 1541 mode. If this still dosen't work, your hardware may be defective. One drawback to NOVATERM when using two drives, there is no easy way to change the DISK COMMAND/DIRECTORY commands from one device to another. Hopefully, Nick will fix this in NT9.6.?. The only way I have found to do it is to set UPLOAD device to your first drive and DOWNLOAD device to your second drive (or vice-versa) then, in term mode, activate UPLOAD then abort and all commands will be sent to your first drive. Likewise- select DOWNLOAD then abort and all commands are sent to your second drive and so on... hope it helps- RadWar #! rnews 2003 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.cais.net!news.mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!po rtc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!news.drenet. dnd.ca!crc-news.doc.ca!nott!emr1!news From: Rene Guillas Subject: Re: VIC-20 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rguillas.dialup.emr.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3202B7A3.466B@NRCan.gc.CA> Sender: news@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca Reply-To: ag090@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: NRCan(Government of Canada) References: <4ts63e$pj8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 02:21:23 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win16; I) Lines: 27 Gary Sutton wrote: > > Hihi! I was just wondering how many of you out there use a VIC-20? > Until just a couple weeks ago, I didn't think much of them. But now that > I have one and have found all sorts of cartridges for 25 cents each for > her, she's turning into an impressive little beast. Heck, I even have > two disk drives for her, a 1541 and a 1541-2. > Anyone know of an editor-assembler cartridge for Vicki? (my name for her, > Mindi is the name of the 128 sitting on the desk next to her). I would > really like to program for her and provide support to other VIC users > eventually. > > One last thing... Anyone else out there personalize their systems by > naming them? If so, what do you call your 8-bit beast? Uhhh..Mine is "Commie". Original Huh?(Don't worry, I'm a capitalist) > I'd say so!!! -- Colin Guillas http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ag090 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/1603 So what does the Maytag man do in his spare time? >Plays with his C=64 of course :-) (THX Jack) Was Sally really Harry? How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? It all boils down to: WHO THE HELL CARES? (Well...maybe Sally's boy friend...) #! rnews 3358 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news. mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit. cornell .edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!news.drenet.dnd.ca!crc-news.doc.ca!nott!emr1!news From: Rene Guillas Subject: Re: VIC-20 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rguillas.dialup.emr.ca Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------438F33274478" Message-ID: <3202B7B2.6965@NRCan.gc.CA> Sender: news@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca Reply-To: ag090@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Organization: NRCan(Government of Canada) References: <4ts63e$pj8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 02:21:38 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win16; I) Lines: 56 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------438F33274478 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary Sutton wrote: > > Hihi! I was just wondering how many of you out there use a VIC-20? > Until just a couple weeks ago, I didn't think much of them. But now that > I have one and have found all sorts of cartridges for 25 cents each for > her, she's turning into an impressive little beast. Heck, I even have > two disk drives for her, a 1541 and a 1541-2. > Anyone know of an editor-assembler cartridge for Vicki? (my name for her, > Mindi is the name of the 128 sitting on the desk next to her). I would > really like to program for her and provide support to other VIC users > eventually. > > One last thing... Anyone else out there personalize their systems by > naming them? If so, what do you call your 8-bit beast? Uhhh..Mine is "Commie". Original Huh?(Don't worry, I'm a capitalist) > I'd say so!!! -- Colin Guillas http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ag090 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/1603 So what does the Maytag man do in his spare time? >Plays with his C=64 of course :-) (THX Jack) Was Sally really Harry? How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? It all boils down to: WHO THE HELL CARES? 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Date: 3 Aug 1996 16:45:04 GMT Organization: INS Info Services, Des Moines, Iowa, USA Lines: 61 Message-ID: <4tvvmg$ure@insosf1.netins.