#! rnews 847 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!newsfeeder.sdsu.edu! news.sgi.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!surfnet.nl!news.unisource.nl!news.ti p.nl!Ton.van.Nuland From: Ton.van.Nuland@tip.nl (Ton van Nuland) Subject: Wanted: Commodore PET 2001-series micro computer X-Nntp-Posting-Host: denbosch01.pop.tip.nl Message-ID: <19960724215911548177@denbosch01.pop.tip.nl> Sender: news@tip.nl (The News User) Organization: The Internet Plaza X-Newsreader: MacSOUP 2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 19:59:11 GMT Lines: 10 Wanted: Commodore PET 2001-series micro computer, 32KB model with large keyboard or someone that can fix this machine. -- _____ | |\ | Ton van Nuland - Oss - The Netherlands | \ / | \ | mailto:Ton.van.Nuland@tip.nl | \/ | \| Supporter of Apple Macintosh & Ajax Amsterdam #! rnews 1779 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state. edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infinet.com!news From: "Michael Bendure" Newsgroups: comp.emulators.cbm,comp.emulators.misc,comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Legacy Of The Ancients - LOTA Date: 25 Jul 1996 00:24:12 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 26 Message-ID: <01bb79bf$aece7120$0bf667ce@mbendure.infinet.com> References: <4t4khf$93o@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: nwk-p011.infinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1132 Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com comp.emulators.cbm:12752 comp.emulators.misc:12028 comp.sys.cbm:58433 Corby Michael Johanneson wrote in article <4t4khf$93o@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>... > Unfortunately, we still havn't found a working copy of this > wicked EA classic - and you better not be holding out on > us... because we WILL find you and we will EAT you where you > stand. So, it's in your best interests to come forward if you > have a functional disk image (be it cracked, hacked, or an > original copy of the game). Heheh, that is a good game. Was playing it last night for the first time in years. I also liked the Legend of Blacksilver and a few others. Sorry, not looking to get rid of my original. Last I looked Software Support Int, had a few copies for sale. -- C-Net 64 DS2 Software WWW: http://www.infinet.com/~mbendure 92 Lee Ave Suite N3 Email: mbendure@infinet.com Newark, Ohio 43055 IRC: #C-Net on Efnet (614)/788-8568 CommNet: Mitron @ Cygnus X-1 Cygnus X-1 BBS (614)/522-6563 #! rnews 1319 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!tank.news.pipex. net!pipex!news.be.innet.net!INbe.net!news.nl.innet.net!INnl.net!hunter.premier. ne t!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com! in2.uu.net!ott.istar!istar.net!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!InfoNET.st-johns. n .ca!abe0084 From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Star NX1000C printer file for Pocket Writer? Date: 25 Jul 1996 00:22:35 GMT Organization: St. John's InfoNET Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4t6eob$c47@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: infonet.st-johns.nf.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I just got this Star printer used a while ago, and it came with no manual. I am looking to get it working with my wordprocessors. The printer selection screen for Pocket Writer II does not seem to have my printer listed at all, or anything similar. I also have Paperclip. This WP seems to have a printer file for a Star printer, but not for the specific one I have. Paperclip seems to work OK with this printer selection, but I just thought I'd ask in case I run into problems later. So does anyone have a printer driver file for either of those programs for my printer? - Adam P.S. Anyone have a manual for a Star printer that they have no use for? #! rnews 2056 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!news. mathworks.com!hunter.premier.net!netnews.worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu! di spatch.news.demon.net!demon!dellos.demon.co.uk From: mclane@dellos.demon.co.uk (Mclane) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Good Ol' Jumpman Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:01:49 GMT Organization: Spelunker / JumpMan Co Lines: 35 Message-ID: <31f6866a.5196381@news.demon.co.uk> References: <4t3n9k$3jf@krel.iea.com> Reply-To: mclane@dellos.demon.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: dellos.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: dellos.