#! rnews 2004 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!sgigate.sgi.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.m= athworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!katbert.ipa.net!news From: Jim Self Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: C=3D64 Users get last laugh Date: 9 Jul 1996 19:06:40 GMT Organization: Internet Partners of America Lines: 38 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ruak0$nun@katbert.ipa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ipa-171-3.ipa.net If you are ever the least bit intimidated by derogatory remarks about owning/using old Commodore computers, think about this: In the late 1940's you could buy an old used up Model T Ford for $10 to $20. The Model A was slightly higher. A neighbor of mine suffered the barbs and witticisms(?) of=20 the local gentry because he enjoyed driving an old=20 "Oakland" machine. Who's lauging now? In the mid 1960's, there was a big old paper-punch=20 reading IBM computer at Fort Huachuca Arizona that was=20 rumored to have cost the Army millions of dollars (yours and mine). It was rumored that leased time on that system was figured in the thousands of dollars a minute. (Rumors,yes, but you know it was high.) As I understand=20 it, a Commodore 64, perhaps even a VIC 20 would outperform it. I don't really know that for sure but It'd be easy for=20 me to believe. An Abacus data recorder I worked with still=20 used flip-flops and NAND gates on big old printed circuit cards. Museums for our old computers are popping up everywhere. How many are there for the fast IBM compat. PC's? Oh, there may be or will be but you'll still have your old C=3D. Can't you get a C=3D64 now for under a hundred dollars? You'll have fun. You'll have the last laugh. Jim C=3D =3D :) P.S. (Analogy) Do you suppose in 30 years we will be able to buy an old worn out Columbia space ship for the=20 equivalent of $10 (1945), $100 (1996) and make private journeys into outer space. (Of course we'd fix it up) That may seem far-fetched but then so was the idea of=20 owning a desk computer such as the C=3D64 for $100. #! rnews 2596 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!katbert.ipa.net!news From: Jim Self Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: input# unhung ? Date: 9 Jul 1996 17:07:18 GMT Organization: Internet Partners of America Lines: 41 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ru3k6$dtb@katbert.ipa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ipa-171-24.ipa.net n C=3D 64 basic (V2) , using input# to ask the 1541 drive for data h= as always been a troublemaker for me. Well, no wonder. One of the early vers= ions of the "leetle teeny" manual says that it's going to give you strange res= ults if you try to use it. I've been able to use it only so long as I don't let it= get to the end of the data before closing the file. So, I would put in a dummy string a= t the end and keep track my own eof. This seemed awfully cumbersome. The typical = way around it is to use get# instead and concatenate a string until yo= u reach a chr$(13). But it is so much slower than input #. With long files, t= he loading time is unbearable. The trouble starts for me when I input# the last string. The strings= are all there but the drive hangs up on the last input# and won't close t= he file. So now the entire program is hung. So I finally got out a disk utility program (Doctor V5) and looked at th= ings. I compared programs that would load OK with those that hung. The only diffe= rence I could find was that there was a chr$(32) just one byte past what seeme= d to be the end of file. This almost slipped my attention since it was apparane= tly a byte beyond what I THOUGHT was the end of the file. Naturally, I then tried writing chr$(32) at the end of my sequential data= files just before closing the file as the last Print# to go in. Lo and behold! It= sort of surprised me that it worked. So far, I have been able to use input# relentlessly on sequential data f= iles with no more problems. There may not be many people who still program in V2 commie basic. But i= f you do, and didn't already know this, write it down somewhere in your 1541 ti= dbit file for later reference