BASIC), than I would for a lesser program written in RG> assembler. Agreed! And nothing has come close to it for the 64, believe me, I've looked! Now, having received Novaterm 9.6 the other day, I believe I'm in heaven! Actually, I should qualify my first statement somewhat. Fritzterm is a great program for fast, reliable xfer of files, etc. But for sheer convenience, features *and* reliability, nothing has come close. If anyone who runs Novaterm hasn't ordered 9.6 yet, I *urge* you to do so, it's worth every penny, and then some! Take care, Steve - QWKie v3.1 - If I go crazy, should I leave you a note? --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.2j * Origin: *Mongo's Playhouse* Parsons Kansas (316) 421- 3544 1:298/5 (1:14/791) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-ReplyTo-No: 163 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 131 (original); 177 (database) From: Kevin Reno To: STEPHEN STOCKER Subject: Novaterm 9.6 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 19:17:00 SS> SS> Agreed! And nothing has come close to it for the 64, believe me, I've SS>looked! SS> Now, having received Novaterm 9.6 the other day, I believe I'm in SS>heaven! SS> Actually, I should qualify my first statement somewhat. Fritzterm is a SS>great program for fast, reliable xfer of files, etc. But for sheer SS>convenience, features *and* reliability, nothing has come close. SS> If anyone who runs Novaterm hasn't ordered 9.6 yet, I *urge* you to do SS>so, it's worth every penny, and then some! SS> SS> Take care, SS> Steve The check is in the mail. :) --- DBSMail V2.00e [A808B798] * Origin: Afterlife 28.8 V.fc -alife.com- (916)488-9977 (1:203/6969) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 120 (original); 166 (database) From: Lee Novak Subject: uuencodes? Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 01:44:00 Hi everyone... I've learned enough from this echo to know that these uuencoded(?) messages are neat ways of holding a program in visible ascii so it can be easily swapped via messages - like this one. I also know that you need a program to extract the original program from the text. This is not very important to me (yet), but was wondering in Novaterm 9.6 does this conversion for me? At present, I am not able to get at these things. But, like I said, it ain't crucial. later! --- Telegard v3.02/mL * Origin: The Confused Computer, Moose Jaw, SK. 306-691-5096 (1:140/147) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 121 (original); 167 (database) From: Lee Novak Subject: Sidplayer SOURCE CODE Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 01:59:00 Yo! Okay, I'm ready to give up. Frustrated at trying to reverse-engineer the "Sidplayer" module (that just plays the music) or make heads or tails out of the format used in storing the songs, I appeal to you all... I need to get a hold of some source code. I want to understand how these Sid tunes are made up and played, so I can convert Sidstuff to Songsmith format. Most of you have Sidplayer, but how many actually know how it works??? What about the original author? Is he still about? Who actually "owns" the format? Can I get into trouble trying to tinker with it? Has a book or magazine gone into great depth about it? (catching breath) It may sound a little ridiculous, for Sidplayer songs sound mighty fine as is, and converting them to the "weaker" Songsmith format will definitely result in some loss in quality... but I've got a use in mind for all this. If there is a program out there in a vast User's Group library that converts Sidplayer to Songsmith format... well! I want it! That would allow me to forget all about dissecting Sidplayer (yuk! a dreadful task.) 'cause that's all I really need. But I such a program does not exist, I may be the one to write it. Stay tuned --- Telegard v3.02/mL * Origin: The Confused Computer, Moose Jaw, SK. 306-691-5096 (1:140/147) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-ReplyTo-No: 167 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 140 (original); 186 (database) From: RUSSELL PRATER To: LEE NOVAK Subject: Sidplayer SOURCE CODE Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 22:34:00 Hi Lee, LN> Most of you have Sidplayer, but how many LN> actually know how it works??? What LN> about the original author? Is he still LN> about? Who actually "owns" the LN> format? Can I get into trouble trying to LN> tinker with it? Has a book or LN> magazine gone into great depth about it? Sidplayer was originally published in "All About the Commodore 64, Volume Two" by Compute Books. Then Craig Chamberlain added to it and wrote "Compute!'s Music System for the Commodore 128 & 64, The