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M0%/1QYAC@B"!6GR`(,/5%`7\`>$^2)6!!`A_KED,)7]`0T`!*)X!QU^Z@X`$ M7,*`-094_[Y``73S(#4#!"@4``H%&%!F#D&7@)H&!;#6``Jim Brain: BII, VR, and CBM info #! rnews 923 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!news-res.gsl.net!new= s.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.nap.net!fred.e= nteract.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: jspusa@ix.netcom.com(JSP) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: C64/128 SUPPORT Date: 23 Jul 1996 16:36:20 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4t2v24$4hp@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sfo-ca5-03.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Jul 23 9:36:20 AM PDT 1996 Come visit the C64/128 Internet hot spot! The JSP home page has a full C64/128 online catalog with great deals on hardware, software, peripherals, chips/ICs, repair, services and more! C64, 1541, C128, 1571 and much more in stock! Lowest prices, complete warranties, free technical support. Since 1988, JSP, your technological advantage company. JSP BOX 5060 SSF, CA 94083-5060 1(415)871-5158 Customer Service Center 24 Hrs. http://www.netcom.com/~jspusa/ #! rnews 1550 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf01= .news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: wshrake@aol.com (WShrake) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Vic-20 info posted here. Date: 23 Jul 1996 13:00:21 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 21 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4t30f5$hte@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <31f2e662.1261175@news.polaristel.net> Reply-To: wshrake@aol.com (WShrake) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com > Ward, I care. But sometimes we're all buzy and read the > posts but don't have the time to reply. I'm very interested > in a Vic20 FAQ. Guys, it will happen. But not right now. I have a busy life, with MANY more things to do than this. When it happens, I'll make it public knowledge. The world has waiting over a decade now; a few more months (at most) won't hurt. I should be a butt over the idea that people want me to spend all my time doing favors for others, but aren't personally interested enough to even reply to one post. What's that ... 30, maybe 60 seconds worth? No offense to anybody on this, but hey, who are we kidding? I have 24 hours, same as everyone else does. The difference is, I am MAKING the time to do this. Again, no offense. For now, I guess I just wanted confirmation that I'm not completely wasting my time. So, who else cares? Anybody? Later, all! As I said the first time, be patient. All in good time.... Ward #! rnews 863 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.sgi.com!news-res.gsl.net!new= s.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.co= m!not-for-mail From: bigajo@aol.com (BigAJO) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Exotic Loader Cartridge??? Date: 23 Jul 1996 13:45:07 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 8 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4t3333$kgj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: bigajo@aol.com (BigAJO) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Is there a different loader cartridge out there other than the Epyx? The one I have in mind is one that has two buttons on the back of it. It allows you to take a "memory picture" to aid in bypassing copy protection. The one I saw was probably european made. Any ideas please respond. I am willing to purchase one of these. Alan Orlaski BigAJO@aol.com #! rnews 810 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!fu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!suncom.rz.hu-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: h0142kdd@joker.rz.hu-berlin.de (Paul David Doherty) Newsgroups: rec.games.int-fiction,comp.sys.cbm,comp.emulators.cbm Subject: Beyond Zork/C128 needed Followup-To: rec.games.int-fiction Date: 23 Jul 1996 19:42:08 +0200 Organization: Humboldt Universitaet Berlin Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4t32tg$8o5@joker.rz.hu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: joker.rz.hu-berlin.de Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com rec.games.int-fiction:16454 comp.sys.cbm:58392 c= omp.emulators.cbm:12727 The subject line says it all. If you have the Commodore 128 version of Infocom's Beyond Zork (or any of the Solid Gold Infocoms for the C64), please tell me by e-mail. -- Dave #! rnews 18335 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!gatech!news.math= works.