#! rnews 1247 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!newshub.csu.net!usc!news.cerf.net!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news. po mona.edu!osiris.ac.hmc.edu!omitchel From: omitchel@osiris.ac.hmc.edu (Ocie Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: stack & ML Date: 30 Jun 1996 21:42:28 GMT Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA USA Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4r6sc4$osn@epcot.pomona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: osiris.ac.hmc.edu I am reviving my C64 and I want to do some ML programming on it. I noticed that the stack is limited to 256 bytes. Is anyone aware of a way to extend this stack? I.E. can I set up an interrupt service handler that gets called when the stack overflows or underflows so I can swap in/out more stack space from the rest of the memory. Also, is the 256 byte stack the limitation I'm thinking it is? Thanks for any help and happy computing to all. Ocie Mitchell -- \O {Ocie Mitchell (omitchel@hmc.edu) | Go unics, go UNIX! | LINUX | GNU } O |--{"Momma always said 'life is like a free operatin' system | Free space}_/|\ |> {you never know what you're gonna get'" | "Parser, I hardly know her" } <| (*)_________________________________________________________________________(*) #! rnews 3339 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!gti.gti.net!apollo.gti.net!c128user From: "Glenn P.," Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: what is a .sfx???? Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:10:19 -0400 Organization: GTI -- GlobalNet Telecom Incorporated. For information call 1-(201)-285-9099 or E-Mail . Lines: 44 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <4r24iv$c6c@omnifest.uwm.edu> Reply-To: "Glenn P.," NNTP-Posting-Host: apollo.gti.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4r24iv$c6c@omnifest.uwm.edu> Return-Path: "Glenn P.," X-Receipt-To: "Glenn P.," Receipt-To: "Glenn P.," X-Gibberish: The Elephant says "Tusk, tusk!". Contents: Reply To Usenet Post. Expiration: 31-Jul-1996 Precedence: Normal Priority: Normal On 28-Jun-1996, Andrew R. McInnis wrote: > i recently got a commodore modem and everything i see to download > is a .sfx or a .lha file I don't know about the ".lha" but I *can* explain about the ".sfx". See, to save space and time when sending large files, people use something called COMPRESSION SOFTWARE. This converts large files into small ones by encrypting the data. The resulting file is smaller, but quite unusable as is; the person who *gets* the file needs a copy of the same compression program so that he can uncompress the file back to its original state. Problem is, not everyone HAS a given compressor (there are several out there). So the ".sfx" was born. An ".sfx" is a compressed file with a short ML program attached to it so that when it is RUN, it will decompress ITSELF! To use a ".sfx", first load it. Then take out your current disk and insert a freshly-formatted disk, one with nothing on it. Then type RUN. You will usually get a short introductory screen and will be asked to press RETURN when ready. With the new disk in your drive, do just that -- press RETURN. The files in the ".sfx" will be saved to -- the technical term is "dissolved" to -- your disk. When you get a "ready." prompt, everything is finished! ;) Two notes: ".sfx" files will work on EITHER a C64 OR a C128. There are also ".sda" files; these will ONLY work on one or the other -- and usually only the C64 -- but not both. Otherwise, though, ".sda" files work exactly like ".sfx" files. Hope this helps clarify things for you. Good Luck, and Happy Modemming! ;) --_____ {~._.~} "There are a hundred ways in which a boy can injure -- if not _( Y )_ not indeed kill -- himself. The more advennturous he is and the (:_~*~_:) greater his initiative, the more ways he will find. If you protect (_)-(_) him from each of the hundred, he is sure to find the hundred-and- ========= first. Though most men can look back on their boyhood and tremble ========= at the narrowness of some of their escapes, most boys do in fact W.T.P. survive, more or less intact, and the wise father is the trusting ========= father." ===================================== :: --= Glenn P. =-- :: --"The Enchanted Places", Chapter 21, :: c128user@GTI.Net :: By: Christopher Robin Milne. #! rnews 769 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech! news.fsu.edu!xi!duncan From: duncan@xi.cs.fsu.edu (Robert Duncan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: INFOCOM GAMES wanted Date: 30 Jun 1996 22:30:57 GMT Organization: FSU Computer Science Department Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4r6v71$pn8@news.fsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: xi.cs.fsu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello: Im in the process of purchasing a 128 and was wondering, anyone out there got lots of the old infocom games? Id be interested in any of them..alwasy loved those text adventures. ALSO, wasnt there some 128 only adventures? Like beyond Zork? Finally, what is the copywright status of them, can they be copied legally or not? Thanks Robewrt Duncan duncan@xi.cs.fsu.edu #! rnews 1085 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!malgudi.oar.net!news.ysu.edu!yfn.ysu.edu!aa363 From: aa363@yfn.ysu.edu (Jacob Huebert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS: Commodore Stuff Date: 30 Jun 1996 22:57:34 GMT Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH Lines: 22 Message-ID: <4r70ou$im3@news.ysu.edu> Reply-To: aa363@yfn.ysu.edu (Jacob Huebert) NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu Yesterday I posted a list of stuff up for auction. I've deleted that post and have decided to sell the stuff to the best offer instead. So the best reasonable offer will take any of the following: 1 Commodore 64 computer 1 1541 disk drive 1 Epyx Fast Load 4 C64 power supplies 1 Atari 65XE computer (untested) 1 power supply for TI computer "The Goonies" - game by Datasoft "Test Drive" - game by Accolade "Bulldog" - game by Epyx (with ins.) "Last Duel" - game by Capcom (with ins.) "Bop 'n Wrestle" - game by Mindscape "Skate Rock" - game by Sharedata "Snapdragon/Cave Fighter" - games by Sharedata -- Jacob Huebert aa363@yfn.ysu.edu #! rnews 1666 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!spartacus.hula. net !jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Action Replay 5 help needed Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:57:59 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <31d475bb.2011733@news.cei.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: sparks@cei.net In-Reply-To: <31d475bb.2011733@news.cei.net> I dont have a extra book, but you must have looked at your cartridges menus by now and seen many of the things it can do. If not try looking at them. The buttun on the right as you look at it is the reset button, the button on your left is the "freeze" button. Try pushing on them and see what screen tells you, then if you have specific questions about it send me a msg and will try answer for you. It is essentially a cartridge much like the SuperSnapshot cartridge V5 in that it has builtin fast loaders, file copiers, disk copiers, and snapshotting capabilities. I/E you can load a heavily protected disk and after you reach the first menu (usually) push the left button and it freezes and bypasses the protection in one fell swoop, then just follow the screen instructions and it will save the unprotected file to a disk in a single file which you can then use in devices like RamLink, CMD hard drives, QBB (quick brown boxes), PPI boxes etc. ***** kilroy ***** #! rnews 1164 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!spartacus.hula. net !jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Lynx queston - ALT does trick Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:08:57 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <4pv8rt$661@coconut.epix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Bill Marcum In-Reply-To: On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Bill Marcum wrote: why dont you try srtty Thats the problem Bill. The server has me locked out from doing those direct cmds such as setrev, man -k, etc. The only cmd I can use there is the ls cmd and that dont help much but will keep trying. **** kilroy **** #! rnews 1228 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!spartacus.hula. net !jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Where is DAVID JANSEN Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:18:52 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <4r3ejd$bjb@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Thomas Benton In-Reply-To: <4r3ejd$bjb@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> David writes stuff for loadstar so send email to Jeff at loadstar email address which is Jeff@Loadstar.com. They will give you info on how to reach David direct. He wrote "Daves Term" which is possibly the most complete term program ever written for the C128. Its even got builtin zip and unzip extensions, and is on a parallel with Dialogue and Desterm in other aspects. His program had to be put on (3) 1581 disks it sook up so much room. Think It started with 128 Disk issue # 27. ***** kilroy ***** #! rnews 1012 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!spartacus.hula. net !jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Maybe A Virus? Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:22:42 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <4r3gvb$k5q@twizzler.callamer.com> <4r4dja$3cs@nnrp1.news.primenet. com> NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Ryan Farisslaw In-Reply-To: <4r4dja$3cs@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Ryan thats right!. Dont think your gonna find virus getting into the CBM kernals. Of course its probably possible to get a virus on a disk or HD, but it probably wont work like it is supposed to and do nasty things like it does on IBM's and MAC's. ***** kilroy ***** #! rnews 1200 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!spartacus.hula. net !jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: what is a .sfx???? Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:26:36 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <4r24iv$c6c@omnifest.uwm.edu> <476.6754T613T2400@gromit.inka.