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From: crimson@cs.pdx.edu (bill m howland)
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     I don't exactly follow what I read previously, but 2 points:

The ramlink should perform like the 2+1 when switched to DIRECT mode. But
I've not used the software you do. The Ramlink must be modified in order=20
to allow swiftlink and REU together in direct mode, this may be your prob=
lem.
There's a RLDOS Rom for this, and that would be your best solution. Call =
CMD.

Also, there's an 8K static RAM chip in the ramlink base. So this is how
much memory it has when nothing is plugged in. I always assumed the auto-=
start
stuff was in this memory, and so it would work in an otherwise empty unit.
My guess is the whole of the 8k is DOS workspace, but I've never tried an=
y
experiments with it.

l8r!


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kwed@pip.dknet.dk (Jan Lund Thomsen) wrote:

> >I'll be starting to tinker around with Vicki as soon as I can get my p=
aws=20
> >on an assembler (preferably on disk) and an assembly language book.

> Can't help you with the assembler. As for a book on assembly language
> get anything that covers the 6502/6510 series, like Andreas Driepke's

I think I've got an assembler for the VIC-20... I think it's on one of
those disks I've sent to ftp.funet.fi recently.. I'll post it in
comp.binaries.cbm if I find it.


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From: wanderer_rtc@usa.pipeline.com(R. T. Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Hidden message on the C128...
Date: 11 Aug 1996 19:25:51 GMT
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On Aug 11, 1996 14:42:58 in article <Hidden message on the C128...>,
'clay@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (PakRhat)' wrote:=20
=20
>According to a doc I found, if you type the following on a C128 it will=20
>give you a hidden message:=20
>=20
>SYS 32800,123,45,6=20
>=20
>Could someone try this out and post or e-mail what the message is since =
I=20
>don't have a 128 myself.=20
=20
Well I can't reproduce the reversed top and bottom lines as they show, bu=
t
it reads:=20
-------=20
   Brought to you by...=20
=20
Software:=20
 Fred Bowen=20
 Terry Ryan=20
 Von Ertwine=20
=20
Herdware:=20
 Bil Herd=20
 Dave Haynie=20
 Frank Palaria=20
=20
Link arms, don't make them.=20
----=20
=20
Bil Herd obviously snuck in herd instead of hard for his namesake.=20
=20
There's another hidden message for the 64K VDC, and I don't remember what
it is.=20
=20
--=20
=20
Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer)=20
SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ=20
A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892
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From: clay@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (PakRhat)
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According to a doc I found, if you type the following on a C128 it will
give you a hidden message:

   SYS 32800,123,45,6

Could someone try this out and post or e-mail what the message is since I
don't have a 128 myself.
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From: Scott Dutton <dutton@freenet.calgary.ab.ca>
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My experience with the 1902A is that the main transformer has produced on=
e
or more cold solder joints where it joins to the circuit board. Get
someone who knows how not to electrocute themselves when they open a TV
set up (it could even be you). Undo the plugs and screws and carefully
slide out the whole guts of the beast. Unsolder the shield on the bottom
of the main circuit board and you'll see where the honking big transforme=
r
plugs itself in. Heat up the solder, as hot as you can get it, add more i=
f
some has disintegrated. That 'should' fix the thing. It worked for me.

And just plug a CGA'S 9-pin plug directly into the 128's RGBI port. You'l=
l
probably have to adjust the beam focus and screen heights, but I used to
have a great amber monitor that I kept as a back up. Now my 1902A backs u=
p
my 2002. Also, your sound will still come from the 40 column composite
cable. Take the audio plug, and attach a splitter. you can then run it to
a small pair of walkman speakers or plug it into your amplifier to boost
it through your stereo system.

Hope that helps.