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net= !news.cc.sunysb.edu!usenet From: kaiser@pofvax.pnb.sunysb.edu (Robert D. Kaiser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Odyssey^2 and Odyssey^3 videogames FAQ Date: 23 Jul 1996 20:04:08 GMT Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook: Biophysics Dept Lines: 490 Message-ID: <4t3b7o$e14@abel.cc.sunysb.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: elondon.bio.sunysb.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ Robert D. Kaiser kaiser@pofvax.pnb.sunysb.edu Odyssey2 (Philips G7000) Odyssey3 Command Center (Philips Videopac + G7400) Welcome to the world of the Odyssey^2 and Odyssey^3 ! Magnavox's Odyssey^2 was a popular American videogame console, sold in the United States from 1978 and 1983. It never was quite as popular as the Atari 2600 or Mattel's Intellivision, but it did sell more units that the GCE Vectrex, Bally Astrocade, Emerson Arcadia 2001, Fairchild Channel F or the RCA System II. It is less well known that the Odyssey^2 was even more popular in Europe, where it was marketed by Magnavox's parent company, Philips Electronics. In Europe (and in other parts of the world as well) the Odyssey^2 was sold as the Philips G7000 Videopac console. In France, it was known as the Philips C52. Around 1983, the videogame market was beginning to contract, and the Odyssey^2 totally lost its market share to the next generation 8 bit videogames like the Colecovision, Atari 5200, and the original Nintendo. In order to compete, Magnavox developed their own next generation system, code named the Odyssey^3. Later press releases revealed that it would be termed the Command Center. The Odyssey^3 Command Center was to have 16k ROM, 16k RAM, and a capacity for detailed background and foreground graphics. The keyboard was redesigned to have more keys, and a real computer keyboard was added in place of the Odyssey^2's flat plastic membrane. There was a built in joystick holder, so that one person could use both joysticks at once, for arcade style games. The unit also had two planned accessories: A voice synthesizer and a 300 baud modem. The Odyssey^3 Command Center was hyped to the press, and previewed at the 1983 Consumer Electronics show. It never was released. For years, people searched for prototypes of this unit, although the chances of finding one were slim since only a few prototypes were made. In time, the Odyssey^3 became known as vaporware among most, and a 'holy grail' of videogame collectors among those who knew that a few prototypes really existed. Last year I made an amazing discovery: Philips had released the Odyssey^3 ! It was only sold for a limited time in 1983, and 16 cartridges were ever made for it - but it did exist! It was sold as the Philips Videopac + G7400. The Videopac + console had almost exactly the same internal hardware as the American Odyssey^3 prototype, but externally it was very different. The keyboard did indeed have extra keys, but a flat plastic membrane keyboard was used instead of a real keys to save costs. Also, there was no built in joystick holder. The Philips Videopac + G7400 could play four types of cartridges. (1) All the standard Odyssey^2 / Philips G7000 cartridges. The backward compatibility would ensure that many Odyssey owners would upgrade to this system and still be able to use all their old games. (2) A series of remakes, in which popular Odyssey^2/Philips G7000 games were re-released with high resolution, beautifully rendered background graphics, similar in quality to what one would see on a Colecovision. If these game were played on a regular Odyssey^2/ Philips G7000 the game would play just like the classic version, but the high-res background graphics would not be visible. (3) A series of totally new Odyssey games. These had standard Odyssey foreground graphics but also had high resolution background graphics. If these game were played on a regular Odyssey^2/Philips G7000 the game would play correctly, but the high-res background graphics would not be visible. (4) A series of totally new Odyssey^3/Philips G7400 only games that could only be played on the Odyssey^3 or G7400. These games not only had hi-res background graphics, but they had hi-res foreground graphics, scrolling screens, multiple screens and the ability for more complex gameplay. Only four such games were ever made: Norseman, Helicopter Rescue, Trans-American Ralley and the Home Computer Module. Rarity: C =3D Common U =3D Uncommon R =3D Rare ER =3D Extremely rare UR =3D Ultra Rare P =3D Only exists as confirmed prototype NR =3D Never released/No known prototypes. Games in this category may have been advertised, or just planned, but apprently never even made it to the prototype stage. ***************************************************************** * Magnavox Odyssey^2 * ***************************************************************** Model number / name Rarity ------------------------------------------------------------ AC9400 Speedway!