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Stephan Kleinert In-Reply-To: <476.6754T613T2400@gromit.inka.de> Stephan. If its a file ending with .sfx, just load and run it on your 128. (its intended for c128 mode not 64). If its lha, its probably lharc (the tool that creates .sfx self disolving files), and to use lharc you must have a 1750 REU plugged in at the time you boot up. Again if file name ends with .sfx just run it and it will dissolve itself and give you all the files in your dir that were originally part of a total program list. ***** kilroy ***** #! rnews 1440 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps. oh io-state.edu!freenet.columbus.oh.us!not-for-mail From: hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Harold Stevens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: HELP!!! Cant't get GEOS to work!! Date: 30 Jun 1996 19:43:20 -0400 Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4r73eo$qh8@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <31CB3A48.2BAE@prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: login.freenet.columbus.oh.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Evil Eye (evileye@ripco.com) wrote: : I hope I'm not mistaken but I think the 64C needs an updated version of Geos. : My brother LONG ago got a 64 and had some problems with the Geos disks. They : sent him new ones along with a Geos disk for the 64C. He didn't need it but I : guess You need a different disk for the 64C. I hope this helps. No you don't need the newer version of GEOS with the 64C. My 64C came with V 1.3 of GEOS and worked perfectly. However there is the possibility that some of the disks were corrupted before they were put in the box at the Commodore factory. --Harold -- Internet addresses: hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us h.stevens@genie.com hg350@cleveland.freenet.edu #! rnews 1180 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!freenet. co lumbus.oh.us!not-for-mail From: hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Harold Stevens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: 1581 problems Date: 30 Jun 1996 19:49:50 -0400 Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4r73qu$rug@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: login.freenet.columbus.oh.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Kungfushi@f103.n3407.z1.fidonet.org wrote: : What is the name of the program that unscratches 1581 files and where : is it located at? There is an excellent disk utility program called "Omega-Q" or "Omega-Q II" that has the unscratch feature among its disk command application. Look around some of the ftp sites and see if you can located it, as this was one of the great utilities put out by Q-Link before it went down several years ago. --Harold -- Internet addresses: hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us h.stevens@genie.com hg350@cleveland.freenet.edu #! rnews 776 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news2.epix.net!xy3951 From: xy3951@news.epix.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Sword of Kadash Date: 30 Jun 1996 23:41:33 GMT Organization: epix.net Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4r73bd$8c4@star.epix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plum.epix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Yes you are correct, it was published by Penguin Software in 1984, 1985 by Dynamix (a small software copany that actually wrote SOK but Penguin published, and Dynamix is still around on the "other" platorms). You might try Software Support at 616-428-9096, that is where I got my copy. There address is: 3563 S Cleveland AV, PO Box 930, St. Joseph, MI 49085. Hope this helps. Dan Barber #! rnews 1087 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!spartacus.hula. net !jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C= On the 'Net Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:41:07 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Richard Trissel In-Reply-To: Dick. Dont forget that servers who have upgraded to PINE v3.9 can put your usegroup read and all usegroups right into your mailbox so you dont need to ever leave PINE for anything except FTP, and or BROWSERS such as LYNX to access the www. ***** kilroy ***** (This is what I am doing right this second. Posting to comp.sys.cbm) #! rnews 1242 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!spartacus.hula. net !jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: 1581 HD or DD Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:46:47 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Lonnie McClure In-Reply-To: Well that last explanation was highly analytic, but absolutely true as to writing to 1581 HD disks. I have been lucky I guess and have saved bucks by buying the HD 3.5" disks. Here locally the DD disks now cost about $1 more for a ten pack as compared to the HD 10 pack. Who cares about the $1 not me but if you decide to swap empty disks with somebody for "swapware", just try giving him a DD disk and watch him sneer and groan "Hey I cant use those" %%&$$##??** ***** kilroy ***** #! rnews 2686 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news. eng.convex.com!newshost.convex.com!newsgate.duke.edu!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed. internetmci.com!act.news.telstra.net!nsw.news.telstra.net!asstdc.scgt.oz.au! metro!metro!seagoon.newcastle.edu.au!usenet From: "Bruce R. McFarling" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: stack & ML Date: 30 Jun 1996 23:46:10 GMT Organization: Department of Economics, University of Newcastle Lines: 65 Message-ID: <4r73k2$6hq@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> References: <4r6sc4$osn@epcot.pomona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: econ70.newcastle.