#! rnews 2278 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!torn!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!schepers From: schepers@dcs1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Schepers) Subject: Re: Transactors for sale Message-ID: Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca Nntp-Posting-Host: dcs1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo References: <4t918j$s6b@news= 2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:48:47 GMT Lines: 36 In article <4t918j$s6b@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com>, R. T. Cunningham wrote: >Didn't later issues cover the 128 as well?=20 They also covered the Amiga (for a short time) until the Transactor Amiga came out. > Anyway, I have no idea what >kind of value you place on these magazines. I really think your >sentimentality would best be served by distributing the "hard-to-find" >information contained in those pages. If I was in your position, with t= hat >much information in one place, I'd definitely be looking to scan it all = in, >trim the fat, and re-publish the information without infringing on the >rights of the authors.=20 I considered it, but the amount of work to scan them all in (just the scanning and storage) is not worth it to me. These mags had virtually no ads, and ran 75 pages+. I would guesstimate that each page (high quality= ) would be a 75-100k jpg, so you do the math (75-100 pages, 75-100k each, 3= 6 mags). It doesn't take much to see it would take a CD to distribute it. If you did a OCR, that would reduce the size down *dramatically*, but you would run into the problem of mixing the pix and the text (since there ar= e some graphics as well). >But then again, that's what *I* would do.=20 Well then buy them and do it! I've got enough going to keep me busy for several years. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Peter Schepers, |=20 Dept. of Computing Services, | The opinions expressed in the above University of Waterloo, | rant are those of the poster, and no= t Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. | necessarily shared by anybody else o= n 1-519-885-1211 ext 2456 | this planet (or employer). #! rnews 673 From: VirginiaK@msn.com (Virginia Kappner) Subject: Commodore computers Date: 26 Jul 96 23:05:00 -0700 Message-ID: <00001be0+000033f8@msn.com> Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!news-res.gsl.net!new= s.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsreader.sprintli= nk.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-4.sprintlink.net!news.msn.com!msn.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com) Lines: 4 The school where I work has Commodore equipment and some software. =20 We are not going to sell it, but would be happy to have someone take=20 it for parts. Must pay shipping, however. Please direct questions=20 to VirginiaK@msn.com #! rnews 1824 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeeder.sdsu.= edu!in-news.erinet.com!inquo!news.seinf.abb.se!news.mdh.se!news From: dal95acn@mds.mdh.se (Anders Carlsson SdU) Newsgroups: comp.emulators.cbm,comp.sys.cbm Subject: Does this game exist? Date: 27 Jul 1996 01:55:38 +0200 Organization: Student Union at the university of M=E4lardalen, Sweden. Lines: 31 Sender: dal95acn@legolas.mdh.se Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: legolas.mdh.se X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com comp.emulators.cbm:12809 comp.sys.cbm:58573 Hello all Commodore 64-gamers out there. I guess most of you remember Archon and Archon II - Adept from Electronic Arts back in the 80s. I certainly do, and I still have copies of these for my old 64. Anyhow, I have a vague memory of an Archon III too, released sometime late 1984 to early 1986. I can't remember what this game was called, but I think it was something on "G". Neither I can recall what the game play was like, as I never really played it, but only saw it running. The thing was my brother got a tape of games, among them was this one, and he accidently recorded other software onto this tape before he had taken a backup on it. Why I think this game was another sequel to Archon is that I think it was a Free Fall production, and it had the same size of screen (and possibly board) as Archon and Adept. I've looked in game directories, asked software houses but without any result. I haven't found Free Fall yet, and I haven't asked EA either, but I guess that's not worth it. In the worst case, it might have been a totally different game than the one I think of. If anybody can tell whether such a game existed or not, and what it's name was if it did, I'd be very happy! Sincerely Anders Carlsson, dal95acn@mds.mdh.se #! rnews 1173 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net= !uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!usenet From: wanderer_rtc@usa.pipeline.com(R. T. Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Transactors for sale Date: 26 Jul 1996 23:49:33 GMT Organization: BBS SysOp Extraordinaire Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4tblid$dbj@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.231.3 X-PipeUser: wanderer_rtc X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (R. T. Cunningham) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 On Jul 26, 1996 15:48:47 in article , 'schepers@dcs1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Schepers)' wrote:=20 =20 >>But then again, that's what *I* would do. =20 >=20 >Well then buy them and do it! I've got enough going to keep me busy for=20 >several years.