Enhanced Sidplayer" which was also published by Compute! Then Mark Dickenson wrote Stereo Sid Player, and somebody wrote The Stereo Sid Editor (I don't remember who). That is about the history of it and I doubt highly that Compute! or anyone else will mind if you play around with it. Chamberlain's work was mostly in utilities to WRITE the Sid Mus files and not the format itself. ... URA Redneck if when you talk about fishermen, Granny's name comes up -=- QWKRR128 V4.32 [R] --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.3H1e * Origin: Computer Country * P.C. FL * 28.8K * 904-769-9431 @ (1:3608/5) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 122 (original); 168 (database) From: Norris Elwood To: Kenneth Barsky Subject: SID Music Disks Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 22:01:00 Kenneth, I'll check out the files on your music list disks and let you know at a later time which ones are bad. I don't know why you had trouble formatting the disks I sent you. They are just blank, double-side, double-density disks. I have used SID files on 3.5" disks. I just boot the main program from a 5.25" disk, have the 1581 drive set as the "data" drive, and they work fine! (Also load alot faster than from a 1541!) I would prefer the music disks on 3.5", but if it's too much trouble, go ahead and put them on 5.25" disks. I'm just thinking that there will be quite a few 5.25" disks when all is copied rather than about 1/3 to 1/2 as many 3.5" disks if you went that route. If you could leave me your phone number, I will call you about this. Even though we're talking Commodore stuff here, I don't think Russell (the moderator) will be too happy about this post! Talk to you later... Norris Or e-mail me at: Norris.Elwood@privy.com --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Privy Ledged BBS, Kearns, Utah (801) 966-6270 (1:311/5.0) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 123 (original); 169 (database) From: Karen Allison To: Race Schultz Subject: @1:396/17 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 08:23:00 RE: What Race Schultz was referring to about For Sale/Swap on 26 Jul'96 ... RS> Super Graphix cartridge, How much for this, Race? I can offer up to $30, and that is a stretch for me right now. Let me know, please. Hugz! ... Oxymoron: Clearly MisUnderstood. === QWKRR128 V4.32 [R] --- * Origin: File Quest (1:388/14) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 124 (original); 170 (database) From: John Larkin To: David Cheshin Subject: Useress?? Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 23:38:00 DC> pacet fills up quick with the comedy and humor confrences. I will let DC> you know if John get the colour thing figured out for us. I haven't had much luck yet. So far, I've discovered where the color map for the screen is ($8000), and I can change it manually, but I have no idea where the program does it. About the only color change I've figured out so far is changing the color of the text when you enter a command at the prompt. For example; When you hit A for Again, I can get it to print "Again" in any color you want. That's not very useful though. I'm not even sure why that works, it takes the value of the desired color and pokes it into the location that defines the text color for normal 40 column printing. But it's not using text mode, it's using hi-res mode where a single number in memory defines the foreground and background colors. The most annoying thing about ML programs is that they only perform about 3 operations before jumping somewhere else in memory. Plus, I have to fix the disk; I saved a small file to the side with the packet on it, and it developed an error. Luckly, I had transferred the packet and Qwkie to my Amiga to try and run it under an emulator with some special utilities (which didn't work). I have to transfer the files back to my C-64 again. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: The population is growing. (1:141/455) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 125 (original); 171 (database) From: RUSSELL PRATER Subject: Ye Olde Rules Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 22:37:00 Commodore Computer Conference (CBM) Rules Revised: 15 Mar 95 WHAT IS THE CBM CONFERENCE: This conference is a friendly meeting place for owners and users of Commodore Business Machines 8-bit hardware, including the PET, VIC-20, C-64, C-128, C-16, Plus/4, and other Commodore 8-bit CPU computers and peripherals. This conference does NOT support the Commodore Amiga, PC or Colt lines. VALID POSTINGS IN THE CBM CONFERENCE: Messages in the conference shall deal with items of direct interest to owners and users of Commodore 