so you can experiment with it. I'd like to hear if i= t still gives any kind of trouble. I scratched it into the "little teeny" manual which is = where I go read when I hit problems. Of course, none of this has been much tested by me so there still may be = other problems I haven't found yet and so you'll have to keep that in mind if = you use this. I may be re-writing old known history here but I just discovered it and = wanted to share it. Jim #! rnews 1559 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!src.honeywell.com!The-Star.honeywell.com!spac= enns.space.honeywell.com!usenet From: Brian Heyboer Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: need info on 1541 drive Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 12:58:45 -0400 Organization: Honeywell Space Systems Lines: 26 Message-ID: <31E28FC5.59A9@space.honeywell.com> References: <31E01515.178D@microagewny.com> Reply-To: bjheyboer@space.honeywell.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bjheyboer.space.honeywell.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Karl K wrote: >=20 > Hi, I am looking for help with a 1541 drive. > It will come on but will not read. Any suggestions > or some one got one for sale or to donate? > Please let me know, Karl K You are going to have to give more details before we can be of much=20 help. Did it ever work? What was the last thing you did that did work? When you turn it on, do both LEDs come on, the drive spin for a short=20 while, and then the red LED turns off? Can you access the drive at all, or does the computer say "Device not=20 present"? When you try to read a disk, does the head seak but the red LED flashes=20 an error? Have you read the error channel, and if so what error is=20 reported? Can you format a disk? If not, what error is reported? It coulld be anything from a stuck or dirty head to a major hardware=20 problem, but you've given us nothing to go on. #! rnews 1116 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!winternet.com!m= alox From: malox@winternet.com (Kevin Schaeffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Apple //e trade for C128 Date: 9 Jul 1996 17:34:26 GMT Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4ru572$rkr@blackice.winternet.com> References: <4rtrn8$1t5@stratus.skypoint.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: subzero.winternet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Larry Mullaly (lmull@skypoint.com) wrote: : I am looking to trade an Apple //e system for a Commodore 128 system wi= th : someone in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Here is what I would like to : trade: =20 : Enhanced Apple //e with 128K=20 : Super serial card=20 : Two Disk ][ drives : Apple color monitor=20 : In exchange for: =20 : Commodore 128 computer=20 : Two 1571 Disk drives (I might also take 1541 drives instead)=20 : 1701 color monitor=20 : All associated power supplies and cables=20 : If interested leave me mail at lmull@skypoint.com : =20 ------------------------------------------------ Larry, Try "The Last Stand" its a C=3D bbs in mpls at (612) 533-5267 - very=20 friendly bbs! #! rnews 8743 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!n= ews.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!new= s.bc.net!torn!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!csbruce From: csbruce@ccnga.uwaterloo.ca (Craig Bruce) Subject: Re: How to transfer files from PC to C64? Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:29:01 GMT References: <4rcep2$net@druid.borland.com> <4rs2po$iqp@druid.borland.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: ccnga.