- Scott Dutton


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From: ckaiser@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Po-Ching Lives!)
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In <4uj3e3$ig8@d1o2.telia.com> m9944@abc.se (Peter Karlsson) writes:

>I once read, in 64'er a few years ago, about a "multi-processor"
>fractal drawing program for the C64, that used the floppy's processor
>to speed up the calculations ("true" multitasking).

>Does anyone know if this program is anywhere to be found?

I heard a rumour about this too! Pretty smart idea, since my fractal
program relies on the poor 6510 by itself.

Cameron Kaiser
ckaiser@ucsd.edu
visit the CWI FTP site at ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/spectre
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From: bnholmes@rain.org (Ben Holmes)
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T. Koyn (koyn@crl.com) wrote:
> I would like to send the entire contents of a 1541 disk (raw sector dum=
p)=20
> as a single file to be received on another computer for use with an=20
> emulator.  I have a working commodre system, but am wondering what=20
> terminal program would allow me to do this.  I do not want to have to=20
> specifiy individual files on the disk to transer, as I want the whole=20
> disk.  Any guidance on what software to use on the commodre would be=20
> greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Use a program to change the disk to a '.d64' format file, then upload the
.d64 file... I think you could also just use zipcode to zip the disk, and
I believe that there are programs that will change a zip to a .d64
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From: wanderer_rtc@usa.pipeline.com(R. T. Cunningham)
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Subject: Re: terminal program to send a whole disk
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On Aug 11, 1996 10:37:57 in article <terminal program to send a whole
disk>, 'koyn@crl.com (T. Koyn)' wrote:=20
=20
>I would like to send the entire contents of a 1541 disk (raw sector dump=
)=20

>as a single file to be received on another computer for use with an =20
>emulator.  I have a working commodre system, but am wondering what =20
>terminal program would allow me to do this.  I do not want to have to =20
>specifiy individual files on the disk to transer, as I want the whole =20
>disk.  Any guidance on what software to use on the commodre would be =20
>greatly appreciated.  Thanks.=20
=20
Well, many ways to do it of course.  To save trouble, I would recommend y=
ou
use ZipCode to zip into the 4 files that it creates, then upload it.  Onc=
e
on the PC, just use StarZip to convert it to a .d64 file.=20
=20
Alternately, if it's not "full" disk program (contains many smaller
programs), I would recommend using either Lynx 17 or Ultimate Lynx III to
create a .lnx of all the files.  Then upload it to the PC and use StarLyn=
x
to convert it to .d64 format.=20
=20
--=20
=20
Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer)=20
SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ=20
A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892
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On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Jan Lund Thomsen wrote:

> [ <7 Aug 1996 06:50:41 GMT> Gary Sutton :]
>=20
> >I'll be starting to tinker around with Vicki as soon as I can get my p=
aws=20
> >on an assembler (preferably on disk) and an assembly language book.
>=20
> Can't help you with the assembler. As for a book on assembly language
> get anything that covers the 6502/6510 series, like Andreas Driepke's
> "Machine Code with 6502"(or something like that). It doesn't
> concentrate on any specific computer, so it won't unlock any of the
> Vic's secrets for you. Which is why I also recomend you get hold of
> the VIC20 Programmers Reference Guide.
>=20
 =20
  Keep in mind alot of the VIC-20 PRG is untrue, mostly to do with the
capabilties of the VIC chip.

  I would recommend also Commodore Hacking Magazine , Bonkers , and a
wealth of other disk magazines that cover the basics of
6502/6510/8501/8502 ML programming.=20

  These are available on many FTP sites, but I suggest you get them from
ftp.funet.fi pub/cbm/

C.hacking has it's own directory and the other magazines are in the
Magazine Directory.

Bonkers can be attained at ftp.vgernet.net pub/mpython/cbm

along with other ML programming information.


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From: ckaiser@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Po-Ching Lives!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
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Date: 11 Aug 1996 20:46:29 GMT
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In <4ug3ik$6ds@d1o2.telia.com> m9944@abc.se (Peter Karlsson) writes:

>Uhm? What? I haven't had any problems with the files not being
>readable.