/Spin-Out!/Crypto-Logic! C AJ9401 Blackjack! R AJ9402 Football! U AJ9403 Sub Chase!/Armored Encounter! C AJ9404 Bowling!/Basketball! U AJ9405 Math-a-Magic!/Echo! R AC9406 Computer Intro! U AJ9407 Matchmaker!/Buzzword!/Logix! C AJ9408 Baseball! C AJ9410 Computer Golf! U AJ9411 Cosmic Conflict! C AJ9412 Take the Money and Run! U AC9413 I've Got Your Number! R AK9414 Invaders From Hyperspace! C AK9415 Thunderball! R AK9416 Showdown in 2100 A.D. C AK9417 War of Nerves! U AK9418 Alpine Skiing! U AC9419 Out of This World!/Helicopter Rescue! R AK9420 Hockey!/Soccer! U AK9421 Dynasty! U AA9422 Volleyball! R AA9423 Electronic Table Soccer! R AC9424 Pocket Billiards R AA9425 Pachinko! R AA9426 Casino Slot Machine! U AA9427 Blockout!/Breakdown! C AA9428 Alien Invaders - Plus! C AC9429 The Quest for the Rings! U AB9430 U.F.O.! U AB9431 Conquest of the World! U AM9432 Monkeyshines! R AC9433 Keyboard Creations ER AC9434 The Great Wall Street Fortune Hunt R AC9435 K.C. Munchkin! C AC9436 Freedom Fighters! C AC9437 Pick Axe Pete! U AC9438 S.I.D. the Spellbinder (voice) ER AC9439 Nimble Numbers Ned! (voice) ER AC9440 Type & Tell! (voice) R AC9441 Smithereens (voice) ER AC9422 K.C.'s Krazy Chase! (voice) U AC9433 P.T. Barnum's Acrobats (voice) ER AC9445 Attack of the Timelord! (voice) R AC9446 Turtles (voice) ER AC9447 Killer Bees! (voice) ER AC9448 Power Lords UR ??7605 The Voice of Odyssey^2 R Voice and music synthesizer. GE7710 Odyssey^3 Command Center P GE7610 Odyssey^3 Voice Module P Odyssey^2 Pink Panther NR Odyssey^2 Sherlock Holmes P Odyssey^3 Modem P Odyssey^3 Flashpoint P Odyssey^3 Baseball P Odyssey^3 Killer Bees P As an American release, this only exists as a prototype. The prototype for the American version has not yet been found, but I have seen a videotape of this game in action. An altered version of this game was released in Europe (UR), the difference being that the background graphics are completely different. In the American prototype video we see a colorful geometric background, while in the European release we see a yellow honey comb, and several large 'Killer Bees'. Odyssey^3 Attack of the Timelord P As an American release, this only exists as a prototype. However, this game was released in Europe as "Terrahawks +" (ER). Oddly, two large stars blink in the American version, yet are static in the European version. Odyssey^3 Freedom Fighters P As an American release, this only exists as a prototype. However, this game was released in Europe as "Freedom Fighters +" (ER). One notable difference is that the background graphics for this American version are *not* used on the European version. Instead these background graphics (of a big red floating asteroid and a starfield) are used on the European Videopac "Satellite Attack +" which is the European Odyssey^3/Philips G7400 version of "U.F.O.!" The G7400 version of "Freedom Fighters" features a background with several planets (one with rings) and a starfield. ***************************************************************** * Magnavox Odyssey games for Colecovision * ***************************************************************** War Room R This was the only Odyssey game that ever made it to the Colecovision market. It was sold under the label 'Probe 2000'. Power Lords NR This game was advertised with screen shots, but it was never sold and no prototype has yet been found. The Odyssey^2 version is UR, and was commercially released. Flashpoint NR Creatures and Caverns NR These games were planned but never apprently made it to the prototype stage. No prototypes have ever been found. ***************************************************************** * Imagic Odyssey^2 * ***************************************************************** Model number / name Rarity ------------------------------------------------------------ Atlantis ER Demon Attack ER Demon Attack Plus UR Demon Attack Plus was a limited release for the Philips G7400, known only to have been sold in France and Portugal. One known copy has a label showing that it was released by To Tec International, and licsenced by Imagic. In addition to the regular release of these Imagic games, they were also sold in some European countries under the Philips label. ***************************************************************** * Parker