=20 =20 Well....considering the true value, I can't even guess at how much you wa= nt for one, much less all. Uh...how much you want? :-)=20 =20 --=20 =20 Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer)=20 SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ=20 A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892 #! rnews 614 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mel.hargray.com!usenet From: luetzow Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Need help c64 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 20:48:02 -0500 Organization: InterStar corp. Lines: 5 Message-ID: <31F97552.5D7D@hargray.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.218.96.114 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Please help me find saucer attack for the 64. I can find everything else. Can anyone help? =20 luetzow@hargray.com thanks Ben #! rnews 9678 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!conch.aa.msen.com!not-for-mail From: brain@mail.msen.com (Jim Brain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Commodore Hacking Followup Date: 26 Jul 1996 23:53:19 -0400 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI Lines: 192 Sender: brain@msen.com Message-ID: References: <4t8eh9$o7l@pravda.aa.msen.com> <4t9c0g$h40@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: conch.aa.msen.com X-Newsreader: Yarn 0.90 with YES 0.22 X-URL: http://www.msen.com/~brain/ Earlier, I wrote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ) In light of this post, how do folks propose I change the distribution o= f the ) magazine. Evidently, this ARMM system will make publication of C=3DH a= nd ) others like DisC=3Dovery impossible via the newsgroup.=20 ) As the FAQ maintainer (and the pseudo-contact person, though not really= ), ) I suppose I can ask that this newsgroup be excluded from the ARMM ) check list by marking it so. =20 ) However, I will not act until I hear from some of th regulars and ) new users of this group. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Bill Ward Replied: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - The Commodore Hacking newsletter isn't a binary, so what's the problem? Why did it get canceled? Or are you including UUENCODED files as part of the magazine (I sure hope not!)?? At any rate, you should contact the person who runs the cancelbot and get them to exclude C=3D Hacking, IMHO. Then repost it. --Bill. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - I also wrote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - >Commodore Hacking has traditionally been posted to the newsgroup as well >as made available via email to present to the largest possible audience >of Commodore owners. Certain users either cannot receive large messages >via email, while others simply do not have reliable email access. >Most do not have either FTP or WWW access. In the beginning, there was = no >binaries newsgroup to post to, and I am somewhat unconvinced there is >one currently. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - And Todd Elliott replied: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - I would suggest that you do not include binaries with C=3DHacking. The re= ason is that I print them out. I'm sure other readers print them out. I often have to strip out the binaries to get printable text. Secondly, C=3DHacking was a combination file of text and binary. Maybe th= at Net Cop was only referring to binaries only. Did he send you an email personally? If so, and you feel that C=3DHacking must continue with the binaries, then get the readers of comp.sys.cbm's support to make a limite= d exception. Another alternative is to assume the role as a moderator of the comp.sys. binaries. That way, you also control the distribution channel, just like CBM acquiring MOS technologies for vertical integration. ;) Todd -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Larry Haynes also quoted thusly: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - If the problem is strictly the uuencoded portions, leave the mag as is and post the uuencoded portions to comp.binaries.cbm. It is still=20 available, supposidly moderated, and rarely used. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - And Nick Bensema replied to Todd's Post and Mine: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - It would be best to place the binaries on an ftp site somewhere and put a link to them in C=3D Hacking, which allows those with Netscape to get to them easily and those with knowledge of mail-to-FTP gateways to be able to get them if they don't have access, and those who print them out to ge= t them if they do. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - R Cunningham followed up: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Jim, I think either you misunderstood what was being reported, or the sender is not stating the facts correctly. He states binary postings (MIME, UUENCODE, etc.). The FAQ itself is not binary in nature, only som= e of the included programs. I think they are checking the size of the post= s and assuming binaries without checking the content. I am going to addres= s this issue in particular to the net abuse cronies.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - and then followed up to his follow up: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - You already know my thoughts. I say do whatever is easiest for you to do= .=20 I know that it's very time consuming to do the regular postings that you do. And we ALL appreciate it!=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - To Bill Ward: Commodore Hacking has always contained uuencoded binaries, since Issue 2,= =20 I believe. The entire magazine, including uuencoded binaries, has always been posted... The cancelbot cancels any msg that is over 100000 bytes AND contains a=20 binary greater than, say 50 lines of text. Thus, it caught the magazine. I have made contact with the 'bot admin and he has offered to exclude the magazine from being cancelled. However, I asked him to hold off as I try to determine the wants of the group (the gracious and powerless non- moderator of this groups that I am...) If many really would rather the mag not be posted, then I say let's take that route. It's really no easi= er for me to post it then not, as it takes 30 senconds.... To Todd Elliott: I understand the concern you and others share in trying to print out C=3DHacking and having to strip the bins. However, the reason the bins a= re=20 included is to make distribution and the copyright issue foolproof. If the bins were separated, I would then be forced to send copies of the bin= s to people who read the issue from LOADSTAR or some other third-party distrib= ution that did not include the bins (lazy, misread, or otherwise...) Therefore= , it would make my life harder if the two were separated. However, to help you out, the entire magazine is going to be available on my Internet site as a collection of text files and the bins (not encoded) in a zip file. doing a print *.txt (or equivalent on the Commodore) on t= his archive after decompressing would yield the results you are looking for. = In fact, i could create a simple BASIC file that rpints out the issue in its correct format. Would that help? As to making an exception, such is easily performed. The admin has alrea= dy offered to make an exception for the Commodore Hacking magazine. I am si= mply holding off on asking for it. As to the comp.binaries.cbm moderation, thanks but no thanks. I have=20 enough on my plate.... To Larry Haynes: As I stated above to Todd, splitting the magazine into two parts would ma= ke it harder to distribute and more prone to being partially distributed. The extra folks asking for bins from me would sap extra time away from my=20 endevors. I won't asay I won't pursue this, but it'll have to be thought= on. To Nick Bensema: Each issue of C=3DHacking is available at http://www.msen.com/~brain/chac= king/ in addition to the text version, an HTML version is avaulable. Also,=20 each bin is available at http://www.msen.com/~brain/pub/XXXX, where XXXX = is the name of the bin you want. The files are also available on the Hackin= g MAILSERV, for those with email only. So, in essence, I already make them available via alternate means. To: R Cunningham: I was not referring to the FAQ, but the magazine. As stated above , both the size and the fact that a uuencoded binary was included triggered the system. As to your second post, I do want to minimize my effort in this matter, b= ut I am willing to put exra effortin to implement these suggestions if the groups so requests. Also, there is no mandate that I post the magazine in the USENET newsgroup. In fact, I am leaning toward merely posting a "pointer" to the magazine.... Dunno though. I appreciate the commendatio= ns. Asking in here is my way of being a good "netizen". To all: I have a couple of options, listed below: They are ranked in order that I would like you to consider them: --------------------------------------- a) 1 Request an exclusion for the magazine. b) 1 post only a pointer to the magazine in the newsgroup, and put the m= ag elsewhere. c) 2 Post the magazine, but strip the uuencoded bins from the issue. =20 -------------------------------------- If it is important that you receive the mag via USENET, vote for a or c. If you feel the 190-280 kB file is is simply too big for a posting, bins or not, vote for b. Let me know at some point, since you can;t get mad at me later on if you didn't give your opinion at this time..... Above all, don't be too hard on the 'bot admin.... Yes, this time, it canceled a non-spam article that some may have wanted to read.... Howeve= r, I have seen a bunch of stuff that shows up in here that you all never see= , cause a similar 'bot cancels them as soon as they hit the server.... =20 Jim BTW, is anyone still needing a copy of the magazine????? Jim --=20 Jim Brain, Embedded System Designer, Brain Innovations, Inc. (BII)(offlin= e sig) j.brain@ieee.org "Above views DO reflect my employer, since I'm my empl= oyer" Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, VR, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!