#! rnews 918 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.mathworks.c= om!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.genie.net!usenet From: r.bernardo@genie.com (Robert Bernardo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Fresno Commodore User Group sale - second posting Date: 31 Jul 1996 05:27:21 GMT Organization: via GEnie Services (1-800-638-9636 or info@genie.com) Lines: 16 Sender: r.bernardo@genie.com (Robert Bernardo) Message-ID: <4tmqrp$3n3@rock101.genie.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rock103.is.ge.com Fresno Commodore User Group, P.o. Box 16098, Fresno, California 93755, has a number of programs, books, manuals, and magazines for sale. All items are sold "as is" but are believed to be in working condition with all required manuals except as noted. Terms are as follows: Leave e-mail to r.estel@genie.com , or send a SASE to the address above, requesting the desired lists: Books & Manuals Magazines Productivity Programs Games #! rnews 882 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!info.u= cla.edu!csulb.edu!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.= internetmci.com!tir.com!news From: steele Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: battle tech???? Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:39:34 -0700 Organization: The Internet Ramp Lines: 10 Message-ID: <31FEFFA6.7B25@tir.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: an53ph.tir.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) hello all you computer users out there.....I have just goten my commadore= =20 64 to work again and i wanted to play the game battletech and,....I=20 relized that I lost my manuale and crap the last time i moved, anyhow, I=20 was wondering if any of you have this game and might be able to help me=20 out reply ASAP please..... Robert Steele steele@tir.com #! rnews 943 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news.u= oregon.edu!news-feed.iguide.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: Donovan Dyer Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: dir/editor/fd2000 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 19:10:27 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: = <4th5im$9rk@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <4tidqt$2bc@m= agnolia.pe.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1e.delphi.com X-To: bob masse Bob, this also makes up a line like --------mail------, as a program file. So in Dialogue, when you want to load a file, it only lists seq files. I changed the file from p to s using Dedit, so they all show up. Bob, check my page, http://people.delphi.com/novan, still working on it, not many links yet, but getting there :) =20 Don #! rnews 1111 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!conch.aa.msen.com!not-for-mail From: brain@mail.msen.com (Jim Brain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Looking for C128D keyboard Date: 31 Jul 1996 01:33:23 -0400 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI Lines: 23 Sender: brain@msen.com Message-ID: References: <4tiq5m$ep3@Isis.MsState.Edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: conch.aa.msen.com X-Newsreader: Yarn 0.90 with YES 0.22 X-URL: http://www.msen.com/~brain/ In article <4tiq5m$ep3@Isis.MsState.Edu>, dwc1@Ra.MsState.Edu (David W. Case) wrote: >=20 > >I am looking for a source to buy a C128D keyboard. Can someone look in = a=20 >current CMD Commodore World mag and see if there are any adds for one. =20 >Thank you, >-David > try: http://www.msen.com/~brain/pub/cbm-supply-list.1.0.txt --=20 Jim Brain, Embedded System Designer, Brain Innovations, Inc. (BII)(offlin= e sig) j.brain@ieee.org "Above views DO reflect my employer, since I'm my empl= oyer" Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, VR, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!= -Me- Jim Brain: BII, VR, and CBM info #! rnews 1666 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!conch.aa.msen.com!not-for-mail From: brain@mail.msen.com (Jim Brain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Wanted:RS-232 Date: 31 Jul 1996 01:35:14 -0400 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI Lines: 36 Sender: brain@msen.com Message-ID: References: <4thjcj$3kl@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: conch.aa.msen.com X-Newsreader: Yarn 0.90 with YES 0.22 X-URL: http://www.msen.com/~brain/ In article <4thjcj$3kl@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Pamela wrote: > >Can someone please point me in the right direction to an RS-232 interfac= e >for the 64/128? I'd really appreciate it. All I'm using right now >between the 128 and the PC is a 1670. Not