8-bit CPU machines. These may include features, applications (both hardware and software), problems, repairs, discoveries, programming (ML, BASIC, or other languages), modifications, publications, sales or trades of hardware and legally owned software, etc. INVALID POSTINGS IN THE CBM CONFERENCE: Messages that do not fit the above are "Off Topic" and shall not be posted in this echo. When conflict exist, the moderator's best judgement shall prevail. Examples of things that are forbidden in this echo include, but are not limited to, the following. If someone finds a new way to annoy all and sundry, a new category will be added. PIRACY - Discussion of the illegal acquisition of commercial software is forbidden and if flagrant may result in loss of access without warning. PERSONAL ATTACKS (FLAMES) - You may disagree with the viewpoint of other users. Do so politely and without "Ad Hominem" comments. OBSCENITY - Language should be appropriate for the age and gender mix of our participants. EMULATORS - Programs that run on other platforms, even in the attempt to copy the operation of the Commodores, are "Off Topic" here. ALIAS'S / HANDLES - This is a "Real Name Only" echo. If you must use an alias or handle in the From: field, then you must sign each post with your real name. This should only be considered a temporary expedient. PERSONAL (CHAT) MESSAGES - Personal messages, not remotely related with Commodore computers, are "Off Topic". THINGS TO WATCH: Some things that require watching to reduce unnecessary volume in the echo and cost to the participating System Operators are: TAGLINES - A single tagline of less than 80 characters may be used. Control characters (below CHR$(32) are forbidden. Do NOT discuss taglines here. QUOTAHOLISM - Please DO quote enough to clarify what your message is about. Please DO NOT quote whole messages or the lines on the end of the message which do not refer directly to your reply. GRAPHIC SIGNATURES, borders and other characters which unnecessarily add to the bulk of your post are discouraged. MODERATION: The moderator will usually reply to violations thru the echo itself. This is due primarily to the large number of Commodore users who do not have access to netmail and is not intended to insult or embarrass any participant. If you receive a reminder, you may reply in the echo or by netmail to the address below. Other users shall not respond to "Official" communications between the moderator and a user. The Moderator is also a participant in this echo. Official post will be signed "The Moderator". Post without the official signature may be treated as you would treat a post by any participant. WHO IS THE CONFERENCE MODERATOR: At the time of the posting of this document the moderator is - Russell Prater - (1:3608/5) -=- QWKRR128 V4.32 [R] --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.3H1e * Origin: Computer Country * P.C. FL * 28.8K * 904-769-9431 @ (1:3608/5) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 127 (original); 173 (database) From: Myke Carter Subject: Insider? Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 17:55:00 I've a friend who just bought a C64 for US$2.00. On it's topside just below the shift and C= keys is a little aluminum-like adhesive-adhered sticker plate thingy that says: INSIDER ONE-MEG RAM What in the world is that? Myke mykec@delphi.com --- (C) 1996 * Origin: Big Dreams CEC (918)835-6347 C= Support. Tulsa, OK (1:170/609) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-ReplyTo-No: 173 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 135 (original); 197 (database) From: Gary Ranchuk To: Sjoerd Schaafsma Subject: Re: Device Settings Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 16:34:00 SS> This looks like the info you'll be wanting. SS> SS> I think the credits go to Gil Parrish and Jim Brain for the original SS> posts. Thanx to all...! :) --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: The Trading Post ][ 519-974-2976 (1:246/109) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 128 (original); 174 (database) From: Myke Carter To: Russell Prater Subject: Steredit Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 17:58:00 -> I don't know about that, but you can pick up STEREDIT.ARC from this -> BBS. Just logon as Commodore Caller and use cbm as the password for -> immediate access. -> -> * Origin: Computer Country * P.C. FL * 28.8K * 904-769-9431 @ Um, ok, I will give that a shot. Thanks! I think what I am asking about is a Stereo SID Editor package that was a Compute!'s Gazette-related thing. The software came with a book. Are you not familiar with that to which I am referring? I think I called CMD about