= -Me- Jim Brain: BII, VR, and CBM info #! rnews 2386 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!conch.aa.msen.com!not-for-mail From: brain@mail.msen.com (Jim Brain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Some serious thoughts on a new newsgroup.... Date: 26 Jul 1996 23:55:48 -0400 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI Lines: 55 Sender: brain@msen.com Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: conch.aa.msen.com X-Newsreader: Yarn 0.90 with YES 0.22 X-URL: http://www.msen.com/~brain/ I rarely get mixed up in this stuff, but rules are made to be broken.... I notice that a great many of you are lamenting about the large number of ads in this newsgroup.... You probably have me to blame..... I received hundreds of email letters each weeks from people. Many are lo= oking for places to buy or seel Commodore equipment. If the item is singular, I might take them up on the offer, but lately I've gotten letters from school admns with closets of old 64s.... etc. I can't buy or sell such volumes of equipment... SO, I refer them to post an ad in this newsgroup. It's probably my doing that so many postings show up here lately... GO ah= ead, hate me.... Anyway, I think the problem is acute and I do think this groups has enoug= h content without ads to make a go of it...=20 Therefore, I suggest that others consider the notion of creating comp.sys.cbm.forsale. I know a plit has its problems, but unlike the emulator groups creation dispute, most people looking for items can;t really take part in other discussions, as most are looking for a system they don't own... Also, people interested in discussions are rarely in the market for itmes,=20 although I know exceptions occur in both cases. I guess I just think that the Commodore community is grwing, and this newsgroup, created in 1989 or so, is simply too "hopping" with interest. In short, I think your patronage has created this problem. Bummer :-) It'sjust a thought, and I just thought I would drop the idea in your head. I know it's been thrown out before, but I never knew what became of the idea.... Return to your regular messages. Jim --=20 Jim Brain, Embedded System Designer, Brain Innovations, Inc. (BII)(offlin= e sig) j.brain@ieee.org "Above views DO reflect my employer, since I'm my empl= oyer" Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, VR, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!= -Me- Jim Brain: BII, VR, and CBM info #! rnews 2630 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!m= r.net!news.mr.net!cronkite.polaristel.net!news From: damborn@hutchtel.net (Dan Amborn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: KoalaHelp Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:55:18 GMT Organization: Mustangs International, Inc. Lines: 50 Message-ID: <31f970bd.8511456@news.polaristel.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.9.115.6 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 On 26 Jul 1996 02:48:37 GMT, hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) wrote= : >I found an old Commodore type Koala pad at a surplus store a while >back. I don't even know if the thing works. It came without stylus >or any software. I think any pointed object will do as a stylus, >right? However I still don't have a copy of Koalapaint. Is there any >PD software that uses the KoalaPad? I dont know how else I can even >know if the thing works. > >Another possibility would be if someone knew how KoalaPads worked, and >wanted to write and mail me a ML routine that tested the thing. That >would be grand. > >Anyway, thanks for any help. > >--Bill. > >-- >William R Ward Bay View Consulting http://www.bayview.com/~he= rmit/ >hermit@bayview.com 1803 Mission St. #339 voicemail +1 408/479= -4072 >hermit@cats.ucsc.edu Santa Cruz CA 95060 USA pager +1 408/458= -8862 You can read the Koala Pad like a pair of paddles by reading memory locat= ions 54297, 54298 and 56321 by connecting to control port one. X direction is read by peeking location 54297 and gives a value of 5 norm= ally at the upper left and 255 at the far right. Y direction is read by peeking location 54298 and gives a value of 5 norm= ally at the upper left and 255 at the bottom. The two top buttons are read from location 56321. Without any buttons pr= essed I get 255. The left button gives me 251 and the right gives 247. Since you have a Koala Pad without the proper software, I can send you a = copy of the Koala Paint software that came with it if you want. Since it is worthless with= out the Koala Pad no one should bark about me sending it to you, I think. Besides, your Ko= ala Pad should have had it in the first place. Just send me a disk and 4 postage stamps= if you want a copy. Email me for my address. I don't hear about too many people using= the Koala Pad anymore. It would be nice to revive one once in a while. Had a lot of f= un with mine when I purchased it new in '83 or '84. The Koalapaint images made by myself a= nd my friends bring back many fond memories. Gee...I think I'm getting old...Oh nooo. = :-) -- Dan Amborn damborn@hutchtel.net =END=