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) omitchel@osiris.ac.hmc.edu (Ocie Mitchell) wrote: > I am reviving my C64 and I want to do some ML programming on it. > I noticed that the stack is limited to 256 bytes. Is anyone aware > of a way to extend this stack? I.E. can I set up an interrupt > service handler that gets called when the stack overflows or > underflows so I can swap in/out more stack space from the rest > of the memory. Also, is the 256 byte stack the limitation I'm > thinking it is? Notice that CBM decided "Oh, we don't want to waste a whole 256 bytes on the *stack*," and put extra stuff low in page 1. That's not an uncommon 6502 ML attitude, actually. It's not like the stack in C, for instance, since you would not keep a lot of local data on the hardware stack. If it is only used as a temporary store for registers and for subroutine execution, then it's pretty big: storing A, X, Y, the state (P), *and* the subroutine return vector is only 6 bytes, which makes it more than 40 calls deep (except for maybe that stuff low in page 1). Software stacks: either the X or the Y register give you a 'software stack' that can be set up in a dedicated section of memory to handle multi-byte data, and this can be 256 *stack cells* deep: for example, to pop a 4-byte value from a 256 x 4byte stack: lda b0,x sta t0 lda b1,x sta t1 lda b2,x sta t2 lda b3,x sta t3 inx; assuming the stack 'grows' down And with a greater performance hit, a vector in zero page gives you a general 16-bit stack emulated by post-indexed address mode: ; assume this is double-word aligned !!! lda (stack),y sta t0 iny lda (stack),y sta t1 iny lda (stack),y sta t2 iny lda (stack),y sta t3 iny bne + inc stack+1 +... The 6502 does have page limits (oh! for the 16-bit pointer that the 6809 has!), but a rich set of address modes to work around the page limits. Virtually, Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW ecbm@cc.newcastle.edu.au #! rnews 1545 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news2.epix.net!xy3951 From: xy3951@news.epix.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: laptop C64 Date: 1 Jul 1996 00:05:26 GMT Organization: epix.net Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4r74o6$8c4@star.epix.net> References: <4qo85q$6gf@news.bridge.net> <5lLtlqC.novan@delphi.com> <31d210f2.82713126@nntp.noc.netcom.com> <4quaqo$g62@login.freenet.columbus.oh. us> NNTP-Posting-Host: plum.epix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Harold Stevens (hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us) wrote: : George Lin (george.lin@documentum.com) wrote: : : Didn't Commodore make the SX-64, otherwise known as Executive 64--a : : CBM-64 with a 5" color monitor and a 1541 in a luggable case? Why : : build one? : Have you ever sit with an SX-64 in your lap George? After a while it : begins to feel like a concrete cinderblock. :) : --Harold : -- : Internet addresses: hstevens@freenet.columbus.oh.us : h.stevens@genie.com : hg350@cleveland.freenet.edu Agreed, it can be quite heavy at times. But at least it is portable, and if you want battery power, get a 300 or 600 watt inverter and hook it up to a deep-discharge battery, and then you have total protablity (although it is more to luge around, but not too bad if you put it in one of those heavy duty backpacks made for trail blasers with a frame support). :) Dan Barber #! rnews 1057 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news2.epix.net!xy3951 From: xy3951@news.epix.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: WTB: Sword of Kadash Date: 1 Jul 1996 00:10:35 GMT Organization: epix.net Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4r751r$8c4@star.epix.net> References: <4qip52$fdb@news.skylink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plum.epix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Mr. X (mrx@skylink.net) wrote: : I'm looking for a game, "Sword of Kadash" it's fairly old and I think it :was published by : Penguin Software. I'm looking for the full game. Preferably an original on : disk, the way we had it way back when.... :) : -- : ________________________________________________________________________ : (c) 1996 mrx@skylink.net All rights reserved. www.skylink.net/~mrx I replied to this allready, but I accidently sent it as a new article insted of a reply, sorry about that. But it is under the topic of Sword of Kadash. Again sorry about that. :) Dan Barber #! rnews 1682 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas. edu!uwm.edu!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!news. be lwue.de!news.uni-hohenheim.de!jbn From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C= On the 'Net Date: 1 Jul 1996 00:39:24 GMT Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mystery-train.cu-online.