Brothers Odyssey^2 * ***************************************************************** Model number / name Rarity ------------------------------------------------------------ Popeye UR Q*Bert UR Super Cobra UR Frogger ER Tutankham NR Note that Popeye, Q*Bert and Super Cobra all work on American Odyssey^2 units, but Frogger does not. In addition to the regular release of these games, they were also released in some European countries under the Philips label. Tutankham was advertised but never released, and no prototype has yet been found. ***************************************************************** * Philips Videopacs for the G7000, G7200, or G7400 * ***************************************************************** In the following list, if there is a '+' sign next to the Videopac number, then this means that there was a '+' version of this game released. Videopac number / name Rarity (followed by name of American version.) ------------------------------------------------------------ Philips G7000 ER Videogame console; equivalent to an Odyssey^2. Philips G7200 UR Videogame console with built-in B/W monitor. Philips G7400 UR Videopac '+' console, equivalent to the unreleased Odyssey^3 Command Center. 01+ Race/Spinout/Cryptogram C Speedway/Spinout/Cryptologic 02 Pairs/Space Rendezvous/Logic R Matchmaker/Out Of This World/Logix These games were released in the US, but not together on one cartridge! 03 American Football R Football 04 Air-Sea War/Battle R Armored Encounter/Subchase 05 Blackjack R Las Vegas Blackjack 06 Ten Pin Bowling/Basketball R Bowling/Basketball 07 Mathematician/Echo R Math-a-Magic/Buzzword 08 Baseball R 09 Computer Programmer R Computer Intro 10 Golf R 11+ Cosmic Conflict R 12 Take the Money and Run R 13 Playschool Math UR I've Got Your Number 14 Gunfighter R Showdown in 2100 A.D. 15 Samurai ER Dynasty 16 Depth Charge/Marksman R Never released in US 17 Chinese Logic R Never released in US 18 Laser War R Invaders From Hyperspace 19 Catch the Ball/Noughts and Crosses R Never released in US 20+ Stone Sling R Smithereens 21 Secret of the Pharoahs ER Never released in US 22 Space Monster R Alien Invaders - Plus! 23 Las Vegas Gambling R Casino Slot Machine 24 Flipper Game R Pinball 25 Skiing R Alpine Skiing 26 Basket Game R Pachinko 27 Electronic Table Football R Soccer 28 Electronic Volleyball R 29 Dam Buster R Blockout/Breakdown 30 Battlefield R War of Nerves 31 Musician (by Sierra) ER Never released in US 32 Labyrinth Game/Supermind R Never released in US 33 Jumping Acrobats R P.T. Barnum's Acrobats 34+ Satellite Attack ER U.F.O.! 35 Electronic Billiards R Pocket Billiards 36 Electronic Hockey/Electronic Soccer R 37 Monkeyshines R 38 Munchkin R K.C. Munchkin 39+ Freedom Fighters R 40 Microcat / 4 in 1 Row R Never released in US 41 Conquest of the World ER 42 The Quest for the Rings ER 43+ Pick Axe Pete R 44 Crazy Chase R K.C.'s Krazy Chase 45 Morse ER Never released in US 46 The Great Wall Street Fortune Hunt ER 47 The Mousing Cat /Adversaries ER Never released in US 48 Backgammon ER Never released in US 49 Turtles ER 50 Super Bee UR Never released in US 51+ Terrahawks ER Attack Of The Timelord 52+ Killer Bees ER 53+ Nightmare UR Never released in US 54+ Looney Balloon ER Never released in US 55+ Neutron Star ER Never released in US 56+ Norseman UR Never released in US - for G7400 only 57 Blobbers ER Never released in US 58+ Air Battle UR Never released in US 59+ Helicopter Rescue UR Never released in US - for G7400 only 60+ Trans-American Rally UR Never released in US - for G7400 only A Newscaster UR Type'n'Tell V Kinder Im Verkehr UR German released only. An Odyssey^2 educational game for kids. Only a few hundred are rumored to exist. c7010 Video Chess Module UR c7420 G7400 Home Computer Module UR A BASIC programming module. xx Clay Pigeon P xx Pink Panther NR ***************************************************************** * Jopac Videopacs for the Philips Jopac (G7400) * ***************************************************************** These games were only released in France; All of these are UR. Syracuse - A ricochot" game. You must catch sunrays (dots) with a mirror and "shoot" them at a certain angle to a city to destroy the houses. Chex Maxime - A platform game. It is a restaurant with three stores, and you are the waiter and you have to serve people in a certain time limit. Exojet Plus Billiards Plus (Pocket Billiards Plus) Catapult Plus (Smithereens Plus) Motor Crash Robert D. Kaiser kaiser@pofvax.pnb.sunysb.edu Dept. of Physiology & Biophysics SUNY at Stony Brook Stony Brook, NY 11794-8661 =1A