Odd. I can't seem to get any of the bloody things to load! :-) Maybe
it's a quirk of FastLoad or something.

>The only thing is if you use the extend BASIC commands like MREAD or
>so... They will of course not work without the cartridge.

Well, that's true ;-)

Cameron Kaiser
ckaiser@ucsd.edu
visit the CWI home page at http://www.armory.com/~spectre/cwi.html
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soyou could post it there and then cross your fingers that someone offers
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From: kwed@pip.dknet.dk (Jan Lund Thomsen)
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[ <11 Aug 1996 01:10:10 +0200> Anders Carlsson  SdU :]

>> As far as I remember it runs on a 192K ROM/24K RAM expanded VIC20.
>Ok, I understand the RAM expansion, but why 192K ROM? Did they put a lot
>of pre-calculated data into ROM and did some strange bank-switching?

They probably used most of it for the samples.

>Anyway, I think one can do a lot of cool effects on a VIC20 without
>that extensive hardware expansions. (Just wait for Veni, Vidi VIC! :)

Agreed. Just take a look at Jeff Minters "Matrix". Has to be *the*
most impressive game on the Vic. And it plays great too. All in 8K :)=20

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Commodore C-64  `Untested/As-is'  (Cartridges UNLESS NOTED)
-------------------------------
the CARD/? by Cardo, The Parallel Printer Interface
and manual      $7.00
Incredible Musical Keyboard by Sight & Sounds
Includes BOX, keyboards, and Docs, No disk
or cartridges found for this            $20.00

64 Modem                $6.00  BOX, Modem, Disk, 300 Buad
Adventure Creator       $15.00 Cart, Box, Docs, Warrenty card
Centipede               $7.00
Choplifter              $6.00
Clowns                  $4.00
Congo Bongo             $10.00 MINT label   (1) $6.00 label tear
Crush,Crumble and Chomp $5.00 DISK, Box and Manual
Frogger                 $6.00 (2)
Gridrunner              $6.00
HES Writer 64           $5.00
Intro to Basic          $6.00 (DOX, Manuel, 2 Cassettes, Template)
Jupitar Lander          $5.00=20
Kickman                 $4.00=20
Kids on Keys            $4.00 Case, Docs and Nice Case
Magic Desk I            $4.00 (3)
Ms Pac-man              $7.00 Cart and BOX
Pinball Construct Set   $5.00 DISK, Box, Manual
Popeye                  $7.00
Radar Rat Race          $5.00
Save New York City      $7.00 Small label tear
Sea Wolf                $5.00
Tapper                 $10.00 =20
Webster:the Word Game   $6.00 Cart, Case,Docs                            =
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Vic-20  Cartridges  'Untested/AS-IS'  SYS 32592 to run most
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BOOK: Personal Computing on the Vic-20  164 Pages       $10.00
BOOK: an Introduction to Basic:`Part 1  152 Pages       $10.00
      Comes with BOX, Large size book, 2 tapes included