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.8.8.3 (BETA) UNIX) On Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:41:07 -1000, Joesph Fenn wrote: > [...] Dont forget that servers who have upgraded to PINE v3.9 can > put your usegroup read and all usegroups right into your mailbox so > you dont need to ever leave PINE for anything except FTP [...] What's a usegroup (you typed it twice)? Why would I want a newsreader that generates the unnecessary and bandwidth-wasting headers on posts where they don't apply? > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > To: Richard Trissel Since there was no MIME content in your post, the MIME and Content-Type headers are unnecessary and only state the default. The To: header has no relevance in Usenet. It is not necessary to let all of Usenet know you e-mailed a copy to someone (it is, on the other hand, optional to let an e-mail receipient you also posted the message, such as I am doing now). -- Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups. #! rnews 1115 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!news.bc.net!nntp.portal.ca!van-bc!van.istar!ott. ist ar!istar.net!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca!abe0084 From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Replace broken keytop? Date: 1 Jul 1996 00:38:46 GMT Organization: St. John's InfoNET Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4r76mm$k8l@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: infonet.st-johns.nf.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I am wondering if it is possible to replace a key that was broken off the keyboard? Where the key was, all there is now is a round little doohickey. The key is the '2', which as a matter of fact is a pretty important key on a 64. ---> no " for LOAD"*",8 Right now it is actually impossible to type anything on it at all. This apparently is because the key is depressed, and stays that way. I stuck a flat toothpick in the round doohickey and then I can pull it up so I can type other keys. Once I pull out the toothpick, the round thing falls down again. - Adam #! rnews 1625 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!act.news.telstra.net!newshost.telstra.net!news.ci.com.au!wabbit. i ts.uow.edu.au!seagoon.newcastle.edu.au!usenet From: "Bruce R. McFarling" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: what is a .sfx???? Date: 30 Jun 1996 23:50:48 GMT Organization: Department of Economics, University of Newcastle Lines: 29 Message-ID: <4r73so$6hq@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> References: <4r24iv$c6c@omnifest.uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: econ70.newcastle.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) "Glenn P.," wrote: >On 28-Jun-1996, Andrew R. McInnis wrote: > >> i recently got a commodore modem and everything i see to download >> is a .sfx or a .lha file > >I don't know about the ".lha" ... Oh, great, a software question. .lha files are the compression format often used in Amiga's, and the early adoption of Amiga's and C64 emulation in Amiga's is one reason you'll find C64 software compressed with lha. As to what to do with them, be more specific, and say what computers you have available (i.e., PC at work, call up to a Unix shell, nothing bigger than a 128, etc.). There's enough people here with enough different set-ups, someone will have done the transfer you want to do. And it might be in the FAQm which will be rolling around in just a little while now. Virtually, Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW ecbm@cc.newcastle.edu.au #! rnews 4770 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!news. mathworks.com!uunet!inXS.uu.net!news.u.washington.edu!carson.u.washington.edu! rrcc From: Raymond Carlsen Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Adding a 1541 reset switch Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:40:23 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Lines: 76 Message-ID: Reply-To: Raymond Carlsen NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Irv Cobb In-Reply-To: > > If you had a 8/9 switch on it, you could throw the switch and > > hit the reset button on the drive to change to the other > > device number without turning the drive off or resetting the > > computer. > This is why. I have need to use more drives than Geos can handle at once > (4), and have trouble reaching around the drives to turn them on/off > because of the way my systems are laid out on my desk. A reset on the > front of the drives, combined with device number switches (already got > 'em, even my '71 has then on the front), would make the process a breeze, > and would feel much higher tech than turning the things on and off. ;) Sound like good reasons! Now, I'll tell you what I've found. In the SX-64, they tap into the reset circuit just ahead of the disk drive microprocessor for the built-in drive reset switch. There is a circuit called a half-monostable which is also used in other 1541s. It is simply a logic gate that is used to ensure a good clean reset pulse hits the micro when the drive is powered up. When a 1541 is first turned on (with or without the computer connected), the half-monostable (also called a one-shot) holds the reset line low for a half second until all voltages stabilize. That's what's happening when the red LED comes on and goes out as the drive is powered up. The best way to add a reset switch to the drive is to use that circuit as the trigger. Implimenting it is a little tricky because there are so many different models of 1541. I've done a bit of "homework" to make it easier... The most common 1541 type, which is to say the most plentiful, uses the PCB #251830 (number stamped on the PC board). It is a medium sized board, housed in the standard brown case, and usually has the Newtronics drive mechanism. Since my schematic shows that board in