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: worf.netins.net Howdy; Ti> I understand that with new hardware, new software is sure to Ti> follow....here is something that I perceive to be a problem. First, Ti> how many people write software for Commodore anymore? Some off-the-cuff that come to mind: Rod Gasson - QRR Quick Offline Read and Reply, Dave Schmoll - EZ Loader, CMD Hard Drive Menu System. Craig Bruce - Zed Editor 128, Ace Operating System, Jim Brain - New Buddy 816 Assembler. Myself - Spray Paint, Karma Assembler, RES 80128, Fontigus 128, Maurice Randall - Mr. Geos everything. Nick Rossi - Nova Term. And Loadstar sure seems to be able to buy programs (so somebody is writing them). Ti> something that has me concerned.....When the SuperCPU is out and in Ti> people's hands, is new software going to be created? I'm sure there will be - but it is a catch 22, why spend the time developing something only to have it pirated by so many? Ti> The reason that I Ti> ask, is because I see more and more people abandoning the C= market Ti> and not enough people helping out to fill the void! Where are the Ti> programmers? Oh, they are out there. I know of several good programs setting on programmers disks because they don't want to give it away. I don't think it is so much a lack of programmers, but a lack of a decent software company to market much of what has already been produced. If were a software reseller, and dropped into this group and saw guys selling entire pirated CD collections of software, would you want to get into this market? Why do you think they all left in the first place? Ti> I really hope that the new SuperCPU will be a hit among Ti> GEOS users, but I would sincerely love to have a revision done on Ti> GEOS. Don't you think it is about time that GEOS gets a major Ti> overhaul? Why - it would make zero money and cost thousands (if not tens of thousands) of hours to upgrade. Notice that CMD does mostly hardware with forays into software only when necessity to support their hardware? With piracy to sad, there is no use in developing a new Geos - it would be a waste of time and effort for zero reward. Ti> If the new SuperCPU is going to work, then I would suggest Ti> that GEOS gets a new lease on life...and a new life! I am no a Ti> programmer and I don't know enough to do such a major project...but it Ti> seems to me that GEOS does need some help! I can think of some things Ti> that would help out, but the question is...who is going to take a look Ti> at GEOS and do the revisions necessary to compliment the S-CPU? Speed alone is the one thing Geos has always needed. Running under the Scpu, may be the first time in over a Decade that Geos actually works like it was suppose to in the first place. ... phdss@worf.netins.net #! rnews 1638 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!usenet.logical.net!news.wizvax.net!vger.vgernet.net!mpython From: mpython@vgernet.net (Monty Python) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Erm, digitising sound on c64 Date: 3 Aug 1996 16:49:33 GMT Organization: Digis R Us Lines: 27 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4tvvut$tea@news.wizvax.net> References: <3201FA08.7759@extro.ucc.su.oz.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: vger.vgernet.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Gurce Isikyildiz (gisikyil@extro.ucc.su.oz.au) wrote: > Hello :) > Hmm, maybe this has been asked before I dunno but I looked around a fair > bit and haven't learnt much. Okies, I wanted to find out how they > digitise sound on the c64 'cos i was rilly impressed the first few times > I heard my c64 talk to me, in Impossible Mission, Barbie, etc:) "Anuder > veeseetoor, staay a vile, staay fooreever" and so on:) You can check my homepage and FTP site, listed in the sig below. My webpage is dedicated to digitized sounds on the 64/128. You can get info there, as well as players/recorders and samples for both the 64 and 128 modes. If you don't se what you want from the webpage, just click on the "Go to FTP" or use ftp.vgernet.net /pub/mpython -- <<-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=>> >> Commodore 128 User / mpython@vgernet.net \ Monty Python Fan << << CUGB President /________________________\ Computer Addict >> >> The C=64/128 Digital Homepage http://www.vgernet.net/mpython << <<=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=->> #! rnews 3310 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!ix.netcom.com!ne ws From: "Jack Followay, Jr. (Rascal@PHB)" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Programmers wanted! Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 11:55:59 -0500 Organization: PowerHouse (XNET/CommNet) Lines: 54 Message-ID: <3203849F.4A81@ix.netcom.com> References: Reply-To: jacklf@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: hou-tx16-17.