Adventure Land          vic-1914       $4.00 (2)
Aggressor               HES           $10.00
Aliens                  vic-1906       $4.00
Avenger                 vic-1901       $3.00  (4)
Avenger                 vic-1901       $6.00 Box and Manual
Centipede               atarisoft     $12.00
Choplifter              Creative Soft. $8.00
Choplifter              Creative Soft. $4.00 Faded label
Clowns                  vic1931        $3.00  (2)
Cosmic Cruncher         vic-1922       $3.00
Cosmic Cruncher         vic-1922       $6.00 Box, and Docs
the Count               vic-1917       $3.00  (3)
Demon Attack            Imagic        $12.00=20
Dig Dug                 atarisoft     $12.00
Gorf                    vic-1923       $3.00  (6)
Gorf                    vic-1923       $6.00  Metal Cover
Gorf                    vic-1923       $8.00 With BOX, Manual
Grid Runner             HesWare        $9.00
Grid Runner                            $3.00  (NO LABEL)
Home Babysitter         vic-1928       $4.00
Jupiter Lander          vic-1907       $4.00
K-Razy Antiks           CBS           $13.00
Mole Attack             vic-1912       $3.00  (5)
Number Nabber/Shape Grabber            $5.00  (2) vic-1941
Pac-Man                               $10.00
Pirates Cove            vic-1915       $3.00  (5)
Poker                   vic-1908       $4.00  (1)
Poker                   vic-1908       $6.00 With BOX
Pole Position           atarisoft     $10.00
Omega Race              vic-1924       $2.00  (9)
Omega Race              vic-1924       $6.00 BOX and docs
Q*Bert                                 $12.00 (2)
Radar RatRace           vic-1910       $3.00  (5)
Raid on Fort Knox       vic-1913       $6.00  (2)
River Rescue            Thorn EMI     $18.00  Made in the UK
Sargon II Chess         vic-1919       $6.00
Slot                    vic-1904       $3.00
Slot                    vic-1904       $6.00 With BOX
Speed Math/Bingo Math   vic-1933       $3.00 (2)
StarTrek: S.O.S.        Sega          $12.00
Super Smash             vic-1921       $5.00
The Sky is Falling      vic-1911       $4.00
Tooth Invaders          vic-1938       $6.00
Turtle Graphics         HesWare        $8.00
VooDoo Castle           vic-1918       $4.00 (3)

Vic-20 CASSETTES 'Untested/AS-IS'
----------------
Cassette SIX Pack (BOX, Docs, 6 cassettes) $6.00
Car Chase                       $2.00
Blue Meanies from Outer Space   $3.00  Docs
Expense Calendar                $3.00  With Box, and Docs
Galactic Blitz                  $3.00  by Tronix
Home Inventory                  $3.00  With Box
Home Inventory                  $2.00 =20
Loan/Mortgage                   $3.00  With Box and Docs
Personal Finance                $4.00  (2 cassettes) With Box
Slither                         $2.00
Snakeman                        $2.00 =20
Trek                            $3.00  Vic-20/C-64
Typewrite WordProcessor         $3.00  With Box
3 Misc cassettes and Case       $3.00  misc programs

=09
     *** Sinclair QL Professional Computer ***
   Untested, Since I don't have the Power supply
This is a VERY unusaul computer, It uses SUPER Small Micro       =20
tapes to store it's Data. (57 Tapes/cartridges Included)
Each one measures 1 1/4 by 1 3/4 INCHES and about 1/4 thick.
TWO Computers are included, One was said for Parts, when I got
this. Also a Trump Card that plugs into the side, which adds:
768k RAM, Disc interface, RAM Disc, Toolkit II, screen dump, and
more, This is the First Time, anyone here has seen one of these.
$75 and $20 shipping or TRADE
=09

WANT LIST: Chase the Chuckwagon, X-men, Crazy Climber, Custer's Revenge
   SwordQuest:WaterWorld, X-rated Double-enders, Cakewalk,
   Cubicolor, Gas Hog, LockJaw, Master Builder, Q*Bert Qubes
   Quadrun, Stronghold, 128 in 1 system, CompuMate,=20
   anything else extremely Rare

----------------------------------------------------------
SHIPPING     USA/Canada         ALL Other Countries
1 items         $1.50              $3.50
2 items         $2.00              $4.00
3 items         $2.50              $4.50
4 items         $3.00 MAX          $5.00 More for Books/Hardware

All Carts are sold as Working conditions Only, If you have
a concern of the Labels Condition Please ask first.
All Boxes/carts will be mailed within 1-4 Days after money is recieved!
After I tell you that I've got you down for any certain cart,
you will have 'SEVEN' days to have a check, money order or Cash
to me before the cart goes back on sale again.
If my cartridge count was wrong and I am OUT of the cartridge you
ordered, I will E-mail you to see if you want a REFUND or=20
a Second Choice-This RARELY happens.