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 On 23 Jul 1996 23:29:55 GMT, jtravis@comtch.iea.com (Jon Abernathy) wrote: >I've recently been playing both Jumpman and Jumpman Jr. to death for the >umpteenth time (I always seem to rediscover this game), and often consider >it to be up there with the all time best/classic C-64 games. The question >I have is, has there ever been a Jumpman editor/creator utility created >for it? i.e. Boulderdash has the Boulderdash Construction Set, both >(Ultimate) Wizard (a Jumpman clone) and Lode Runner had built-in >editor/creators, etc. Was there ever one made for Jumpman? And if so, >whereabouts could I get it? > Ermm...Yes and No. On the 8 bit...NO, sorry but AFAIK (99% sure) there have never been any editors either Epyx or shareware. Such a shame as its an all time fav of mine on both the Atari and the 64..That and Spelunker :) The possible good news is that there is a version on the PC called Jumpman Lives from Apogee which HAS an editor. Its a bit old now but Im sure Apogee still will have it (well I hope so as im after it myself!). Its a very good version as well, rather than try and up the graphics and sound to PC standard (IE ruin the game) the guy has kept the game the same (levels on shareware version are identical) and just added some so so start and end screens... Hope this helps... From a fellow Fan.... Paul `Mclane` Irvine --------------------- PC, ATARI8bit, C64 PSX, AMIGA, SNES & PCL Code Hacker #! rnews 1257 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!tank.news.pipex.net! pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!noao !CS.Arizona.EDU!ruby.ucc.nau.edu!dana.ucc.nau.edu!pap From: pap@dana.ucc.nau.edu (Paul Allen Panks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Games we love Date: 24 Jul 1996 21:16:21 GMT Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ, USA Lines: 26 Message-ID: <4t63r5$f4i@ruby.ucc.nau.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dana.ucc.nau.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] As if the Commodore 64 didn't need anymore Games publicity postings (hehehe...more games!), here's comes another one courtesy of moi. Anybody ever finish Spelunker on the 64? I've gotten down to the part with the door, but I found only one key and couldn't open the door. Also, in Ultima II, do you need a blank disk for the players? Mine came with a player's disk, but I am afraid to write information on to it for fear that it is a crucial disk for the game. Regards, Paul Allen Panks -- -- "Ooh! Mule! Doh! Pirates take all crystite! Arrghh! Why those little!!!,...Bart, get away from the keyboard! Hey, don't turn that off! Hey! Ooh! Donuts! Yum! Be right back!" Homer Simpson, on how to win at MULE on the C-64. #! rnews 1691 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!newsfeeder.sdsu.edu! news.sgi.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!ftp box!mothost!news-in.cig.mot.com!manatee!dalessio From: dalessio@manatee.cig.mot.com (Mario D'Alessio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Good Ol' Jumpman Date: 24 Jul 96 20:29:45 GMT Organization: Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <4t3n9k$3jf@krel.iea.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: manatee.cig.mot.com jtravis@comtch.iea.com (Jon Abernathy) writes: >I've recently been playing both Jumpman and Jumpman Jr. to death for the >umpteenth time (I always seem to rediscover this game), and often consider >it to be up there with the all time best/classic C-64 games. The question >I have is, has there ever been a Jumpman editor/creator utility created >for it? i.e. Boulderdash has the Boulderdash Construction Set, both >(Ultimate) Wizard (a Jumpman clone) and Lode Runner had built-in >editor/creators, etc. Was there ever one made for Jumpman? And if so, >whereabouts could I get it? The PC version of Jumpman released by Apogee a long time ago came with an editor (though it didn't support all the "special" things such as the flying saucers). Mario ********************************************************** * ____ ____ ___ * * __/\__ Mario D'Alessio ( oo ) //oo\\ /o o\ * * \RUSH/ dalessio@cig.mot.com \__/ \__/ \_O_/ * * |/\| Work: (847) 632-2323 Woo Woo * * 9am to 6pm Central Time Woo * ********************************************************** #! rnews 1156 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu! ennfs.eas.asu.edu!noao!CS.Arizona.EDU!ruby.ucc.nau.edu!dana.ucc.nau.edu!pap From: pap@dana.ucc.nau.edu (Paul Allen Panks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: CBM 9060 Hard Disk Date: 24 Jul 1996 21:02:16 GMT Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ, USALines: 23 Message-ID: <4t630o$f4i@ruby.ucc.nau.edu> References: <31E48553.54DF5FD3@ibm.net> <31E0362F.240A@hula.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dana.ucc.nau.