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo, Canada (eh!) Lines: 224 In article <4rs2po$iqp@druid.borland.com>, Josh Lubliner wrote: >milocco@elettra.trieste.it (Andrea MILOCCO) wrote: >>ftp://ccnga.uwaterloo.ca//pub/cbm/telecomm/xmodem64.zip >>ftp://ccnga.uwaterloo.ca//pub/cbm/telecomm/xmodem64.readme > >Thank you! That is _exactly_ what I wanted to know. I tried to reply >to you through e-mail, but I kept getting bounced. > >There is one problem: That file is apparently corrupted, and I cannot >unzip it. I e-mailed the administrator. The file in question does indeed appear to be corrupted, since it looks v= ery small and doesn't extract for me either. But, I think that what's suppos= ed to be inside of it was posted to this newsgroup in Sept. 1995 by Gaelyne Moranec. I have included her article below (which contains the BASIC-program listing). Keep on Hackin'! -Craig Bruce csbruce@ccnga.uwaterloo.ca "Never underestimate the power of a simple tool." C=3D256,64K-VDC,REU,RL16,HD200,FD4000,SL,USR28.8,C=3D128,1581,1571,C=3D64= C,1541,VIC20 ----- Article 42103 of comp.sys.cbm: From: moranec@hal9000.apana.org.au (Gaelyne Moranec) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: terminal program for 300 Date: 11 Sep 1995 10:30:39 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 188 Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199509111539.BAA26033@hal9000.apana.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.cs.utexas.edu To: comp-sys-cbm@cs.utexas.edu CE> has anyone got a listing of a 300 baud CE> terminal program? i just lent a CE> modem off a friend, but i don't have any CE> software... if anyone has a CE> program that i can type in (yes, type in, CE> currently i don't have a way CE> of transferring files from/to the C64), i CE> would be happy, happy, happy, I have one on my web site: http://www.msen.com/~brain/guest/Gaelyne_Moranec/term.html I just browsed through it and it doesn't seem to have a baud rate - I would assume that so long as both computers are using the same baud rate, the program should work. --------------------- Text Import Start --------------------- Note, I don't know that an ASCII to Basic converter will convert all properly unless you first remove the bracketed magazine-style keypresses ( [blue] [shft-home] etc), then put-in the actual keypresses after the conversion is done (or at least since they are in print statements, just bear in mind that they are there in that format, and will need to be entered properly once the thing is in Basic). But of course for the original type-in purpose, this is just what the doctor ordered :-) 10 rem ***************** 15 rem * xmodem 64 3.6 * 20 rem * karl schmitt * 25 rem ***************** 30 poke53281,3:poke53280,6:printchr$(151)chr$(14):open5,2,3,chr$ (6)+chr$(.) 35 open15,8,15:u=3D212:d=3D256:w=3D1:e$=3Dchr$(147):c=3D250:s=3D64:p$=3Dc= hr$ (19):o=3D8 40 bl$=3D"[home][5-dn]":er$=3D"[home][8-dn][14 spcs][up]"+chr$(13) 45 ack=3D6:nak=3D21:eot=3D4:can=3D24:z=3D131:v=3D132:f=3D255:m=3D288:p=3D= 12 50 c$=3Dchr$(.):r$=3Dchr$(18):j$=3Dchr$(13):o$=3Dchr$(18)+chr$(32)+ chr$(157)+chr$(146) 55 printe$j$"[blue]XMODEM 64"j$ 60 print"DOWNLOAD & UPLOAD";:g$=3Dchr$(133):q$=3Dchr$(34):i$=3Dchr$(20) 65 print" TERMINAL PGM"j$j$"DISK VERSION 3.6"j$ 70 print"by Karl Schmitt"j$j$ 75 print"Hit For Main Menu." 80 printj$"Use XMODEM protocol for all transfers."j$j$:l$=3Dchr$ (32)+chr$(157) 85 print"1. Bulletin Board"j$j$"2. 64 to 64"j$j$j$j$ 90 print"Type 1 or 2 to begin.":gosub505:ifa$=3D"1"then105 95 ifa$=3D"2"thenb=3Dw:goto105 100 goto90 105 dimf%(f),t%(f),u%(p,v) 110 printe$"Please stand by for 9 seconds."j$j$"Creating Translat ion tables." 115 forj=3D32to64:t%(j)=3Dj:next:t%(13)=3D13:t%(20)=3D8:forj=3D65to90:t%(= j) =3Dj+32:next 120 forj=3D91to95:t%(j)=3Dj:next:forj=3D193to218:t%(j)=3Dj-128:next:t% (146)=3Dp 125 t%(133)=3Dp:t%(147)=3D19:t%(137)=3D3:t%(134)=3D17:t%(138)=3D19:forj=3D= .to f:k=3Dt%(j) 130 ifk<>.thenf%(k)=3Dj:f%(k+128)=3Dj 135 next 140 rem------------terminal------------ 145 printchr$(14) 150 printe$" Terminal Mode"j$:ifa$=3Dchr$(can)thenprint"Transfer CA NCELLED!" 155 iffa=3Dwthenprint"When host is ready to receive, hit f1"j$"for main menu and"; 160 iffa=3Dwthenfa=3D.:print" start the upload."j$ 165 get#5,a$:ifa$=3D""then180 170 printl$chr$(f%(asc(a$)));:ifa$=3Dq$thenpokeu,. 175 goto165 180 printo$;:geta$:ifa$=3D""then165 185 ifb=3Dwthen:x=3Dasc(a$):ifx=3D13orx=3D145orx=3D157orx=3D29orx=3D17orx= =3D19 thenprintl$; 190 ifb=3Dwthenprinta$;:ifa$=3Dq$thenpokeu,. 