a year to a year-and-a-half ago and they gave me the number to call Parsec to get it. I never did, though. I think the whole thing sold for something like $25. It's difficult to ask about something that I do know exists when I don't know what it's called. --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: HyperMail! - Feel the *Power* (1:170/817) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-ReplyTo-No: 174 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 130 (original); 176 (database) From: Myke Carter To: Russell Prater Subject: Steredit Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 11:52:00 -> but you can pick up STEREDIT.ARC from this BBS. Just logon as -> Commodore Caller and use cbm as the password for immediate access. Hey Russell! I called and got this file as well as several others yesterday. This is definitely the software I was inquiring about, although it is clearly explained in the "documentation" that in order to learn how to use the software fully you must have a copy of the book and disk that goes with it which sells for $24.95 and is available via Dr. Evil Laboratories. This is what I already was aware of in the beginning. I know that the book and disk I am hunting for is now being distributed via another company, and I believe it is Parsec. How do I contact them? Or is Parsec now out of business too? Perhaps I have the company wrong and it's not Parsec that I need to call at all. Any confirmations on this would be very helpful. Um, I downloaded the GoDot demo too. Fantastic stuff! Although, I was under the impression that it also had features to create new images instead of just modify already existing ones. I really like the foresight employed in their decision to "modulize" the package, so that it's capabilities can be expanded as time marches on. And to be able to use my CMD SmartTrack for something besides just GEOS is great! I've seen one other GUI-based software item for the C64 before GoDot and think both of them just look absolutely great in all their 40-column glory! Very impressive! Now the big question is, how do we get the real thing and not just the demo - what's this about it being on a CD-ROM? (Guess I'll have to pay a visit to my dad and persuade him to copy its contents to a bunch of floppies before cranking up the ol' Big Blue Reader, huh?!) The "documenation" again indicates that the real documentation and tutorial information for GoDot is available in past issues of 64er. How in the world does one go about getting back issues of that? I think the marketing of this program is a little screwy. I guess just using the real thing is a sure indicator that whoever uses it really wanted it - 'cuz if you don't you certainly aren't going to go through the trouble of trying to get it at all! Myke mykec@delphi.com --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: HyperMail! - Feel the *Power* (1:170/817) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 129 (original); 175 (database) From: Myke Carter Subject: YKYACJW Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 18:03:00 You know you're a Commodore Junkie when... Your new book of checks begins with #1501 and to you that means check numbers 1541, 1571 and 1581 are "just around the corner." :-) mykec@delphi.com --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: HyperMail! - Feel the *Power* (1:170/817) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 133 (original); 179 (database) From: Mark Alley To: Russell Prater Subject: Off topic Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 16:31:00 Hi Russell.. Yeah, I agree on that subject. Technically C= 'puters use LD. While I have you here...(and to get back on topic) I think I found a way to make a dual keyboard setup like I asked you about. (will send details later if it works..) L8R... Mark Alley ... Guts (n): Putting the moderator in your "twit filter". *]:-) --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Chipper Clipper * Bradenton, Fl * 941-745-5677 * (1:137/2.0) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 134 (original); 180 (database) From: David Veatch To: Margie Weller Subject: DESTERM, et al Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 17:24:00 Hi Margie, On 25 Jul'96, Margie Weller said to David Veatch about DESTERM: MW> David Schmoll suggested that too, but we both found out that a MW> quirk of Nyx (our local ISP) is that when we go offline to change MW> the &I register Nyx won't let us back online again! I tried it MW> many times and it just won't work. David uses Dialogue and MW> doesn't have the same uploading problems but he did try the MW> routine you described, because I couldn't get it