detail, I'll use that as a guide for locating the spot to connect the switch. The older drive with the ALPS mechanism is similar, fortunately. It uses PCB #1540050, but the parts layout is about the same as far as this modification is concerned. Locate capacitor C-46. It is a 100uF 16Volt electrolytic mounted near the front of the board, about in the middle. It is near IC UD3 and diode CR-7. The drive reset switch will go across the capacitor C-46. That cap is usually mounted with enough of it's leads sticking up that you can solder your two wires underneith it. If you can't get to those solder connections, as an alternative you can use the anode of CR-7 as one lead of your switch, and the negative end of the very large filter capacitor C-17 (left rear of PC board) as the negative end. By the way, don't use the metal chassis as a ground... it's isolated and will not work. To identify the anode of CR-7, examine the diode. Notice a small black band at one end... that is the -cathode- lead. The anode is the other end... it's closer to the front of the drive. When you wire in the momentary-contact pushbutton switch, add a 100 ohm 1/4 or 1/2 watt resistor in series (not across, but in-line with one leg). This is to prevent the discharging of the capacitor into your switch, which may eventually damage the contacts. It also serves to protect the drive electronics in case you connect the switch to the wrong place... it will not work, but it will do no harm. If you have the very old type of 1541 (white case, long board), the capacitor will be C-56, and the diode C-17. They are located near the front left side of the PCB. I don't have a layout for the newest type of drive, the 1541C, so I can't advise you how to connect the switch. They may use different part ID numbers since the board is completely different (short board) from earlier drives. I own a couple of 1541-IIs, but have no schematics. If you need to know how to install a reset switch to one of those, email me back, and I'll see what I can do. NOTE: If you're not sure about something, email me and ask! I'll be glad to help. Better to wait and get it right the first time. Ray Carlsen CARLSEN ELECTRONICS... A leader in trailing-edge technology. #! rnews 1398 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!spartacus.hula. net !jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: DESTERM, SLIP questions... Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:21:11 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <4qmodn$go7@camlaw.rutgers.edu> <4r6j52$a1l@news.inforamp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Geoffrey Welsh In-Reply-To: <4r6j52$a1l@news.inforamp.net> Geoffrey. You have switflink as you said so you must have your cartridge that drives swiftlink. You didnt mention type of MODEM your using but assume it is a BOCA type which will go up to 34.9 kbaud speed with the proper swiftlink cable and cartridge. If all the above is true, then in Desterm try setting your modem speeds starting with 14.4 K and try it. If that works go on up higher to 28.8K, if that works try setting it to "max". Somehow you may be trying to use a higher speed for internet than your system is setup for. Of course if your on a shell/account you can probably start with 2400 baud and see if that works. ***** kilroy ***** #! rnews 998 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd. edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!news.cs.utah.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!svc.slc.uen.org!news From: Mark Enomoto Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Assembler Date: 1 Jul 1996 00:17:56 GMT Organization: Utah Educational Network Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4r75fk$kud@svc.slc.uen.org> References: <4r09s4$s0d@freenet-news.carleton.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: line5.uu.uen.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; Linux 1.3.49 i486) X-URL: news:4r09s4$s0d@freenet-news.carleton.ca df465@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Onno Ebbinge) wrote: > >Are there good cross assemblers on the PC >for the 6510 ? (novaterm is written in one ;-) > >Onno I've been quite satisfied with CASM 1.3. It's available from the author at: http://www.cs.wm.edu/~pbgonz/progc64.html (at least according to the documentation, which is quite good IMHO.) #! rnews 1148 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! gatech!news.fsu.edu!xi!duncan From: duncan@xi.cs.fsu.edu (Robert Duncan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: TRADE 486/25 laptop for Commodore 128 system/partial Date: 1 Jul 1996 01:49:09 GMT Organization: FSU Computer Science Department Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4r7aql$3pk@news.fsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: xi.cs.fsu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] yes, the above it true! I have already made a deal with someone for a 128 and disk drive..but it wont have much software or anything so heres what I propse...anyone of you with lots(and I mean lots) of commodore software/hardware that I can or could use with my new 128, please talk with me! It can be a complete system or partial, I dont care, but I want lots of software, things like ram expansion units , etc. Anything to soup it up and get more out of it....In return I'll trade you a : Texas Instruments 486/25 mhz laptop with 256 grey scale LCD Windows 95 80 meg hard drive 4 megs ram Lotus 5.0 and Wordperfect 6.1 +/- cash to supplement the diff. Let me know. Robert Duncan Duncan duncan@xi.cs.fsu.edu #! rnews 1032 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!news. mathworks.com!hunter.premier.net!uunet!inXS.uu.net!earth.superlink.net!news From: scharles@superlink.net (Yogi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: c64/c128 emu Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 02:08:23 GMT Organization: Jellystone Park Lines: 16 Message-ID: <31d72f08.1722531@news.superlink.net> References: <4r6lus$i8l@s2.GANet.