good. > >Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Check out the FAQ for a couple of interface schemaatics ( http://www.men.com/~brain/cbmhome.html Or, if you want to buy one, check out the supplier list: http://www.msen.com/~brain/pub/cbm-supply-list.1.0.txt Or, Roger Long's Commodore Products List (better) at http://www.televar.com/~rjlong/ JIm > > ------------------------------------------------------------ >| Pammyk@primenet.com | >| Classic Video Game Collector. Atari/INTV/ColecoVision | > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --=20 Jim Brain, Embedded System Designer, Brain Innovations, Inc. (BII)(offlin= e sig) j.brain@ieee.org "Above views DO reflect my employer, since I'm my empl= oyer" Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, VR, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!= -Me- Jim Brain: BII, VR, and CBM info #! rnews 3081 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!conch.aa.msen.com!not-for-mail From: brain@mail.msen.com (Jim Brain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Commodore Hacking Zip Archives Now Available Date: 31 Jul 1996 01:36:32 -0400 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI Lines: 62 Sender: brain@msen.com Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: conch.aa.msen.com X-Newsreader: Yarn 0.90 with YES 0.22 X-URL: http://www.msen.com/~brain/ ######## ################## ###### ###### ##### ##### #### #### ## ##### #### #### #### #### #### = ##### ##### ## ## #### ## ## ## ### ## #### ## #= # ## ##### ######## ## ## ## ##### ## ## ## ## ## ##### ## ## ######## ## ## ## ### ## ## #### ## = ## ##### #### #### #### #### ##### #### #### #### #### #### ###= ### ##### = ## ###### ###### =20 ################## Zip Archive Announcement=20 ######## =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- For those who are having trouble reading issue 12 or 13 diue to their large size will be happy to learn that these two issues are now available on the Commodore Hacking MAILSERV server as PKZIP1.1 compatible zip archives. Each archive contains each issue separated into individual articles. In addition, each binary files included in the issue is availa= ble in "ready-to-run" format. No more worrying about decoding the binaries before downloading, or having to printout the entire issue just to read i= t. Now, you can print out individual articles, and run the applications=20 immediately after unarchiving. Included in each archive is a special file called "order.lst" that contai= ns the names of the text files as they were assembled to create the magazine= =20 issue. Commodore Hacking is looking for the following help: For each of the following platforms, C=3DH wants to include a program whi= ch=20 will print out an issue in the order specified in this "order.lst" file. For each platform, the respective program should ask the user the locatio= n of the printer, offer to issue a form feed at the end of each article, and use the order.lst file to print out the complete issue. For all environments, programs that ignore case in filenames are preferred. Also, for the Commodore environments, the option to print the file as PETSCII or as ASCII would be beneficial, as the articles are in ASCII for= mat. The environments are: DOS UNIX (sh script) CBM 64 CBM 128 Any other environments are also considered. Thank You. Jim Brain, editor Commodore Hacking --=20 Jim Brain, Embedded System Designer, Brain Innovations, Inc. (BII)(offlin= e sig) j.brain@ieee.org "Above views DO reflect my employer, since I'm my empl= oyer" Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, VR, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!= -Me- Jim Brain: BII, VR, and CBM info #! rnews 1361 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.co= m!nntp.primenet.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.be.innet.net!INbe.net!= news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!hunter.premier.net!news.cais.net!mr.net!winter= net.com!n1ott.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!news.nstn.ca= !newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!pooh.freenet.mb.ca!winnie= .freenet.mb.ca!rohatyns From: Steve Rohatynsky Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: cbm dos protection manuals Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:21:01 -0500 Organization: Blue Sky FreeNet of Manitoba Inc. Lines: 33 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: winnie.freenet.mb.