to work, and his MW> experience on Nyx was the same as mine. Harumph. Well, it seems there are about three possible solutions to your problem: (1) Get a copy of Dialogue, (2) wait until Desterm v3.00 comes out, or (3) order a copy of NovaTerm 9.6 - but I may have thought up a fourth option. Ask David Schmoll is FRITZTERM would work for you. FritzTerm is a C-64 program that runs in 80 column mode on the 128. If it will work with your hardware, it just might be what you need. I've not tried it out, but perhaps David Schmoll has - and maybe he can tell you more about it. I'll search through my disks for a copy and read through the docs. If it can use the SwiftLink, then you'll be all set. I have two modems plugged into my 128 - one via the SwiftLink and the other via the USER port (the one on the left in the rear of the computer). That one is connected by a RS232 interface to my 2400 baud modem. This could be another alternate possiblilty for you - to get an interface like that and use it with a 2400 baud modem and Desterm. It would definitely solve your uploading problems! MW> I already use two Desterm function key files for login information MW> and UNIX shell commands when I am on Nyx uploading and downloading MW> QWKRR's mail packets. David Schmoll helped me get the semi - MW> automated process set up and it normally works very well, allowing MW> me to do the transfers and be off again in 1 l/2 to 3 minutes. He MW> has Dialogue totally automated to do the same thing with scripts, MW> but I think that would take some of the fun out of it . I agree with YOU! Both Dialogue and Telix (the term I use on my PC) have that scripting capability, but I prefer NOT to avail myself of it! For my use, I prefer to do the logging in process personally, instead of having the computer do it. It gives me more control over the log-on at any given attempt. Scripts are too "iffy" for my tastes, and they take so long to write and de-bug. It's very simple to just call up a bbs, and use a couple of function keys to send my name & password. DV> What I have to do is to port my REPs over DV> to my PC using Big Blue Reader DV> and then upload them using Zmodem on the DOS machine. MW> MW> And you prefer your problems to mine? I'm not sure I would want to MW> trade. :-D It's really quite easy, Margie. After I create my REP packet, QWKRR resets the computer, which brings up Mr. Schmoll's EZ-Loader program. I just cursor down to the entry for "Big Blue Reader" - the program that copies files to/from PC disks. It's very quick to copy the REP from my RamLink to a DOS disk. Then, the next time I log onto the appropriate bbs - a day or two later - I just upload my replies from that DOS disk, using the PC. I'll bet it's less work and frustration. DV> BTW, this bbs is run on an Amiga-2000. MW> MW> It is true, isn't it, that Amiga BBSes are known to be a problem in MW> file transfers with "our computers"? I haven't had any experience MW> with them. Yeah, the whole process copying the REP over to the DOS disk would be eliminated - if I could only get the Amiga bbs to accept my uploads when I call in with the 128. :-( Drat! DV> Geez, I wish you lived close by here. DV> I've got a spare RamLink that I DV> am not using at present. MW> Where do you live? I'm packing to move!! Warren - just North of Detroit - I'm a half a mile from the General Motors Technical Center. Let me know when you get moved in! MW> Haha..... well, I appreciate the thought anyhow. If you you had MW> neither Ramlink nor FD-2000 drive and nothing but a basic C128 MW> system, which would you buy first - and why? I do get exasperated MW> sometimes with my lack of a way to manage large files. If you already own a 1581, I don't think an FD-2000 would be the way to go. The RamLink would be LOTS better. Reasons as follows: MW> For example, yesterday for some unknown reason, my Fido packet was MW> 1446 blocks, containing only the CBM and CBM 128 echos, and a few MW> personal messages, dating back into May! My point is the zipped MW> packet is too big for the 1571, and the dissolved packet would MW> be too much for the 1581 disk. With a 4-meg RamLink and Desterm v2.01 - you could download these really large QWK packets right to the RL, losing none of it due to size constraints, and you could un-Zip it into your QWKRR partition, again losing none of your CBM nor personal messages, and you'd still have lots of room left for replies. If you can see your way to saving up the money for a RamLink, it would be the best thing you could possibly do for your 128 sytem, IMHO. It's the best addition I've made to my C= setup since I got it in 1986!! MW> Didn't Jean Parrot say once that he used an REU with QWKie?! Guess MW> I'll have to have another look at the manual and see if that would MW> work. The occasional challenge of overcoming a balky upload with MW> Desterm doesn't bother me much, but THIS.....