E-mail: Stever@on-ramp.ior.com
http://www.ior.com/~stever   (Classic Cart Web Page)
Call: Prowler's DOMAIN bbs  509-327-8922   8-lines  18.0+GIGS
or TELNET in at: prowlers.net
Contact: Night Prowler


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From: MrTophat <mrtophat@delphi.com>
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Subject: Re: C64 book wanted!
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Try Paxtron Corp. at 28 Grove St./Spring Valley NY 10977 ph:1-914-578-652=
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Hi! have you got a copy of the dearcing file that works? I can't seem to
download one that works..if you have it and would be kind enough to make
me a copy, let me know I'll pay you for the disk and postage...thanks
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From: aperotti@tribeca.ios.com (Anthony R Perotti)
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Subject: Re: Zak McKracken & RAMLink
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bill m howland (crimson@cs.pdx.edu) wrote:
: The ramlink should perform like the 2+1 when switched to DIRECT mode. B=
ut
: I've not used the software you do. The Ramlink must be modified in orde=
r=20
: to allow swiftlink and REU together in direct mode, this may be your pr=
oblem.
: There's a RLDOS Rom for this, and that would be your best solution. Cal=
l CMD.

I guess I should check to see what version of DOS I have and discuss it=20
with CMD when I order my RAM card.

: Also, there's an 8K static RAM chip in the ramlink base. So this is how
: much memory it has when nothing is plugged in. I always assumed the aut=
o-start
: stuff was in this memory, and so it would work in an otherwise empty un=
it.

Near as I can tell and empty RAM link had 0k.

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From: Mark Perrego <perregom@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: SEQ files. How do i look at them?
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>Xkomunnik8 (heartcoldsplinter@dclink.com) wrote:
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>: I'm using a 128 in 64 mode and trying to look at sequential files=20
>: on 64 formatted disks, and am having no luck. I have forgotten how to=20
>: load them and look at em. can someone help me remember?
>
If you keep it in 128 mode, the following line will read a SEQ file from=20
disk:
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stop the scroll by pressing the "No Scroll" key along the top of the=20
keyboard.  If you are using an 80 column screen, be sure to type FAST=20
first.
=20
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Hope this helps!
 - Mark
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What's in this 192K? It's not just there like RAM.

Gary Tait

On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Jan Lund Thomsen wrote:

> runs on a 192K ROM/24K RAM expanded VIC20. Had some pretty impressive
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From: Alan Jones <alan.jones@qcs.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 30000 programs
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 09:47:00 GMT
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More old stuff to respond to:


Date : 08-03-96      Time : 18:54
From: Jason <tmr@cosine.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: OVER 30000 C64 PROGRAMS!!!

Michael W. Hall:
: Are you seroius?!?!?!? Who is being deprived here. No programmer is
: collecting money on any C=3D software.

And how much do you want to put on *that?*  I counted *seven* entries
for my own works...

Sorry, but a lot of the software there is still commercially available,
for example, Freds Back 3, Lions of the Universe, Heavenbound, Sword of
Honour and my own stuff.  My stuff I don't care about (I gave up trying
to sell it and pretty much give the things away these days) but they
*are* still copyrighted to me.

Of course, if someone sent me a *freebie* of the CD I might be willing
to shut up about my bits...  Jason, TMR, tmr@cosine.demon.co.uk

AJ>  Umm... I'm a little confused.  You are outraged to learn that your
     software was determined to be worthy of archiving (or copying).
     Then you nearly announce that all of your work is now freeware.
     Then you say you want an honorarium of the outrageous deed itself.

     I have no particular interest in this CD.  I don't know what
     software it contains.  I am dissapointed that the producers
     violated copywrite laws.  I doubt that there was much actual
     monetary injury done to the software authors.  It might even
     spur sales of the original software packages.  I would like
     to see someone like CMD or SSI do this sort of thing legitimatly.