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII Hi, I have my entire CBM DOS protection manuals for sale!! (disks are included if the book publishers made one available) Kracker Jax Revealed Trilogy (173 pages) - disk CSM Newsletter Compendium (202 pages) - disk Program Protection Manual for c64, vol1 (95 pages), vol2 (278 pages) -dis= k Inside CBM DOS (508 pages) - book is in good condition (includes disk!!!) All books are in excellent condition!! I would like to sell them all for $65.00 US (plus shipping!!) Five GREAT informative books... -Stephan Rohatynsky Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA (rohatyns@freenet.mb.ca) #! rnews 1506 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!n= ews.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!dem= on!mail2news.demon.co.uk!gate.demon.co.uk From: Jason Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C64 and C64GS Date: Wed, 31 Jul 96 00:37:14 GMT Organization: Cosine Systems Lines: 18 Message-ID: <9607310037.AA0053r@cosine.demon.co.uk> References: <4tiq52$f8q@news.isc.rit.edu> <4tkbhl$jad@bmdhh222.bnr.ca> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gate.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [AMIGA 1.3 950726BETA PL0] X-Mail2News-Path: relay-1.mail.demon.net!gate.demon.co.uk Paul Sampson: : It's coloured in the same way as a 64C. It is as long as a normal : 64C, but maybe only as half as wide. The little legend on the : case says 64GS. Not sure if it takes standard C=3D64 carts, but I'd : assume it does. It does. The mainboard is actually just a C64c board with a few bits missing (serial/keyboard connector etc). Jason =3D-) ____________________________________________________________________= ___ TMR / / / / / / / = /\ / /__/ / / /__/ / / / /__/ Email: tmr@cosine.demon.co.uk = / / / /\_/ / /__ / / / / __// Cosine Homepage: = / / / /__/ / / / / / / / / / Moving soon! New site found... /= / /_____/_____/_____/__/__/__/_____/_____________________________________/ = / \_____\_____\_____\__\__\__\_____\_____________________________________\/ #! rnews 740 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.co= m!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!hunter.premier.net!news-res.gsl.net!new= s.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ycc.yale.edu!y= ale!news-mail-gateway!daemon From: trevor.kayzer@jybbs.com (Trevor Kayzer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Apple IIe support Date: 30 Jul 1996 21:26:32 -0400 Organization: JunkYard BBS Lines: 4 Sender: daemon@cs.yale.edu Message-ID: <19960730212621.aaaa002Va@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: babyblue.cs.yale.edu I have a friend who just picked up an Apple IIe at a garage sale. Does anyone know where he might find some support for this. Thanx ... Trev * trevor.kayzer@jybbs.com * #! rnews 754 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!n= ews.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!oleane!jussieu.fr!math.ohio= -state.edu!usc!newshub.cts.com!news1.crl.com!ephsa!endicor.com!news From: A_Ricks@fcircus.sat.tx.us (A Ricks) Subject: Re: SEQ files. How do i look at them? Message-ID: <19960730.7502260.FB42@fcircus.sat.tx.us> Sender: news@endicor.com (Usenet News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: vizzini.endicor.com Organization: The Flying Circus Amiga BBX, San Antonio, Texas X-Newssoftware: BBX-UMB 1.06l (February 20, 1995) References: <31FB247B.7569@dclink.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:31:25 GMT Lines: 2 Maverick disk copy program has a sequential file reader , so does Disk Wiz from Loadstar=20 #! rnews 798 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!n= ews.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!oleane!jussieu.fr!math.ohio= -state.edu!usc!newshub.cts.com!news1.crl.com!ephsa!endicor.com!news From: A_Ricks@fcircus.sat.tx.us (A Ricks) Subject: Re: 1571 drive Message-ID: <19960730.7502260.FDBF@fcircus.sat.tx.us> Sender: news@endicor.com (Usenet News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: vizzini.endicor.com Organization: The Flying Circus Amiga BBX, San Antonio, Texas X-Newssoftware: BBX-UMB 1.06l (February 20, 1995) References: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:24:46 GMT Lines: 3 Software Support, Vancover Washington, sell the Free Spirit program.=20 Their number is 1-800-356-1179 (orders only). Support line is (360)-695-9648 #! rnews 655 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.ed= u!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!newshub.cts.com!news1.crl.com!ephsa!endicor.com= !news From: A_Ricks@fcircus.sat.tx.us (A Ricks) Subject: Re: CBM 1084ST to a CBM PC 50 or CBM 386SX Message-ID: <19960730.7502260.F646@fcircus.sat.tx.us> Sender: news@endicor.com (Usenet News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: vizzini.endicor.com Organization: The Flying Circus Amiga BBX, San Antonio, Texas X-Newssoftware: BBX-UMB 1.06l (February 20, 1995) References: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:21:11 GMT Lines: 1 question: What is a Commodore 386 SX? #! rnews 1853 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeeder.sdsu.