@#*~!$ QWKie is a great little program for the 64, but QWKRR is better due to the clarity of the 80 column screen. Again, a RamLink would be the best solution to your situation - that and Dialogue! MW> Our club had more than 600 members at one time, I am told, but now MW> we are down to about three dozen. In fact, we were down to about MW> 25 and now membership is back up to that. Maybe our club should MW> have been more flexible! I just got a newsletter in the mail today from the other computer club that I belong to - DKUG - and they have had such a steady decline in membership that DKUG and MCUG are merging! MCUG now has about 250 members, so this oughta up it by 100-200, hopefully. Most present members of MCUG have PC's, though, but still quite a few C= diehards, and Amigas too. MW> I am fond of SID music, and have had my C64 playing many of them MW> today while I'm busy here on the C128. I really got into the C=64 music when it was popular. I've got about thirty double sided 1541 disks (60 disk sides) of various types of music for the 64, the SIDs and the "Magic Music Box" songs that you play by loading them in ,8,1 and SYS30120 to make them play (or there was a player program like SIDPLAY that you could select songs from). I've got my computer hooked up to my stereo system. The SIDs sound WAY better coming out of large speakers versus the little 3-inch one in most computer monitors. The parts to do this are all readily available at your local Radio Shack - only a few dollars. Let me know if you want details - I wrote an article about how to do it for our club newsletter, The Sprite. MW> Thanks, David, for your kind offer! I MW> can never go long without a need MW> for computer advice, so you'll be hearing from me. :-) Looking forward to it, Margie! Have a good week, and I'll catch you again next time. Adios for now, amiga! Cheers! David (Signing off at 18:17) ... Daddy, what does "FORMATTING RAMLink" mean? ... QWKRR128 V4.32 [R] --- DlgQWK v0.71a/PDQMail v2.60 * Origin: EastPointe Amiga (EastPointe,Mi) ADS STAR & Z1C (1:120/229) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-ReplyTo-No: 180 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 149 (original); 211 (database) From: Myke Carter To: Peter Karlsson Subject: S.A.M. Date: Wed, 31 Jul 96 14:32:00 Thank you for the info on S.A.M. although I'm really most curious about what the S.A.M. documentation has to say about planting certain values in the middles of words to alter pitch etc. during the execution of a "speaking program" like what is supplied with S.A.M. for the purpose of demonstration. If you examine the contents of the S.A.M. demo programs, you will find numbers embedded within the "spoken" segments they contain. How is it that when I run a S.A.M. demo, those values seem to heighten the realism of the speech by affecting S.A.M.'s voice in various ways, although when I put numbers in the middles of the words in my own programs, S.A.M. speaks the numbers as if I'd spelled them out. I would love to purchase a complete S.A.M. package - original disk and docs - but, if you are not interested in selling yours, could you at least send me a photocopy of the docs? I could send you an SASE first. mykec@delphi.com --- (C) 1996 * Origin: Big Dreams CEC (918)835-6347 C= Support. Tulsa, OK (1:170/609) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 135 (original); 181 (database) From: Jeff Udenberg To: Diane Sholly Subject: NOVATERM 9.5 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 22:25:00 Hello Diane, DS> Hi I just got Novaterm 9.5 in the mail. I DS> am not sure how to use it. Could DS> someone who has used Novaterm please help. If you have he disk that I sent, you will find that to load novaterm all you have to do is type: load "*",8,1 This will load novaterm and bring up a menu, select auto dial, then return. There are directions in this mode that are self explainitory. either add your own BBS #'s or select one that I have entered for you. I have set this prg up for your convienance and 80 col emulation. I hope that you have made a copy and made any changes to the copy..Do Not USE the original!! This way you will always have a back up and also I will be able to help..... If you are still haveing problems....Let me know what type of hardware you are using, modem, drives, ect, and I will show you a setup that will work for you....... Hope this helps...... Docs are on the backside side b... Later, Jeff U pln5970@montana.com ... System error, strike any user to continue... /\/ QWKRR128 V4.32 [R] --- EDorQWK 0.05a/Squish * Origin: Commodore Central BBS (CUGKC) - (1:280/364.0) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 136 (original); 182 (database) From: Sjoerd Schaafsma To: Gary Ranchuk Subject: Re: Question... Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 10:36:00 Howdy Gary GR> Q-1. Who knows how to change the device numbers for the SFD GR> 100I Drives? I do. GR> Q-2. What is the default number of the SFD? Is it #8 ( I have GR> an IEEE FLASH) it is 8 GR> Q-3. How do I change the device number for the 8050 Drives? GR> (include device number & pin {jumper} settings). coming up in next message Use switches to make them configurable, then you can use whichever drive as whatever number whenever you figure out or remember what the settings were. GR> Q-4. How can you go beyond Device #15 on the Commodore 64 GR> computer? ( in the IEE Flash manual it says that the IEE GR> handles from Device #12 to Device #31 automaticly) Haven't figured this one out yet, other than to use a CMD device. GR> See I have two 1541 drives (device #8 & device #9). I want to GR> keep Device #10 open ("IF" I can find a CBM hard drive {ei. GR> 9060 or 9090}). Then I have two 8050 Drives & three SFD GR> drives. I want to hook them all up together. Sjoerd ... You can multi-task on C-64s. Keep a multitude of them! --- RA2.5/FD2.20/GEcho * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS (403)327-9731 Lethbridge,AB,Canada (1:358/1) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 137 (original); 183 (database) From: Sjoerd Schaafsma To: Gary Ranchuk Subject: Ieee drive codes Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 10:42:00 Sorry Gary, this is not the file I thought it was, but it looks useful anyway. I'll look a bit further. thank Sylvia Carruthers for this one. Same: Directory-File Header format and BAM format and the directory -sector format in the 4040 (directory blocks- track 18 sector 01 to 18) sure sounds familiar *grin* even the "sector distribution by track" is the same. Memory locations and the "user command Jump table" are different however. In case of disk drive errors the diagnostics chart for the 4040 goes like this (according to the T Book): Num of Flashes | Error Cause | Component, Location 1 | Zero Page | 6532, C1, E1 2 | Rom | H1 3 | Rom | L1 4 | Rom | J1 5 | Zero Page | 6530, K3; 6504, H3 6 | n/a | n/a 7 | Ram | 2114, D4, D5 8 | Ram | 2114, E4, E5 9 | Ram | 2114, F4, F5 10 | ROM | 6530, K3; 6504, H3 The Jump Table (you are planning to program your drives a few times *grin*> Standard | Alternate | Function Syntax | (1541 n/a) | ------------------------------------------------------------------ U0 | | Reset User Jump Vector U1 | UA | Block-Read replacement U2 | UB | Block-Write replacement U3 | UC | Jump to $1300 U4 | UD | Jump to $1303 U5 | UE | Jump to $1306 U6 | UF | Jump to $1309 U7 | UG | Jump to $130C U8 | UH | Jump to $130F U9 | UI | Jump to $10F0 U: | UJ | Power-Up Vector (reset) TS> 4. Can I get the pin-outs for the cable anywhere, so I can build TS> one? hmmmm a diagram on page 98 gives this as a pinout: IEEE Connectors Pins ------------------------- | o | ||^^^^----____ | || ^^^^--____| || || DIO1 |[ 1 ] [ 13 ]| DIO5 DIO2 |[ 2 ] [ 14 ]| DIO6 DIO3 |[ 3 ] [ 15 ]| DIO7 DIO4 |[ 4 ] [ 16 ]| DIO8 EOI |[ 5 ] [ 17 ]| REN DAV |[ 6 ] [ 18 ]| DAV Ground NRFD |[ 7 ] [ 19 ]| NRFD Ground NDAC |[ 8 ] [ 20 ]| NDAC Ground IFC |[ 9 ] [ 21 ]| IFC Ground SRQ |[ 10 ] [ 22 ]| SRQ Ground ATN |[ 11 ] [ 23 ]| ATN Ground Shield/ |[ 12 ] [ 24 ]| Signal Ground Earth Ground || || || _____----^^^^| ||____---^^ | | o | |-----------------------| That may be what you are seeking.. Or at least one end of the cable. Sjoerd Schaafsma - An occasional 8 bit holdout ... You can multi-task on C-64s. Keep a multitude of them! --- RA2.5/FD2.20/GEcho * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS (403)327-9731 Lethbridge,AB,Canada (1:358/1) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 138 (original); 184 (database) From: Sjoerd Schaafsma To: Gary Ranchuk Subject: Device Settings Date: Sun, 28 Jul 96 10:54:00 Howdy again Gary, This looks like the info you'll be wanting. I think the credits go to Gil Parrish and Jim Brain for the original posts. To change device numbers on an SFD-1001: 1: Open the case. 2: Make sure the circuit board is P/N 251203 3: On the corner of the board nearest the power switch, find two MOS chips numbered 901887-01 and 901888-01. 