Years ago in another universe (network) I suggested that an archival CD
of C64/128 software should be produced.  I was concerned that most of
the software and proprietary development tools, documentation, etc. was
in danger of being lost forever.  The idea was that the authors or
copywrit e owners would submit the files to be archived.  Some of the
files would be shareware, freeware, and public domain.  Some of the
files would be encrypted and only the owner would have the key(s).  The
material would then be safely archived on CD ROMS and widely
distributed (marketed).  Possibly encrypted files could be included
containing software from uncoperative owners as well.  Then, perhaps
many years later, an owner could decide to make thier work freeware or
PD and simply releasing the encrytion key would solve the distribution
problem.  Noone else thought that this idea had any merit.  Today
faster modems are more common, there are more ISPs, and there seems to
be enough FTP sites willing to allocate disk space for these software
files.  I'm still concerned that proprietary development tools, and
documented source codes may become lost forever.  I think there is
still a place for encrypted files on a C64/128 CD ROM.  A producer
could sort files into three catagories: permitted, denied, and unknown
access.

If the CD ROM producer can't locate the copywrite owner to get
permision or denial, it could be included as an encrypted file.  If the
owner is later found and grants permission, the CD ROM producer can
release the key for that permitted file.

I do not advocate piracy in any form.  I also want to remind individual
users that they have a vested interest in not making copies of software
for thier friends.  Someday you might want to sell your original copy
of the software and you can't easily do that if you have already given
them illegal copies.

It is also true, at least in my locale, that you can't even give away
most C64/128 software unless you bundle it with something else of value
to the buyer. --  alan.jones@qcs.org

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From: Alan Jones <alan.jones@qcs.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: SuperCPU
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 11:40:00 GMT
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I hear the CMD SuperCPU 64 is now shipping.  All I know about it is
what I have read through comp.sys.cbm.  However, my take on this
development is different from most of the comments that I have read
here.

First the CMD SuperCPU is a very significant development for the
C64/128 community.  This is not for the hardware itself but because it
will generate a lot of ink and buzz (interest and excitement).  Who
knows, it might even get a few lines in mainstream computing magazines.
It has certainly spawned messages here, and articles in C-Hacking and
other CBM magazines.

CMD calls it an "accelerator", but it is more than that.  It is a whole
new computer that is "hosted" by a C64/128 computer. This is good news,
bad news.  It limits the new computer in display, sound, I/O, and
peripherals to that of the C64/128.  The SuperCPU is based on a 20 Mhz
65C816 CPU.  This is an enhanced 16/8 bit version of the 6502.  Its not
much in a world of 200 Mhz 64/32 bit CPUs in modern PCs.  But it is an
order of magnitude increase in performance potential from the host
machine and that may be enough.  It comes with the best, fastest, C64
(and later C128) emulator available on any platform (so far).
(Actually I thought that a similar unit based on the ARM or even the
PIC CPUs might offer us a better performance/price, but then the
emulator performance might suffer.)

So right out of the box all we get is a fast C64.  So what is a C64/128
best for?  The 6502 is very responsive to sevicing interupts and the
C64/128 is very good for hobbyist type harware and software hacking.
(Actually it is good for many more things.)  The 65C816 CPU has some
more and wider internal registers so it may take it a few more cyles to
save the current processor state over the 8 bit buss before servicing
the interupt.  Most of these interupts may be generated by the slow C64
host itself, so that is no limitation.  A stock 128 with a 6551 can run
RS232 at 115K bps anyway.  So interupt handling with the SuperCPU is
no big advantage.