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] litany@hula.net (litany@hula.net) wrote: : It is a beautiful thing, isn't it. : Now all you need is a delorian, some stange capacitor, and you can : go run a really incredible board 10 years ago. : Interested, does it still work alright? This is a stupid question, but can it be hooked up to work on the tried and true Commodore 64 w/ a 1541? Regards, Paul Allen Panks -- -- "Chickens may lay eggs, but roosters wake you up in the morning. Nobody pays them to do that. I do less work than that and I get paid. And I don't like eggs anyhow. Ooh! Bacon!" Homer Simpson, on subsidizing small-town agriculture. #! rnews 1106 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!ddi2.digital.net! news From: hendoman@digital.net (The Hendoman) Newsgroups: comp.emulators.cbm,comp.emulators.misc,comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Legacy Of The Ancients - LOTA Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 22:46:59 GMT Organization: FLORIDA ONLINE, Florida's Premier Internet Provider Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4t69m3$3gn@ddi2.digital.net> References: <4t4khf$93o@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.228.230.59 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com comp.emulators.cbm:12757 comp.emulators.misc:12033 comp.sys.cbm:58439 cmjohann@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca (Corby Michael Johanneson) wrote: >Unfortunately, we still havn't found a working copy of this >wicked EA classic - and you better not be holding out on You may remember Questor, a similar game, without all the distracting Coin work... That one was also my favorite. Geez. I still have Legacy O' The Ancients for Apple with a code disk! Amazing what you can find when you look around, eh? 8) #! rnews 854 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!newsreader.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!new-news. sprintlink .net!ddi2.digital.net!news From: hendoman@digital.net (The Hendoman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Commodore 128 Computer For Sale Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 22:49:23 GMT Organization: FLORIDA ONLINE, Florida's Premier Internet Provider Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4t69qi$3gn@ddi2.digital.net> References: <31F10F55.5DE@cyberenet.net> <4t39dp$lvl@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.228.230.59 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 >|> >|> A friend of mine asked me to post a Commodore 128 Computer for sale. >|> Asking $750.00, like brand new. Will throw in all games. >|> Please e-mail with questions or interest. WHEW! Is it just me, or is that a pretty high price for a C128? 8) #! rnews 1837 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeeder.sdsu.edu! chi-news.cic.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news. mathwor ks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsreader.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net! news-ana-24.sprintlink.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!m il2news.demon.co.uk!gate.demon.co.uk From: Jason Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Exotic Loader Cartridge??? Date: Wed, 24 Jul 96 22:41:44 GMT Organization: Cosine Systems Lines: 25 Message-ID: <9607242241.AA004uq@cosine.demon.co.uk> References: <4t3333$kgj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gate.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [AMIGA 1.3 950726BETA PL0] X-Mail2News-Path: relay-1.mail.demon.net!gate.demon.co.uk BigAJO: : Is there a different loader cartridge out there other than the Epyx? The : one I have in mind is one that has two buttons on the back of it. It : allows you to take a "memory picture" to aid in bypassing copy protection. Well it could be... Action Replay (v1 to v6 pro) Snapshot or Super Snapshot Expert (anything up to v4.2) Final Cartridge (v1 to v3) Freeze Frame (sorry, I don't know the history on this one) or possibly a hybrid of one or more of the above or maybe a DIY blown EPROM. Any clues? =-) Jason =-) _______________________________________________________________________ TMR / / / / / / / /\ / /__/ / / /__/ / / / /__/ Email: tmr@cosine.demon.co.uk / / / /\_/ / /__ / / / / __// Cosine Homepage: / / / /__/ / / / / / / / / / Moving soon! New site found... / / /_____/_____/_____/__/__/__/_____/_____________________________________/ / \_____\_____\_____\__\__\__\_____\_____________________________________\/ #! rnews 1511 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.primenet.com! nickb From: nickb@Primenet.Com (Nick S Bensema) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Good Ol' Jumpman Date: 24 Jul 1996 16:18:02 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4t6ava$ldk@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4t3n9k$3jf@krel.iea.com> <31f6866a.5196381@news.demon.co.uk> X-Posted-By: nickb@usr09.primenet.com In article <31f6866a.5196381@news.demon.co.uk>, Mclane wrote: >On 23 Jul 1996 23:29:55 GMT, jtravis@comtch.iea.com (Jon Abernathy) >wrote: > >The possible good news is that there is a version on the PC called >Jumpman Lives from Apogee which HAS an editor. Its a bit old now but >Im sure Apogee still will have it (well