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Aug 03 11:53:54 AM CDT 1996 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win95; I) Timothy R. Lewis wrote: > > How many people have recieved their Super CPU? from CMD? I heard they > were shipping..... > Let me share some thoughts about this and how programmers fit into the > picture...... > I understand that with new hardware, new software is sure to > follow....here is something that I perceive to be a problem. First, how > many people write software for Commodore anymore? I know of one....He > belongs to my club! The name? Maurice Randall....I know of Nick Rossi > (The creator of Novaterm) and a mixture of others. Here is something that > has me concerned.....When the SuperCPU is out and in people's hands, is > new software going to be created? The reason that I ask, is because I see > more and more people abandoning the C= market and not enough people > helping out to fill the void! Where are the programmers? I really hope > that the new SuperCPU will be a hit among GEOS users, but I would > sincerely love to have a revision done on GEOS. Don't you think it is > about time that GEOS gets a major overhaul? > If the new SuperCPU is going to work, then I would suggest that GEOS gets > a new lease on life...and a new life! I am no a programmer and I don't > know enoug to do such a major project...but it seems to me that GEOS does > need some help! I can think of some things that would help out, but the > question is...who is going to take a look at GEOS and do the revisions > necessary to compliment the S-CPU? > > Well, that is my two cents worth....any and all comments are welcome! > (Both good and bad!) > > Have a good one and.....Happy Computing! > > Tim From what I hear, GEOS _does_ get a new lease on life with the SuperCPU. GEOS's major fault was that it was SLOW. Doesn't sound so slow anymore. There are still quite a few programmers out there. But I don't know how many plan on developing FOR the SuperCPU. It's not like the PC market where the programmers push the envelope to force you to upgrade to the next level of INTEL technology. This is the first true proccessor upgrade for a 64. Who knows how the community will actually respond. When I save up enough spare cash to pick on up, I will certainly want to play with the idea of ?native? SuperCPU programs; but I doubt we will see very many over-hauls of major products for what may or may not (hope not!) turn out to be a 'niche' market. Think about how many programs you find in ?native? 128 mode. How about 80 columns? VDC? Not a whole lot. Not meaning to be negative; I certainly hope it will take off. (At least long enough for me to buy mine! =] ) #! rnews 1119 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!hunter.premier.net!news.cais.net!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs. ua lberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca!pdporth From: Phil Porth Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: 1541 device 9??? Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 11:17:56 -0600 Organization: Calgary Free-Net Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <4tr6et$7d6@news.us.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pdporth@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Michael W. Hall" In-Reply-To: <4tr6et$7d6@news.us.net> On 1 Aug 1996, Michael W. Hall wrote: > Does anyone know how to make a 1541 device #9??? It's in the drive manual as well as in the FAQ's. Locate the half-moon jumpers on you drive cct board, and cut the trace on one to change the drive number. Phil Porth (aka Phone Man) From the land of the frozen North, Calgary Alberta Canada Home of the Calgary Stampede and Calgary Commodore Users Group #! rnews 1287 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!hunter.premier.net!news.cais.net!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs. ua lberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca!pdporth From: Phil Porth Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: 1571-1581 help Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 11:24:06 -0600 Organization: Calgary Free-Net Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <4tlrca$767@news.ysu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pdporth@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Jacob Huebert In-Reply-To: <4tlrca$767@news.ysu.edu> On 30 Jul 1996, Jacob Huebert wrote: > I need to copy files from my 1571 to my 1581. Can anyone provide > me with or direct me to a program for the c64 that can do this? Uni-copy on the 1571 & 1581 System disk drive disks will copy either way. There are also many good commercial programs out there (Maverick, F-copy [CMD] Copy-all ) Novaterm and Dialogue128 even have copy programs built in that will serve you well. Phil Porth (aka Phone Man) From the land of the frozen North, Calgary Alberta Canada Home of the Calgary Stampede and Calgary Commodore Users Group #! rnews 4207 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!info.ucla. edu!news.bc.net!news.mindlink.net!van-bc!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!not-for-mail From: nibbler@MCS.COM (nibbler) Newsgroups: rec.games.video.marketplace,rec.games.video.classic,comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS: C64 disk games (CotK) Date: 3 Aug 1996 14:31:10 -0500 Organization: home Lines: 85 Message-ID: <4u09du$p34@Mercury.