195 ifa$=3Dg$thenprintl$j$:goto320 200 print#5,chr$(t%(asc(a$)));:goto165 205 rem-----------download------------- 210 printe$"is host computer waiting to send? y/n":gosub505:ifa$=3D "n"then145 215 printj$:ifa$<>"y"then210 220 g=3D3:k$=3D"w":gosub345:print:bl=3D.:n=3D. 225 printj$"downloading "f$er$"[up]status" 230 forh=3Dwtop 235 ch=3D.:forx=3Dwtov:get#5,a$:e=3Dst:ifa$=3D""thenife=3Dothenl=3Dl+w 240 ife=3D.thenl=3D.:goto255 245 ifl=3Dmthenl=3D.:gosub525:printbl$"waiting":goto230 250 goto235 255 ifx=3Dwthenifa$=3Dchr$(eot)thengosub520:goto310 260 u%(h,x)=3Dasc(a$+c$):ch=3Dch+u%(h,x):next:ch=3Dch-u%(h,v) 265 if(u%(h,w)+u%(h,2)+u%(h,3)and f)<>.thengosub525:printer$"soh error":goto235 270 ifu%(h,v)<>(chandf)thengosub525:printer$"checksum error": goto235 275 bl=3Dbl+w:printbl$"block"bl 280 ifu%(h,2)<>blthenbl=3Dbl-1:gosub520:printer$"duplicate bl": goto235 285 ifh<>pthengosub520 290 next:h=3Dh-w 295 ifn=3Dwthenifh=3D.then310 300 fory=3D1toh:forx=3Deottoz:print#3,chr$(u%(y,x));:next:next 305 gosub520:goto230 310 fora=3Dwtoh:forr=3Deottoz:print#3,chr$(u%(a,r));:next:next:close3 :goto550 315 rem-----------menu----------------- 320 printchr$(142)e$ 325 printj$"1. download"j$"2. upload"j$"3. terminal"j$"4. directo ry" 330 print"5. start upload"j$"6. end":gosub505 335 onval(a$)goto210,375,145,475,585,515 340 goto325 345 printe$:input"filename e[rvs-on]x[rvs-off]it.";f$:iff$=3D"x" then320 350 printe$:input"filetype [rvs-on]p[rvs-off]rogram[space] [rvs-on]s[rvs-off]equential e[rvs-on]x[rvs-off]it";ft$:ifft$=3D "x"then320 355 ft$=3Dleft$(ft$,w) 360 openg,8,g,"0:"+f$+","+ft$+","+k$:input#15,a,b$:printe$;a;b$: ifa=3D.thenreturn 365 closeg:goto325 370 rem-----------upload--------------- 375 g=3D6:k$=3D"r":gosub345:bl=3D.:fa=3Dw 380 printer$"[up]reading ":fory=3Dwtop:u%(y,w)=3Dw 385 bl=3Dbl+w:u%(y,2)=3Dbl:u%(y,3)=3Df-bl:ch=3Dw+u%(y,2)+u%(y,3):printer$ "block"bl 390 forx=3Deottoz:get#6,b$:ifst=3D.then400 395 fl=3Dy:ch=3Dch+u%(y,x):fora=3Dx+wtoz:u%(y,a)=3D.:next:u%(y,v)=3Dchand= f: goto405 400 u%(y,x)=3Dasc(b$+c$):ch=3Dch+u%(y,x):next:u%(y,v)=3Dchandf:next: y=3Dy-w 405 iffa=3Dwthen145 410 get#5,a$:ifa$<>chr$(nak)then410 415 bl=3Dbl-y:y=3D. 420 printer$"[up]upload status"j$"nak"bl$"[up]uploading" 425 y=3Dy+w:bl=3Dbl+w 430 printbl$"block"bl:forx=3Dwtov:print#5,chr$(u%(y,x));:next 435 fora=3D.to1200:get#5,a$:ifa$=3D""thennext:goto430 440 ifa$=3Dchr$(ack)thenify=3Dpthenprinter$"ack":goto380 445 ifa$=3Dchr$(ack)theniffl<>ythenprinter$"ack":goto425 450 ifa$=3Dchr$(ack)theniffl=3Dythenfl=3D.:gosub535:gosub540:close6: goto550 455 ifa$=3Dchr$(nak)thenprinter$"nak":goto430 460 ifa$=3Dchr$(can)thenclose6:goto550 465 goto435 470 rem---------directory-------------- 475 printe$:open1,8,0,"$0":get#1,a$,a$ 480 get#1,a$,a$:ifa$=3D""then500 485 get#1,a$,b$:printasc(a$+c$)+asc(b$+c$)*d; 490 get#1,a$:ifa$=3D""thenprint:goto480 495 printa$;:goto490 500 close1:goto325 505 geta$:ifa$=3D""then505 510 return 515 end 520 print#5,chr$(ack);:printer$"ack":q=3D.:return 525 q=3Dq+w:ifq=3D11thenclose3:a$=3Dchr$(can):print#5,a$:goto550 530 print#5,chr$(nak);:printer$"nak":return 535 print#5,chr$(eot);:printer$"eot":return 540 get#5,a$:ifa$=3D""then540 545 return 550 print"[clr/home]hit any key for terminal mode" 555 so=3D54272 560 pokeso+1,250:pokeso+5,10:pokeso+15,200 565 pokeso+24,15:forcl=3D1to12:pokeso+4,21:fortm=3D1to1250:next: pokeso+4,20 570 getb$:ifb$=3D""then560 575 so=3D54272:forcl=3D.to24:pokeso+cl,.:next 580 goto145 585 printe$"is host computer ready to recieve? y/n"j$:gosub505: ifa$=3D"n"then145 590 ifa$<>"y"then585 595 printe$"have the first 12 (or less) blocks to[3 spaces]upload been read yet ?" 600 gosub505:ifa$=3D"n"then145 605 ifa$<>"y"then595 610 printe$"uploading[2 spaces]"f$:goto405 --------------------- Text Import End --------------------- #! rnews 884 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!hunter.premier.net!netnews.worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Larry Haynes Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Post FAQ, please. Date: 9 Jul 1996 17:54:05 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4ru6bt$lks@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> References: <4rri4s$s7@druid.borland.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 94.denver-2.co.dial-access.att.