I hope so as im after it >myself!). >Its a very good version as well, rather than try and up the graphics >and sound to PC standard (IE ruin the game) the guy has kept the game >the same (levels on shareware version are identical) and just added >some so so start and end screens... Last time I read the Apogee FAQ, they said it was discontinued. Read it again... I might be wrong, or they could have changed their minds. -- N i c k B e n s e m a KUPD Red Card #710563 ,-._|\ " " " " " " " " " " " """""""""""""""""""" ''''''''''''''''''''' / \ On 22 July, 1996, at 6:00 pm GMT, I expected everyone in Phoenix-->*_,--._/ in the world to just START HUMMING. They didn't. Darn. v #! rnews 873 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! enews.sgi.com!news.uoregon.edu!kaiwan.kaiwan.com!not-for-mail From: coolhand@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Roger W Lueck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Driven #15 Date: 24 Jul 1996 16:30:34 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712, 714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Lines: 10 Message-ID: <4t6bmq$822@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kaiwan009.kaiwan.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Driven #15 (the C64 Demo Scene disk mag) has just been released. It is available now on most c64 ftp sites including ftp.eskimo.com /u/t/tpinfo and ftp.vgernet.net /pub/mpython and on the Driven home page at URL http://soho.ios.com/~coolhnd If anybody needs a uuencoded email copy, please email me at coolhand@kaiwan.com and I will be glad to get one out to you. Bill #! rnews 1503 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.pe.net!news.pe.net!not-for-mail From: kh6zv9@victoria.pe.net (bob masse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: dir/editor/fd2000 Date: 24 Jul 1996 16:41:52 -0700 Organization: PE.net - Internet access from the Press-Enterprise Company Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4t6cc0$m3g@victoria.pe.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: victoria.pe.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Donovan Dyer (novan@delphi.com) wrote: : : I have a dir editor that I use called Dedit.128 v7.0. It works very good. : So good in fact, I'm trying to get around to sending the writer some money :) : All I need is a RoundTuiT. BUT, you didn't say if you are using a 128 or 64. : So this info maynot do you any good. I think there is a copy of it on the CMD : Utilities disks, I got my copy here on Delphi where all the Commies meet :) On that same disk you should fine Yoner's 64 version called Dedit.64 v7.1. Send him the lousy 5 bucks. The program is worth 3 times that much. : : As for lines separating file groups, I've used ----------------- and ++++++++ : or ############ or whatever came to mind. Open up a file in a wordwriter prog, : the best is ZED, and name it ---------------- or whatever, and save it. With Jiffy dos I just type @0:-------1-------- and then put them where I want them. Bob kh6zv9@pe.net #! rnews 2267 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!noc.nyx.net!nyx10.cs.du.edu!not-for-mail From: btabke@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Brett Tabke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: CBM 8050 with a C128? Date: 24 Jul 1996 22:12:02 -0600 Organization: University of Denver, Math/CS Dept. Lines: 45 Message-ID: <4t6s6i$98a@nyx10.cs.du.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nyx10.nyx.net (Peter Karlsson) Writes: PK> Today I bought a CBM 8050 dual disk drive at a flea-market. I got it, PK> Now, I was wondering if this beauty in any way could be connected to PK> my C128? It has a parallel IEEE connector, but I believe that there PK> are interfaces to connect them to the C128's serial IEEE bus, right? PK> Peter - m9944@abc.se - Fidonet 2:204/145.42 You bet. Get an IEEE Quicksilver Flash interface. (I believe CMD sells them). There is also E-Link 128 that was made by Progressive Peripherals. (hard to find.) Quicksilver (Flash) is a plugin cartridge and ROM combo. You will have to replace the 128 Kernal ROMs for it to work. (JDOS or other fast load ROMs are incompatible). E-Link is a serial port device in a VIC cartridge case. It is very, very slow and most fast loaders hang it and the bus. (not the best choice). Flash is fairly compatible with most generic programs. Sure your not going to run anything with a fast loader off the 8050, but most word pros, terms, and other utilities run fine off the IEEE drives. The only 128 program that has ever crashed just because the kernal rom was replaced, is Desterm. I don't know if that is the case with DesTerm V2 or not - I never bothered to run it after V1 crashed with it. I've run a homebrew Quick Flash 128 (easily built but you gotta have the kernal ROM/s) and a pair of SFD 1001's for years. PK> - May not be