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.mcs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2 (KSD)] Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com rec.games.video.marketplace:74948 rec.games.video. classic:55093 comp.sys.cbm:58992 Hi! I have about 50 C64 disks that were included in the half-ton of videogame stuffs I bought from the Curse of the Knight Foundation. Since I have no interest in C64 disks, they're up for sale. Unless otherwise noted, all titles are used originals, and include box and manual. In some cases it looks like the manual is the box, so I may be missing a real box that I don't know about. These disks are untested, but assumed working. If you buy something and find it doesn't work, I'll provide a refund. If this concerns you, I have a couple hundred references from my auctions that can verify I won't take the money and run. I'd like to sell the whole package at once, but may consider breaking it up, depending on the offers I get. Anyhow, here's the list: Amazon Telarium Aztec Datamost Bruce Lee Datasoft Computer Truimph / 21 (disk only) public domain? Crime Stopper (no manual) Hayden Crystal Caverns (no box) Hayden Data Manager II Timeworks Death in the Carribean (no box) Micro Fun Dragon Hunter K-Tek Dragon's Lair EOA Forbidden Forest Cosmi Games I (no manual) Commodore Games II (no manual) Commodore Games III (no manual) Commodore Ghostbusters (no box) Activision Golden Oldies Software Country (Toolworks?) Great Gonzo in WordRider Simon and Schuster Hear Say Demo (no box) Hear Say Heart of Africa (disk only) EOA Indiana Jones - Lost Kingdom Mindscape Infiltrator (new in shrinkwrap) Mindscape Instant Programmer's Guide (disk only) Koala Kid Writer Spinnaker Load n Go (disk only) Load n Go MAD Spy vs. Spy First Star Marble Madness (new in shrinkwrap) EOA Marble Madness (used. Yup, 2 copies!) EOA MasterType Scarborough Mind Prober Jr (no box) Human Edge Mindshadow (no box) Activision Mr. Tester (no box) BCI Perry Mason - Mandarin Murder Telarium Pocket Money (no manual) ALA Puzzle Panic (disk only) Epyx Questron SSI Raid on Bungeling Bay Broderbund Rainbow Quest WG Books Rock n Roll Studio (no box) Spinnaker Seastalker Infocom Skyfox (new in shrinkwrap) EOA Spy's Demise Penguin Swiss Family Robinson Windham Classics Test/Demo (disk only) Commodore Tracer Sanction (no box) Activision Vegas Gambler (no box) California Dreams Video Poker (no box) Gaming Software Witness Infocom Your Money Manager Simon and Schuster Zork I Infocom BOOKS: How to Use the C64 Alfred Publishing Using the C64 in the Home Spectrum Exploring AI on your C64 Bantam MAGS: Commodore Power/Play June/July 1985 Commodore Microcomputers May/June 1985 Commodore: The Microcomputer Magazine Feb/Mar 1984 That's it! If you're interested, make an offer. No trades, please. nibbler@mcs.com #! rnews 565 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!delphi.com !usenet From: MrTophat Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: FS: Money Manager Date: Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:37:27 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: <4tefn1$r65@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1b.delphi.com X-To: Marco Sicco Still have these for sale? #! rnews 1158 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn. uoknor .edu!news.ysu.edu!yfn.ysu.edu!aa363 From: aa363@yfn.ysu.edu (Jacob Huebert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Who owns Epyx games? Date: 3 Aug 1996 18:53:59 GMT Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4u0787$4p7@news.ysu.edu> References: <4tt43p$s9b@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <1996Aug2.020849@clstac> Reply-To: aa363@yfn.ysu.edu (Jacob Huebert) NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu In a previous article, ckaiser@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Po-Ching Lives!) says: >In <1996Aug2.020849@clstac> jmaniquis@csupomona.edu writes: > >>Howdy, > >>I just wanted to find out if anyone here knows who owns the rights to the games >>made by Epyx. This year's olympic games have brought out some memories of c64 >>games like summer games and winter games. Those were sooo cool! > >If I'm not mistaken, Epyx is still in operation. To the best of my >knowledge, they are in Carlsbad, Calif. What do they make? I haven't seen anything from them in years.. -- Jacob Huebert aa363@yfn.ysu.edu #! rnews 1128 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.coast.net! lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!nntp.primenet.com!news. sprint link.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!galileo. cris.com!Rug-rat From: Rug-rat@cris.com (Thomas Pinto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: CMD Hard Drive replacement Date: 3 Aug 1996 20:49:28 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4u0e0o$o6e@herald.concentric.net> References: <01bb7f35$3f24ef40$b52060cc@amazon.channel1.com> <01bb80f7$ad3798c0$ 06f667ce@mbendure.infinet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: galileo.cris.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] >PAUL M. WRITES: > Has anyone replaced the hard drive in a CMD hard drive? Yes. I have. I replaced my 40 meg Cmd-Hd with a 540meg Quantum 3.5" 1/2Height drive. I also daisychained a 730meg Quantum to the drive and in the 3 years or so of running it NON-stop 24/hrs/7days, it has NEVER given me any problems! I really recommend you buy Quantum. They are very affordable since the Hd prices have come down a considerable margin since 3 yrs ago. -Tom #! rnews 1569 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.asu.