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22ATT (Windows; U; 16bit) squonk@mousehouse.com (Josh Lubliner) wrote: >Could someone please post the CSC FAQ? > It's posted monthly and you are only a couple of days late. Try backing the date up on your newsviewer. Or you can retrieve it=20 from the source. http://www.msen.com/~brain/cbmhome.html #! rnews 6153 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!not-for-mail From: brain@mail.msen.com (Jim Brain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Commodore Hacking Issue #13 Preview Date: 9 Jul 1996 21:55:02 GMT Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI. Lines: 133 Message-ID: <4rukfn$85f@pravda.aa.msen.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: conch.aa.msen.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Wow, guys, it's looking big, but we'll see how it shapes up size wise. I suspect it'll be coming out early next week. Jim P.S. Sorry for the delay, but I think it'll be worth it. @(#)top: =20 ######## ################## ###### ###### ##### ##### #### #### ## ##### #### #### #### #### #### = ##### ##### ## ## #### ## ## ## ### ## #### ## #= # ## ##### ######## ## ## ## ##### ## ## ## ## ## ##### ## ## ######## ## ## ## ### ## ## #### ## = ## ##### #### #### #### #### ##### #### #### #### #### #### ###= ### ##### = ## ###### ###### Issue #13 ################## Version 1.0 ######## July 1996 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- @(#)contents: Table of Contents =20 Features XX. OS/A65: A Multitasking Operating System by Andre Fachat (Reference: os) Just when you thought it was safe to run a single program on your Commodore 64, Andre ups the ante and details a framework that allows you to coax your machine to do multiple things at once. If one app was trouble enough, try taming two or more at a time!=20 XX. Exploiting the 65C816S CPU by Jim Brain (Reference: cpu)=09 So, the eagerly anticipated accelerator from CMD is becoming available. Sure it's fast, and it'll boost speeds in existing applications. However, you know users won't be content for long. Learn how to take advantage of the extra addressing modes and wid= er CPU registers when you flip the '816 into Native mode. In additi= on, Jim will detail the preliminary set of "magic" memory locations=20 in the CMD SuperCPU. =20 XX. Using UQWK with QWKR128 by Gaelyne Moranec (Reference: uqwk) After years of using QWKR128 to read BBS email and FIDO echoes,=20 you've graduated to the Internet. Does that mean you'll have to shelve QWKR128? No way! Gaelyne details how to use a UNIX progr= am called UQWK to package up USENET newsgroups and Internet electronic mail for offline perusal by QWKR128. XX. Brad Templeton: The Programmer's Friend - An Interview by Jim Lawle= ss (Reference: pal) Templeton, the originator of the PAL assembler and a driving forc= e in programmer aids in the late 70's and early 80's, reflects on those early years, where programmer tools were pretty spartan.=20 Travel in time with Brad to an era where IBM specialized in mainframes, and proprietary schemes were commonplace. XX. Creating 3-D Dungeon Crawls by Todd Elliott (Reference: dungeon) So you have created the world's nastiest dungeon engine for your torture chamber of a game. Don't forget the presentation. Todd shows how to create a 3-dimensional scene that will bring your dungeon to life. This will give your unsuspecting victim the most realistic gameplay possible. XX. Using HTML on the Commodore, Part 1 by Jim Brain (Reference: html) Your IBM friends are drooling over the World Wide Web and its markup language: HyperText Markup Language (HTML). Are you worr= ied your CBM machine might not be able to handle HTML? Worry no more. Jim will teach you the HTML language and how it can be used on th= e Commodore system. In part 1, Jim details the language and its elements and lays the ground work for a Commodore HTML parsing en= gine. Columns XX. Hi Tech Trickery by Alan Jones (Reference: trick) =20 Here's the proof you need to kill off the persistent myth that 8-bitters can't cut the mustard in complex computations. Alan lays some groundwork and details a few tricks in stretching=20 those 8-bits to the limit and beyond. XX. Hacking Graphics by Stephen Judd (Reference: gfx) Driven disk magazine just finished their 4 kilobyte demo contest. Stephen takes you behind the scenes of dim4, his entry into the contest. Learn what is inside this 4kB file that expands to leav= e only 8kB memory free. Stepohen shows just how a demo is put together. XX. Twiddling