distributed via the microsoft network cool tag! Brett Tabke []::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::[] [] PHD Software Systems : INET: btabke@nyx.net [] [] PO Box 23 : FIDO: 1:366/221 [] [] Moville, IA. USA 51039 : Home of Spray Paint 128 [] []::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::[] #! rnews 2275 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infinet.com!news From: "Michael Bendure" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Wanting to buy a C64 Date: 25 Jul 1996 00:06:46 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 40 Message-ID: <01bb79bd$3e5bbd00$0bf667ce@mbendure.infinet.com> References: <4t1q6i$grt@news.jhu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nwk-p011.infinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1132 Zsolt Szabo wrote in article <4t1q6i$grt@news.jhu.edu>... > I would like to buy a C64 + 1541. However, I need to know how I can > cost-effectively transfer files from my Amiga to the C64. I'm looking in > the $30-40 range for the combo. You may try thrift stores or garage sales in order to get those prices. You may get lucky here if someone is just throwing one away. Most folks sell the 64 for at least $25.00-$35.00, then the drives are usually as much or more than that. Good luck in your quest, you may need it. :) > Also I don't want to pay shipping charges if possible, so anyone in Maryland (in the vicinity of Baltimore) who's > selling their C64--I will come and pick it up in person. Again, if your looking locally, try the thrift stores and garage sales. :) > Another pre-requisite: it has to connect to an RGB monitor (that is, it > has to come with an RGB connector similar to the one that Amigas use). Then you won't be able to use the 64. Most Amiga RGB monitors do have RCA jacks on the back as well as the 9 pin plug your refering to. The 64 would have to plug into the RCA jacks. A 128 will use the RGB port just fine, but only in 128 mode. Plus the 128 will run you about twice what I quoted the 64's go for above. Again, you may get lucky and find someone giving one away, but don't hold your breath.. :) -- C-Net 64 DS2 Software WWW: http://www.infinet.com/~mbendure 92 Lee Ave Suite N3 Email: mbendure@infinet.com Newark, Ohio 43055 IRC: #C-Net on Efnet (614)/788-8568 CommNet: Mitron @ Cygnus X-1 Cygnus X-1 BBS (614)/522-6563 #! rnews 1889 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!usenet From: wanderer_rtc@usa.pipeline.com(R. T. Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Advertisements reflected signs of the times Date: 24 Jul 1996 23:42:46 GMT Organization: BBS SysOp Extraordinaire Lines: 38 Message-ID: <4t6cdm$9pp@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.8.231.3 X-PipeUser: wanderer_rtc X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (R. T. Cunningham) X-Newsreader: Pipeline v3.5.0 Looking at those prices in comparison to the PC's of the time, they were still good deals. Times may have changed, but the fact that the PC's are still overpriced hasn't. --- On Jul 23, 1996 21:33:46 in article , 'pluton@hades.cls.de (Jens Ellerbrock)' wrote: >Paul Allen Panks (pap@dana.ucc.nau.edu) wrote: >> A more obvious example would be if I pulled out the April 1984 issue of >> Compute!'s Gazette. They were still advertising Vic-20s for $89.00, the >> BRAND-NEW!- Commodore 364 (aka Plus/4) for "Call!", and the C= commodore >> 64 for $229.00 > >Well that's still kind of cheap. I paid almost 1000 deutschmarks (must >have been about 300 $ back then) for my c64 in '83. > >Jens >-- >Jens Ellerbrock * Holtenauer Str 162 * 24105 Kiel * pluton@hades.cls.de >"BELIEVE AND DECEIVE" ><> * Tel: 0431 / 806890 * Modem/x75: 0431 / 84749 >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Tired and bored of your operating system ? >Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! >Worked for me all the times. >-- Linus Torvalds -- -- Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer) SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892 #! rnews 2752 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infinet.com!news From: "Michael Bendure" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: CKIT 94 - Dongle! Date: 25 Jul 1996 00:17:18 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 56 Message-ID: <01bb79be$b7031400$0bf667ce@mbendure.infinet.com> References: <4sgaue$fpf@mksrv1.dseg.ti.com> <4sgmc1$qfs@news2.h1.usa.pipeline. com> <4sinvo$isl@sirius.cs.pdx.edu> <31EF855E.5E9C@orl.mindspring.com> <31F2DB9B.162C@orl.mindspring.com> <01bb78b4$fe1ed320$08f667ce@mbendure.infinet.com> <31F55CD7.32AB@orl.mindspring. com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nwk-p011.infinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1132 Radioactive Warrior wrote in article <31F55CD7.32AB@orl.mindspring.com>... > > So now we've resorted to using the newsgroups as a place to crack copy > > protection? I guess since your opinion of the software is that it sucks, > > the author doesn't deserve to sell anymore copies of his program? This is > > pretty pathetic folks. Especially considering MAD MAN is one of the few > > companies that still support our computers. One more nail in our coffins. > > What's your point? Yeah, like I have to tell ya. > > Whats next, GEOFax, The Wave or anything else that is put out by the > > companies still struggling to bring us some sort of software? You guys > > really make me sick. > > Hmmm. Yea, but how do you really feel? Come on now, don't hold back... Whats the point? > Do you ever think we might just "crack" to get the rise out of you idiots > that protest so much and if you would all shut up and go away so might we.?. Yeah, right. Just like if we quit arresting murderers, they will just dissappear. Get a clue.. > But, like dandruff, you make your presence well known so we might just as > well band together into groups just to discuss how silly you people really > are. We make our presence know because we would like to see future releases from other companies. Of course you folks could care less and we all know what you do in your little groups. Funny how proud you folks are about ripping people off and going to jail. > Do you really think I care that "we" make you sick? Of course you do, or you wouldn't do it in the first place. :) > Yea, I'm loosing sleep over it... Please, please forgive me- I'll never do it again... We already know you have no consious or morality. I guess thats one more thing to be proud of. Oh well, you may grow up one day, doesn't look like anytime soon however. #! rnews 1334 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!news. mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu. edu!n oao!CS.Arizona.EDU!ruby.ucc.nau.edu!dana.ucc.nau.edu!pap From: pap@dana.ucc.nau.edu (Paul Allen Panks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Games we love Date: 25 Jul 1996 00:32:36 GMT Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ, USA Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4t6fb4$h8l@ruby.ucc.nau.edu> References: <4t63r5$f4i@ruby.ucc.nau.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dana.ucc.nau.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Paul Allen Panks (pap@dana.ucc.nau.edu) wrote: BTW, is it best in MULE to sell all your goods in the 12th month when the mechtrons don't sell anything, or keep all your goods? which helps the colony more? How are goods vs. money scored? Regards, Paul Allen Panks : -- : -- : "Ooh! Mule! Doh! Pirates take all crystite! Arrghh! Why those : little!!!,...Bart, get away from the keyboard! Hey, don't turn that off! : Hey! Ooh! Donuts! Yum! Be right back!" : Homer Simpson, on how to win at MULE on the C-64. -- -- "Chickens may lay eggs, but roosters wake you up in the morning. Nobody pays them to do that. I do less work than that and I get paid. And I don't like eggs anyhow. Ooh! Bacon!" Homer Simpson, on subsidizing small-town agriculture. #! rnews 1879 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed. internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!agate!news.ucsc.edu!news.ucsc. ed u!hermit From: hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Converting C= files to IBM Date: 25 Jul 1996 01:00:15 GMT Organization: Computing and Telecommunications Services, UCSC Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <4shu9m$638@herald.concentric.net> <4si1o9$8jg@news2.h1.usa. pipeline.com> <31ed97da.19443390@nntp.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ese.ucsc.edu In-reply-to: jmcgee@mail.orion.org's message of Thu, 18 Jul 1996 01:49:18 GMT In article <31ed97da.19443390@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, jmcgee@mail.orion.org (Jack McGee) writes: )>You might save yourself a step or two by just using Novaterm and a standard )>PC term and sending it straight from the commie to the pc with translation )>on. There was a recent post about it, that you just use atx0 or 3 on your )>PC and dial the commie (with a line straight from modem to modem). After )>dialing just type ATA in Novaterm and it should connect within 45 seconds. ) Why bother with the modem? Why not just use a null modem cable ) between the machines, and then you are not restricted by modem speeds. If you have a Swiftlink or a simple RS232 adapter, then great. But the stock Commodore outputs TTL levels on its user port, which is not compatible with the RS232 voltages used by PC's. Since Commodore-specific modems are a lot easier to find and cheaper than the Swiftlink or RS232 adapter, it's a lot easier to just hook the modems together. --Bill. -- William R Ward Bay View Consulting http://www.bayview.com/~hermit/ hermit@bayview.com 1803 Mission St. #339 voicemail +1 408/479-4072 hermit@cats.ucsc.edu Santa Cruz CA 95060 USA pager +1 408/458-8862 =END=