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.l lnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!news2.acs. oakland.edu!newsfeed.concentric.net!news-master!not-for-mail From: Gaelyne@galileo.cris.com (GAELYNE) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Dialogue bug?? Date: 3 Aug 1996 15:58:27 -0400 Organization: Gaelyne's Other Home Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4u0b13$gi2@galileo.cris.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: galileo.cris.com AL> If I open the buffer to save stuff with the logo/B cmd, it saves it AL> to buffer (and or appends it to buffer) alright, however it AL> insists on double spacing all the lines, so I have to go through AL> the buffer and Silly question, but what do you have the margins set for ? I don't know if it's related to the margins, but it's worth taking a look and experimenting. Cheers, Gaelyne Gaelyne R. Moranec (Gasson) moranec@hal9000.net.au //\ /\\ 90 Hilliers Rd || * \ . . / * || Reynella S.A. 5161 Fido: 1:366/221.128 \\____\X/____// Australia 3:800/809.128 / * /O\ * \ \__/ " \__/ WWW: http://hal9000.net.au/~moranec QWKRR128: http://hal9000.net.au/~moranec/qtoc.html Speaking for myself and not for any publications or other employers. ___ QWKRR128 V4.51 [R] --- * Origin: Lunar Illuminations / moranec@hal9000.net.au (3:800/809.64) #! rnews 1536 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.cais.net!mr.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!news.genuity.net!news.lafn. org!lafn.org!lafn.org!ar249 From: ar249@lafn.org (Tim Phelps) Subject: FS:C128 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lafn.org Message-ID: <1996Aug3.184608.1235@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Reply-To: garayg@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Anthony Garay) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 18:46:08 GMT Lines: 39 Be sure to reply to the "reply-to" address not the "from:" address. ================= Begin forwarded message ================= From: garayg@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Anthony Garay) To: ar249@lafn.ORG Subject: For $ale !? Date: Thu, 01 Aug Dear Commodore person- I came across your web site under a Netscape seach for "Commodore." Maybe you can help me. I'm looking to sell a good condition, fully operative COMMODORE 128. Do you know any groups or companies or persons that may be interested, and if so, how could I reach them? Thanks alot for your time, - Anthony -- Tim Phelps -- The comments I made above are my own. T.Phelps4@genie.com / ar249@lafn.org / http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/3284 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/4645 -- Tim Phelps -- The comments I made above are my own. T.Phelps4@genie.com / ar249@lafn.org / http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/3284/ http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/4645 #! rnews 737 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!theshop.net!usenet From: joeyjojo@theshop.net (Steven Brumley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Commedore HELP,.....HEEEELP!!! Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 21:57:44 GMT Organization: The Internet Shop Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4u0hme$6ti@pineapple.theshop.net> Reply-To: Steven Brumley NNTP-Posting-Host: mango4.theshop.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I have a friend who is looking a program called SysGen 7.0, or any program that will format a Lt. Kernal Hard Drive to a Commedore Format. His copy went kablooey....... Don't repost your reply here in the newsgroup. Please reply to: joeyjojo@theshop.net #! rnews 1213 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.cais.net!mr.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!news feed.pitt.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!newsgate.duke.edu!interpath!news.sprintlink.net! news-fw-22.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!news.s rintlink.net!news-ana-24.sprintlink.net!ns1.win.net!bugs From: "Simeon Amburgey" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Stuff For Sale Date: 3 Aug 1996 20:14:37 GMT Organization: Sound Creations Lines: 21 Message-ID: <01bb8178$153257a0$9bd1d7cc@ns1.win.net.win.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-55.win.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1141 I still have a lot of stuff still available. 1 64 1 64c 2 1541s 1 1750 REU- Expanded to 1meg 1 Battery back-up unit for the REU 1 Syntech(Passport Compatible) With Tape Sync Lots of original MIDI Music software. 1 Panasonic 1123 24pin printer 1 SuperSnapshot version 5 A listing appears on my website at http://www.win.net/~sndcreate You can also contact me at simeon@sndcreate.win.net Thanks , Simeon Amburgey Louisville, KY #! rnews 667 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.com!nntp. primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!ix.netcom.com!de fault From: gamesrme@ix.netcom.com (Joe Bedard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: WTB:VIC-20 8k or 16k RAM expander Date: Sat, 03 Aug 96 23:26:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4u0nes$i8h@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: prv-ri1-07.