4: Rotate the unit so that the chip numbers are face up and readable left to right, and near the lower right corner of 901888-01, find silkscreened onto the board a square divided in thirds with the legend "124" above it. 5: (On my unit, anyway...) the solder and solder pads are messy looking. Try to clean it up. 6: Follow this diagram- + means uncut or connected, = means cut: Jumper labeled: 4 2 1 Device 8: + + + Device 9: + + = Device 10: + = + Device 11: + = = Device 12: = + + Device 13: = + = Device 14: = = + Device 15: = = = 7: Optionally mount a 3-member DIP switch on the case (the lower right corner of the front face of the top half looks good) and run six wires to the six pads. 8: Put the unit back together. re 8050 rewiring RA> please. I have an 8050, a 2031, and a 4040. I have been using RA> any two of the drives. My question is; "how do I configure > any RA> of the drives to be device #9 or any thing other than #8"? open the case by removing 1 screw on both sides near the frount of the drive. open case by flipping top back, the top is hinged.. look for a 40 pin IC at UE1. with the heatsink away from you it is in the lower left of the m/b, second 40 pin ic up, on the top side of the IC, (pins 22-24) you will find 3 pads just like in the 1541,cut the trace or traces, pin24 gives 8+1, pin23 is 8+2, pin22 is 8+4, giving devicenumbers 8-15.. Sjoerd Schaafsma - An occasional 8 bit holdout ... No thanks, I already have a Nagila. --- RA2.5/FD2.20/GEcho * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS (403)327-9731 Lethbridge,AB,Canada (1:358/1) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-ReplyTo-No: 184 (There are no more replies.) X-Message-No: 143 (original); 189 (database) From: Gil Parrish To: Sjoerd Schaafsma Subject: Device Settings Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 12:09:00 SS> This looks like the info you'll be wanting. SS> I think the credits go to Gil Parrish and Jim Brain for the SS> original posts. SS> To change device numbers on an SFD-1001: Probably just Jim Brain; I'm certainly not technical enough to know this stuff! --- (C) 1996 * Origin: Big Dreams CEC (918)835-6347 C= Support. Tulsa, OK (1:170/609) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 141 (original); 187 (database) From: Brett Tabke To: REECE ISAAC Subject: JIFFYDOS&QUICKSILVER128 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 96 01:02:00 Hi Reece; RI> I've fianlly got the IEEE equipped plotter to work with a 128. RI> The only thing is that it was not my 128 that it worked with. I've RI> been loaned a flat 128 equipped with Quicksiler 128. I have a 128d RI> equipped with Jiffydos. Now I believe that the QS has a replacement RI> kernal (ep)rom ala JDos. Is it possible to get the two to reside RI> together, perhaps by relocating the Quicksilver code to and eprom that RI> goes into the spare socket or am I stuck with non JDos machine when I RI> wish to use my plotter? I've done quite a bit of Flash playing (built cartridge, disassembled eprom...) and both the Jdos code and Flash code reside in the former cassette routines location in the kernal. I've looked high and low in the kernal for some room to do what you suggest, but there just isn't enough to spare for both Jdos and Flash to wedge in. I haven't pursued it any further, but what I was thinking of doing, was putting the flash routines on a eprom for the internal function rom socket. Seems like it would work, but would require some tricky bank switching during most of the Flash access's. RI> Is there some other way of getting the plotter to run with a Rl> JDos machine? Any ideas? There is a serial interface called E-Link IEEE that works off the serial port. I don't know how it responds to Jdos, but it requires no software or modification to the 128. It is very slow (serial speed). I'll dig and see if mine still works or if it is just the 64 version ( they switched roms for the 128 version.). The whole thing is just a serial cord into a Vic 20 cartridge a power supply cord, and an IEEE cable. It has a 6502, 6520 I/O, ram, rom to do the translation from serial to ieee. Brett ... phdss@worf.netins.net --- JMail-H 2.80d * Origin: 221B Baker St * Ft Walton Beach FL * 904-862-8643 (1:366/221.0) X-SystemInfo: Buyers Review: Cbm X-Message-No: 142 (original); 188 (database) From: Brett Tabke To: John Finlay Subject: SFD Date: Fri, 26 Jul 96 01:14:00 JF> Is this a sign of old age or is the thing gone on a JF> disk-assasinating spree? Sure sounds like it over heated. SFD's are more prone to overheating than even 41's. When they do over heat, you get random unreproduceable errors. Been my experience that most SFD's should have a cooling fan on them. If you don't have a small 3inch fan, I suggest the old trick of taking 4 new pencils, cutting them cleanly at about 3 inches, and sticking them (eraser first) into the recessed