I have read only discouraging things about user hacking on the
SuperCPU.  I asked if it was easy to patch the RAM shadow of the ROM
image and what type of ROM the SuperCPU used.  I was told that this was
not possible and that I should keep a hands off policy toward hacking
the SuperCPU.  This same person told me that the ROM used is "virgin
jdos".  I've checked all my reference manuals and catalogs and I can't
find an IC chip manufacturer or trade name of Virgin, nor jdos.  I'm
sure the responder was confused, and I discount his answer to the first
part of my question as well.  I certainly hope that the SuperCPU ROM(s)
is(are) socketed DIP packages and of a type that is commercialy
available and programmable by the Promenade C1.

The SuperCPU C64 emulator uses only stock 8 bit 6502 instructions.
However, the C64 kernel is designed with jump tables.  This makes it
easy to update individual kernal routines such as the arithmetic
routines.  Using the 65C816 16 bit instructions it sould be possible to
nearly double the speed of individual kernel routines that the user
wishes to patch.  Users could publish many patches and eventually we
would have a significantly faster SuperCPU C64 emulation.  Again,
computing faster is not the overiding issue, the ease of user hacking,
which is the heart and soul of C64/128 programmer/users is.

An unresolved question is how fast the SuperCPU will run cartridge
based software such as the COMAL 2.0 programming language.  This
cartridge is 64-128K of EPROM bank switched in 16K banks.  I may well
be the only person to whom this question is important.  However, there
are many more C64/128 software cartridges out there.  CMD should have
provided some means of running these at full 20 Mhz speed.  This could
be instructions for building a new cartidge with faster EPROMS and
circuitry, or RAM shadowing the cartridge EPROM images in the SuperCPU.

It is also apearant that the CPLD (Complex Programmable Logic Device)
is the magic "black box" that makes the SuperCPU work.  I have not seen
any info on this published yet.  Understanding the CPLD is certainly of
interest to user/programmers.

The SuperCPU may well be too little too late (which was said of the 128
at its introduction).  The only C64 upgrade that makes sense today is
to buy a used 128 for $40-50 (depending on extras like the manual,
cables, etc.).

I have two great hopes for the SuperCPU.  First is the Rocket Socket.
If CMD produces a series of powerful expansions for this port and
software to use them, it could become much more usefull.  For example a
good FPU (floating point unit) and an enhanced graphics card.  The
graphics card could be a stunning SVGA unit or a unit based on the old
Amiga chip set (which would also work with many 128 monitors with
analog RGB inputs).

The second hope would be that the SuperCPU becomes so popular that many
65C816 program development tools are released (as well as software) and
a user DIY hardware hack is developed for the C64/128.  This might be a
65C816 running at just 8 Mhz with just a few K bytes of fast RAM (or
even just zero page) patched into the C64/128.  This would cost only a
fraction of buying a new SuperCPU, but more importantly it would be a
fun hardware hacking project.

So who should buy a SuperCPU?  Anyone who simply must be the first one
on the block to get one.  Program developers including commercial,
shareware, freeware, and public domain. (As long as the fruits of thier
accelerated labor are usable by C64/128 users without a SuperCPU.)
Anyone who must use a C64/128 for commercial purposes, such as
producing a C64/128 magazine.  Anyone who blew money on that
Turbomaster thing and wants to run faster still.

What would really sell the SuperCPU?  A killer application that
requires the SuperCPU.  I doubt that this will happen.  However, it may
happen that the WAVE (a C128 graphical web browser in development) may
work well but very slow on a stock 128 but be quite fast on a SuperCPU
128.

Will I buy one?  Probaly not, but I am interested and I'm waiting to
see how the SuperCPU 128 pans out.

What will the impact of the SuperCPU be?  Probably not much.  CMD will
make money on it and this will help them stay in business, which is a
good impact for all of us.  A new computer generaly means a new
generation of software is written and marketed.  I don't expect this
one to draw in new programmers. It may of course divert existing active
C64/128 programmers from developing C64/128 code into developing
SuperCPU specific code.

Well, I've generated my share of "buzz".   Now it's your turn.

alan.jones@qcs.org

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