= edu!chi-news.cic.net!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.coast.net!= zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!peach!atl1!ph= red From: phred Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: d64 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:44:45 -0500 Organization: America.Net, P.O. Box 1222, Alpharetta, GA 30239-1222 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <838526412.AA00402@cloud.apana.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: atl1.america.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII X-Sender: phred@atl1 In-Reply-To: <838526412.AA00402@cloud.apana.org.au>=20 On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Stephen Lloyd wrote: > There is not a way from unix to decompile a .d64 but there is a program= =20 called star commander which is still in it's beta and alpha testing stage= s=20 which can transfer a .d64 disk image to a cbm disk you'll need a special=20 cable to plug in to your commodore disk drive and your lpt port on the pc= to=20 do this. > hope this helps Wrong. There IS a program that one can compile under Unix to convert a=20 .d64 file to Zip-Code (disk) format. I just leeched it from frodo.hiof.no. So there! -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- * What, Me Clueless? I don't think so...I'm navigating = * * the Internet on a Commodore 64, aren't I? = * * Look for me in the following spots: = * * _phred_ on #c-64 (in IRC) = * * Web Page - http://www.america.net/~phred = * *This signature is subject to change at my whim. -- phred@america.net = * -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- #! rnews 1219 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeeder.sdsu.= edu!newspump.sol.net!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Radioactive Warrior Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Amiga ROMS Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:39:16 +0000 Organization: What? me! worry?! Lines: 14 Message-ID: <31FE8F14.3E1@orl.mindspring.com> References: <393.6= 784T1033T1358@gromit.inka.de> Reply-To: radwar@orl.mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-176-117.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Stephan Kleinert wrote:=20 > Ricardo \"Storm\" Marques Ferreira schrieb am 29-Jul-96 14:00:13 das > >Could somebody post the amiga roms (1.3)? > >You could post 2.0 & 3.0 if you want. >=20 > Could somebody please post WinDoze '95? > You could post NT and 3.11 if you want. Really... And I have been looking for MACROMEDIA DIRECTOR, the CD distrubition for MAC please... And FINDER 7.5.2 and ADOBE PHOTOSHOP 3.0 and NETSCAPE 3.0 registered and all the codes for the ADOBE type-on-call CD would be nice too... thanks oodles :<> #! rnews 1868 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeeder.sdsu.= edu!chi-news.cic.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!= news.mathworks.com!zombie.ncsc.mil!newsgate.duke.edu!agate!news.ucsc.edu!= news.ucsc.edu!hermit From: hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: C128D keyboard weirdness (REPOST) Date: 31 Jul 1996 02:46:39 GMT Organization: Computing and Telecommunications Services, UCSC Lines: 30 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ese.ucsc.edu I posted this earlier, but nobody replied ... I'm really hoping someone out there might know what is wrong and/or have suggestions on repairing it! My C128D acts very oddly. All keys work fine except for the keys 7, Y, G, V, 8, U, H, and B. Those keys do semi-random things, as if there's a short somewhere between the rows/columns of the keyboard matrix. It isn't the CIA chip; I've tried 3 of them. It isn't the keyboard; it works fine on other computers (with a DB25 gender-changer, it'll work on a flat 128). I suspect a bad trace on the motherboard between the CIA and the keyboard connector. I looked in the keyboard matrix table in the 128 PRG, and the bad keys are all in the same column. In C64 mode, the keys that the computer thinks you hit when you press one of the bad keys are keys from the 3 columns to the right of the "bad column" but in the same row as the key that was actually pressed. But in 128 mode, they seem pretty random--some act as if SHIFT was pressed, even! I'm totally befuddled by this. Has anyone out there experienced anything like this? --Bill. -- William R Ward Bay View Consulting http://www.bayview.com/~her= mit/ hermit@bayview.com 1803 Mission St. #339 voicemail +1 408/479-= 4072 hermit@cats.ucsc.edu Santa Cruz CA 95060 USA pager +1 408/458-= 8862 #! rnews 678 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeeder.sdsu.= edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.bright.net!news From: steinmtz@bright.net (Brian Steinmetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: WTB: VIC-20 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 03:49:32 GMT Organization: BrightNet Ohio Lines: 5 Message-ID: <31fed798.6088868@news.bright.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: akro1-cs-3.dial.bright.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 I am intereted in purchasing a VIC-20. Must be in working condition with all required parts, cables, etc. Brian Steinmetz steinmtz@bright.net 2600/5200/7800, Colecovision, Intellivision, Supercharger 88 Honda Accord - 16" Chrome Wheels, Sony CD, Zapco amps... #! rnews 1602 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.co= m!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!news.mathworks.com!zombie.ncsc.mil!news= gate.duke.edu!agate!hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk!news.cuhk.edu.hk!newsfeeder.ust.hk= !nntp.hk.super.net!tst.hk.super.net!usenet From: "Merlin" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Please help, re: FRAK!!! Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 12:17:57 +0800 Organization: Hong Kong SuperNET Lines: 20 Message-ID: <01bb7e97.980d71c0$260301c0@WKS00318.swirebev.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.64.246.18 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1085 Please help me anyone, FRAK is driving me mad. I posted a help message last week and nobody answered. Please, please there must be someone out there who played this game and knows how to get past level 4! Here is the original message, detailing the problem.... >Level four is an Ice type level, all decked out in blue and contains >monsters that stand on one hand. I have been able to progress to what >seemed the end of the platforms and there are two monsters that block th= e >way. There doesn't seem to be any way of yoyo'ing them as I am unable t= o >find a platform that is close enough on the same horizontal level > >Also, when I travel back along the top of the platforms to where you begin >the level and yoyo the last moster, after about 4 or 5 seconds, another >monster shoots towards you from the right. After falling for this the >first time, I was able to yoyo this monster too. Unfortunately though, >those two monsters blocking the end of the level are still there. Hairy Trees ........ Slowly #! rnews 1990 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!news.= mathworks.com!hunter.premier.net!netnews.worldnet.att.net!news.u.washingt= on.edu!carson.u.washington.edu!rrcc From: Raymond Carlsen Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C128D keyboard weirdness (REPOST) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:37:11 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII To: "William R. Ward" In-Reply-To: > My C128D acts very oddly. All keys work fine except for the keys 7, > Y, G, V, 8, U, H, and B. Those keys do semi-random things, as if > there's a short somewhere between the rows/columns of the keyboard > matrix. It isn't the CIA chip; I've tried 3 of them. It isn't the > keyboard; it works fine on other computers (with a DB25 > gender-changer, it'll work on a flat 128). I suspect a bad trace on > the motherboard between the CIA and the keyboard connector. Look also for any component on that line (column 3), which is the keyboard connector CN5 pin 17. There are several tiny capactors and a diode that act to keep the line clean of noise. If, for example, the line were being held down by a leaky cap (normally has 5 VPP pulses on it), the response from the CIA chip would be false. For comparison, check the other columns. The voltage swing should be "rail to rail", that is, nearly all the way to +5 and ground. The only way to see what's happening is with an oscilloscope. As you said, a resistance check of the traces is in order. Column 3 is common to all of those keys. Anything that would let noise enter on that line (such as a crack in the board) will cause erratic operation. Ray Carlsen CARLSEN ELECTRONICS... A leader in trailing-edge technology. #! rnews 1174 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.co= m!nntp.primenet.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net!ukn= et!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!usenet From: wanderer_rtc@usa.pipeline.com(R. T. Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C128D keyboard weirdness (REPOST) Date: 31 Jul 1996 04:56:56 GMT Organization: BBS SysOp Extraordinaire Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4tmp2o$hm5@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.231.4 X-PipeUser: wanderer_rtc X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (R. T. Cunningham) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 On Jul 31, 1996 02:46:39 in article , 'hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward)' wrote:=20 =20 >I'm totally befuddled by this. Has anyone out there experienced=20 >anything like this?=20 =20 I did once. Took me a long time to figure out it was joystick port 1 causing the problem (I had a joystick plugged in). Somehow, I don't thin= k this is the same thing.=20 =20 --=20 =20 Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer)=20 SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ=20 A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892 #! rnews 1635 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp04.primenet.com!news.shkoo.co= m!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.ne= t!news2.epix.net!xy3951 From: xy3951@news.epix.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Earth Orbit Stations (EA) Date: 31 Jul 1996 03:35:04 GMT Organization: epix.net Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4tmk98$fs1@star.epix.net> References: <4t0ssm$cc8@News.IDT.NET> <31F690F1.4BC2@ix.netcom.com> <4tk2= 6b$ona@news.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plum.epix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] drake thomas ( phd posi) (tdrake1@umbc.edu) wrote: : Quantum Leaper (dbelter@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : : jms7@mail.idt.net wrote: : : >=20 : : > Am I the only one who still plays this game? : : No but I haven't played the game in about a year. It one of my : : favorite games behind MULE. Have you have saved Mars on the=20 : : hardest setting? : Where can one still buy this game?? : Tom : -- : -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- : Thomas Drake |From an 80-column Atari 8-bit Home Computer... : tdrake1@umbc.edu | Through the telephone, off of the server, : Test First! Then Code! | over the T-1 backbone, nothing but 'Net! I think that Softwre Support International still has copies No. c014069=20 at 8.97. There number is 1-800-356-1179, and I still play this game and=20 it is great. The nice part is that when your time runs out, you can=20 still keep playing and find out what happens, and really get good at the=20 game without a time limt hanging over your head. :) I love the game. :) = =20 Of course I love any space-type games. :) Dan Barber #! rnews 2065 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!news2.epix.net!xy3951 From: xy3951@news.epix.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C=3D64 parts Date: 31 Jul 1996 03:50:26 GMT Organization: epix.net Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4tml62$fs1@star.epix.net> References: <4t37mc$f8g@peabody.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plum.epix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] BOWEN JASON MICHAEL (bowenjm@ucsub.Colorado.EDU) wrote: : I used to own a C=3D64 but I sold it to a friends younger brother in 89= and : haven't used one since. I am living with the older brother and found o= ut : from him that his younger brother still has the 64 along with the 1541 = and : I probably could just get it back from him. I was wondering if there a= re : any sources of parts for them anymore. I have been lurking for a while : and I have been getting all giddy thinking about the old days. It has : been sitting in a shed for a while so I assume that it might not work b= ut : I would like to give it a try. Any info would be appreciated. : Jason=20 Yes, there are many places for parts. One of the bigest is Kasara=20 Microsystems at 1-800-248-2983. Another is Creative Micro Designs at=20 1-800-638-3263. Still another is Paxtron at 1-800-595-5534, let me know=20 if you need any more. :) By the way-before you power up that system, get= =20 yourself a grounding strap (or attach a wire to a ring and wear the ring)= =20 and attach it to ground (the screw that holds the face plate of a=20 electral outlet works well), and clean it out with isopropyl alachol. =20 Other wise you might burn it out when you try to run it. Another tip is to put a fan on the 1541 and power supplies when running=20 them, makes them last MUCH longer. And when you are cleaning, BE=20 CAREFUL! Use cotton swabs and watch you don't scrach any heads in the=20 1541. YOu might want to buy a little computer vacume and suck all the=20 dust out before you use the swabs (less chance of scratching that way). Let me know if you have any problems. :) Dan Barber