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: p115.superlink.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.168 On 30 Jun 1996 19:53:00 GMT, ddeel@ganet.net (Dan Deel) wrote: -Could someone tell me where I can get a good C64/C128 emu for -Windows/Windows95? - - -ddeel@ganet.net - c64s is the best one for anyplatform. Of course, you'll have to run it full screen in windows 95, but it runs the most stuff with PERFECT sound (With SB). There is a shareware version available - not sure what the differences are between it and the registered one. Sorry I don't have a link to the company, but searching for c64s in archive or ftp search should find it for you. #! rnews 1104 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!news. mathworks.com!hunter.premier.net!uunet!inXS.uu.net!earth.superlink.net!news From: scharles@superlink.net (Yogi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Pirates Codes? Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 02:08:29 GMT Organization: Jellystone Park Lines: 16 Message-ID: <31d72fb4.1894488@news.superlink.net> References: <3054363431@gmd.de> <835770109@p71.f411.n201.z2.ftn> <4qrutl$rpm@bla ckice.winternet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p115.superlink.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.168 -: JS> where at which place, but now I got an emulator and this game, but I -: JS> haven't got this list. -: -: -: -: This is a great question ... in the relevant newsgroup: Comp.Emulators.CBM! -: What difference does it make where the question is asked?? Do you feel that using an emulator is not as good as using the real thing? (Especially when you can get one that works so good?) And doesnt load stuff as SSSSSSLLLLLLOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW as a real c-64? Besides, no one reads emulator newsgroups except people who write the emulators. #! rnews 892 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news2.cais.net!news.cais.net!netaxs.com!fish.phl.pond.com!Pfelux From: felux@wanda.pond.com (The Felux) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS: 128D & 64 + misc parts Date: Mon, 01 Jul 96 02:32:11 GMT Organization: FishNet Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4r7cgs$7h2@fish.phl.pond.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantic-17.phl.pond.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #1 I have the following for sale: Commodore 128D Commodore 64 - not working good for parts Swiftlink cartridge and software Vic - 1541 -- I don't know if this works, I think it needs alignment Working 1541 All cables for drives, power supplies, 64 cable for 1702 monitor - sorry Im keeping the monitor, Its now my TV A box of disks with over 50 programs mostly games Everything for 100.00 OBO + Shipping James Watkins felux@pond.com #! rnews 2508 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!news. mathworks.com!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus. acs.oh io-state.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!neoucom.edu!news.ysu.edu!news. ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!mel.dit.csiro.au!actcsiro!news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!metro! me ro!seagoon.newcastle.edu.au!usenet From: "Bruce R. McFarling" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Pirates Codes? Date: 1 Jul 1996 03:04:01 GMT Organization: Department of Economics, University of Newcastle Lines: 49 Message-ID: <4r7f71$dch@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> References: <3054363431@gmd.de> <835770109@p71.f411.n201.z2.ftn> <4qrutl$rpm@bla ckice.winternet.com> <31d72fb4.1894488@news.superlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: econ70.newcastle.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) scharles@superlink.net (Yogi) wrote: >-: JS> where at which place, but now I got an emulator and this game, >but I >-: JS> haven't got this list. >-: >-: >-: >-: This is a great question ... in the relevant newsgroup: >Comp.Emulators.CBM! >-: >What difference does it make where the question is asked?? Do you feel >that using an emulator is not as good as using the real thing? >(Especially when you can get one that works so good?) >And doesnt load stuff as SSSSSSLLLLLLOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW as a real c-64? >Besides, no one reads emulator newsgroups except people who write the >emulators. Last time I looked as comp.emulators.cbm, it was full of questions like this, PLUS, answers from people with more experience (*including* but not limited to, the people who write emulators). Whether an emulator or a real deal C64 is better is one of those pointless questions that lead people to say, after enough experience, "hey, why don't we split newsgroups?" "Then people that are only interest in real deal 8-bits have theirs, people who are really only interested in emulators have theirs, and people that are interested in both can follow both". Simple, Efficient, Get's the job done, Let's people have a choice .... What a *brilliant* idea. And the number to call, again, is: comp.emulators.cbm for all your CBM emulator questions and discussions. Like, how do I get this Warpspeed cartridge plugged into the back of this ASI486SX? It *just doesn't seem to fit*! Virtually, Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW ecbm@cc.newcastle.edu.au #! rnews 935 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!nntp.coast. net!