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Aug 03 6:30:36 PM CDT 1996 X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 Anyone who would like to sell me a 8k or 16k RAM Expander(preferably 16k Commodore version) please contact me... Thanks Joe gamesrme@ix.netcom.com #! rnews 2126 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!ott.istar!istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!news.nstn. ca! coranto.ucs.mun.ca!InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca!abe0084 From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Dialogue bug?? Date: 4 Aug 1996 01:10:27 GMT Organization: St. John's InfoNET Lines: 34 Message-ID: <4u0ta3$66v@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: infonet.st-johns.nf.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Joesph Fenn (jfenn@spartacus.hula.net) wrote: : I have been using Dialogue V2.2D for some time now and no matter how : I set up the Phonelist default or the config file cr cr/lf or lf only, : If I open the buffer to save stuff with the logo/B cmd, it saves it : to buffer (and or appends it to buffer) alright, however it insists on : double spacing all the lines, so I have to go through the buffer and This has been my #1 problem with term programs since getting on the Net in January. In fact, my first e-mail message of all was to ask Jim Brain about it. I have since seen two posts on usenet from people with the same problem (with both Dialogue and Desterm). Most of the responses have been from people saying they don't have the same problem. No idea why. : the "term screen Grab cmd" logo/G it grabs the text from the term This is what I do. The *Only* way for me to retain information, I might add. : screen and takes it to buffer without any extra spaced lines just as : should be. I spoke to some other users of Dialogue V2.2D and they : say they dont have that problem. Does anybody have any ideas?. : I normally have the TABS clrd in the buffer default, and WW turned on. No tabs or buffer settings are of any help, period. : The lines go in okay with no wrapping at wrong places nor nothing like : that. Thats why I use DESTERM most of the time as it does not do : that silly double spacing when capturing to buffer. I'd like to know how/why you don't get this double-spacing with Desterm! I do. - Adam #! rnews 582 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed. internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!usenet From: arendt@usa.pipeline.com(mike arendt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: FS: C64 disk games (CotK) Date: 4 Aug 1996 01:51:03 GMT Organization: Pipeline Lines: 3 Message-ID: <4u0vm7$b43@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4u09du$p34@Mercury.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.231.3 X-PipeUser: arendt X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (mike arendt) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 with my low income, ill start the bid at $5.00 #! rnews 1041 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: YQHM06A@prodigy.com (Antonio Boyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Commodore Hardware/software for sale Date: 4 Aug 1996 03:09:57 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4u14a5$qj0@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap6-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 I am getting rid of all my Commodre Computer Equipment , the system includes the following components: 1 - c128 Computer 2 - 1571 drives 1 - 1541 drive 1 - 1660 300bps modem 1 - new power supply 1 - okidata color printer 1 - commodore 4 color plotter 1 - commodore printer 1 - RGB color monitor a couple of joysticks manuals for all hardware and others software (approx 100 5.25 disks) The best offer takes the whole thing...I will not seperate these components Leave email to YQHM06A@Prodigy.com Best offer takes it all Later Antonio Boyer #! rnews 1078 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news. mathworks.com!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: RVTP18B@prodigy.com (Mr. David L. Tuomi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Programmers wanted! Date: 4 Aug 1996 03:37:30 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 1 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4u15tq$27f0@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4tvvmg$ure@insosf1.netins.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap1-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: BBUsenet Version 1.0 Well, I know of one. Mr. Brian Bell who writes Omni 128 BBS. Mr Ben Holmes, who just recently finished a new Lotto program for the 64. And there are many others, I'm sure. Part of the problem with Commodore programs is that its difficult to distribute them. Personally, when I write software I make it freeware, so that anyone can use or copy it. But, like with Mr. Bell of Omni 128 you have to know about his extraordinary program before you could decide upon purchasing it. And, that can be difficult, knowing what is out there. ---------- ÿÿÿ