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!mugca.cc.monash.edu.au!not-for-mail From: mspinks@mugca.cc.monash.edu.au (Matthew Spinks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: WTB: Pirates Date: 1 Jul 1996 14:12:21 +1000 Organization: Monash University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4r7j75$ile@mugca.cc.monash.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: mugca.cc.monash.edu.au X-NNTP-Posting-User: mspinks Keywords: Wanted to buy X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #11 Hi, I'm wanting to buy or otherwise acquire a copy of the game 'Pirates' for the C64. Can anyone help me out? Cheers, - Matthew Spinks. -- Matthew Spinks | PhD grad. slave | 'The assertion that men are objectively equal is so GSCIT Research Ctr. | patently absurd that it is not worth refuting.' Monash University | Churchill, Victoria | - Vilifredo Pareto, 'Manuel d'Economie Politique' Australia | #! rnews 704 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!winternet.com!n1ott. istar!ott.istar!istar.net!van.istar!van-bc!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!info.ucla. edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!ixnews1.ix.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!ix.netcom. com!news From: jonart@ix.netcom.com (InS@Ne DoM@iN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: WTB: C64 Mouse Date: 1 Jul 1996 03:42:25 GMT Organization: Phat Platypus Ent. Lines: 2 Message-ID: <4r7hf1$jfj@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nor-va5-08.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Jun 30 10:42:25 PM CDT 1996 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Does anyone have a mouse with docs on its use for the C64? #! rnews 1494 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! newsgate.duke.edu!news.eff.org!news.umbc.edu!not-for-mail From: msokos1@umbc.edu (sokos mark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: stack & ML Date: 1 Jul 1996 00:48:01 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4r7la1$eoq@umbc10.umbc.edu> References: <4r6sc4$osn@epcot.pomona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc10.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: msokos1 In article <4r6sc4$osn@epcot.pomona.edu>, Ocie Mitchell wrote: >I am reviving my C64 and I want to do some ML programming on it. I noticed >that the stack is limited to 256 bytes. Is anyone aware of a way to extend >this stack? I.E. can I set up an interrupt service handler that gets called >when the stack overflows or underflows so I can swap in/out more stack space >from the rest of the memory. Also, is the 256 byte stack the limitation I'm >thinking it is? Thanks for any help and happy computing to all. The built in stack functions of the 6510 are nice, but all you need for a stack is a bit of memory and a pointer. I don't think the 256 byte stack is all that much of a big deal. It works fine for most software tasks, and if you need bigger, a software stack is usually effecient enough to handle the job. - Mark Sokos (msokos1@gl.umbc.edu) Electrical engineer, computer geek (er, programmer) in training, no-talent bum musician (have bass, will travel), and perpetual student #! rnews 1542 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ixnews1.ix.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!ix. net com.com!news From: jonart@ix.netcom.com (InS@Ne DoM@iN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS: X1541 Cables Date: 1 Jul 1996 03:58:25 GMT Organization: Phat Platypus Ent. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4r7id1$jfj@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nor-va5-08.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Jun 30 10:58:25 PM CDT 1996 Keywords: x1541,1541,c64 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Hi I have a few X1541 cables for sale (good for hooking up your 1541 or 1571 drive to your pc's printer port to dump programs you got from the net on your pc to your commodore drive. Trans 64 is an excellent program for this)... Also have a few 1541 6 pin din cables too. All cables are tested before shipping. X1541 cable (commodore beige in color)-------$18.00 Includes shipping (US only) 1541 cable (commodore beige in color)--------$12.00 Includes shipping (US only) I hope this helps a few people out. This also may enable me to buy a few 'Ramen noodles this month'.... Ha! You may send money orders or personal checks(must wait till personal check clears the bank though) Or well concealed cash(I do not recommend this). Make all Checks/Money Orders payable to Jon Lucas. Here's my address: Jon Lucas 2573 Sandfiddler rd. Virginia Beach, VA 23456 Email: jonart@ix.netcom.com =END=