the Bits by Ward Shrake (Reference: bits) Even though its younger brother was more popular, this older child of Commodore Business Machines was a fine computer system=20 indeed. Ward Shrake takes us inside the Commodore VIC-20 with technical information and pinout diagrams. Don't underestimate=20 this workhorse of a machine. =20 Departments XX. The (cough,cough) Hacking Editor (Reference: editor) XX. Input/Output (Reference: io) XX. Newsfront (Reference: news) XX. Hacking the Mags (Reference: mags) XX. UseNuggets (Reference: usenet) XX. FIDO's Nuggets (Reference: fido) XX. Hack Surfing (Reference: surf) XX. Commodore Trivia (Reference: trivia) XX. ? DS, DS$: rem The Error Channel (Reference: error) XX. The Next Hack (Reference: next) XX. Hacking the Code (Reference: code) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --=20 Jim Brain, Embedded System Designer, Brain Innovations, Inc. (BII) (onlin= e sig) j.brain@ieee.org "Above views DO reflect my employer, since I'm my empl= oyer" Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, VR, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!= -Me- Jim Brain: BII, VR, and CBM info =20 #! rnews 1121 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!netnews.worldnet.att= .net!newsadm From: Larry Haynes Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: c64 to pc serial Date: 9 Jul 1996 18:29:04 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <4ru8dg$lks@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> References: <4rt2v2$1b58@serra.unipi.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: 94.denver-2.co.dial-access.att.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22ATT (Windows; U; 16bit) pacino@cli.di.unipi.it (Lelio Pacino) wrote: >It may be a common question.......but i have a printer (star NL-10) >with detachable interface for c64, now i want to use it with my pc >(ser= ial port >I think),so i need know how to make compatible signals (c64 is not stand= ard > serial), have you any possible electronic schema? Thank you. If it is the "detachable interface" that I'm thinking of, once it is removed you should be able to use a standard parallel port to=20 printer cable. #! rnews 1095 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!n= ews.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news= junkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!hermes.louisville.edu!pubs07a.adm-houche= ns.louisville.edu!user From: dgdela01@homer.louisville.edu (Dan Delaney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Zip Drives Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 15:42:08 -0400 Organization: University of Louisville, Louisville KY USA Lines: 7 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <31df2ef4.7d0e@netcom.ca> <4rpkas$1o0m@use= neta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pubs07a.adm-houchens.louisville.edu In article <4rpkas$1o0m@useneta1.news.prodigy.com>, RVTP18B@prodigy.com (David Tuomi) wrote: > I've used a ZIP on my 128, but only by hooking it up to my 128 through = a=20 > CMD SCSI hard drive. The ZIP drives are a tad inconvenient in that the= y=20 Might I ask WHERE CAN I GET one of these CMD-HD SCSI adapters for the C64= /C128? #! rnews 701 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!koutsos From: koutsos@students.uiuc.edu (koutsos angelo john) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS: cartridges for the C64 Date: 9 Jul 1996 20:28:35 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4rufdj$2nb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ux4.cso.uiuc.edu I have Jumpman Jr. In the original box for the C64 it is unopened !! I also have Star Trek with docs, Grid Runner, Radar Rat Race (above are loose cartridges) please make me an offer!! koutsos@students.uiuc.edu #! rnews 941 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.= sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!ns1.win.net!bugs From: simeon@sndcreate.win.net (Simeon Amburgey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Lots of Stuff For Sale... Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:08:26 -0400 Organization: Sound Creations Lines: 20 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-02.win.net X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v1.00 (30 Day Trial) I have some Commodore stuff I need to sell. 1 C-64 1 C-64c 2 1541 Floppy Drives 1 1750 Ram Expansion Unit Expanded to 1 meg with Battery Backup 1 Super Snapshot with reset switch 1 MIDI interface with lots of sequencing software 1 KXP2180 24pin printer 1 G-Wiz Printer interface 1 Mouse Lots more No reasonable offer refused Thanks, Simeon Amburgey simeon@sndcreate.win.net Louisville, KY Amiga user #! rnews 2054 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!news.= mathworks.com!uunet!inXS.uu.net!nntp.crl.com!crl13.crl.com!not-for-mail From: ceejack@crl.com (Jack Vander White) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C=3D64 Users get last laugh Date: 9 Jul 1996 14:50:06 -0700 Organization: Humanity Against Late-Night Infomercials Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ruk6e$llr@crl13.crl.com> References: <4ruak0$nun@katbert.ipa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl13.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Jim Self (himselfo@ipa.net(JimSelf)) wrote: : If you are ever the least bit intimidated by derogatory : remarks about owning/using old Commodore computers, : think about this: : In the late 1940's you could buy an old used up Model T : Ford for $10 to $20. The Model A was slightly higher. A I paid $35 for my '29 A coupe in '51. A whole two weeks wages=20 back then. : Museums for our old computers are popping up everywhere. Here in Silicon country seems like everyone is planning or opening a museum. I see requests in local echos almost daily for old computers, but not PCs. : Can't you get a C=3D64 now for under a hundred dollars? : You'll have fun. : You'll have the last laugh. We have a couple of hundred BBS's locally. Most run by programmers or hardware people from the local plants of Intel, Hewlett-Packard,=20 Apple/Mac, Packard Bell, etc.. About half have a 64 or 128 setup=20 running in addition to their latest Pentium.=20 =20 Before the Army's Signal Depot shut down I found out that about=20 half the repair tech's there were still running 64's or 128's at home for their own pleasure. Some even using them to run diagnostics for the army stuff they were repairing.=20 =20 Jack VW =20 =20 : P.S. (Analogy) Do you suppose in 30 years we will be able : to buy an old worn out Columbia space ship for the=20 : equivalent of $10 (1945), $100 (1996) and make private : journeys into outer space. (Of course we'd fix it up) : That may seem far-fetched but then so was the idea of=20 : owning a desk computer such as the C=3D64 for $100. #! rnews 602 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-feed.iguide.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: joy daidola Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Homecomputer museum Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 20:09:31 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 2 Message-ID: References: <31DFC7B2.709D@algonet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1d.delphi.com X-To: Hakan Karlsson Hi! If you are interested in atari stuffI have a bunch I have no use for.= e-mail me.. #! rnews 817 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!h= unter.premier.net!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!swrinde!howland.reston.an= s.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-feed.iguide.com!news.delphi.com!usene= t From: joy daidola Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: WT.Trade...stuff Date: Tue, 9 Jul 96 20:14:17 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1d.delphi.com Hi! I am in despirate need of a 386 or 486 computer..I have loads of great Commie stuff i could trade, as well as asmall amount of cash..If any inte= rest, E-mail me and I'll tell you what I have. A laptop would be great,,I need windows. a mouse and modem..any other software would be great..Thanks..Please help!!! #! rnews 1685 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.ed= u!uwm.edu!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!= news.global-one.no!news1.transpac.net!oden.abc.se!dos.canit.se!uno.canit.= se!p1.f411.n201!f411.n201!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm X-Comment-To: ChrisC From: Pontus Berg Date: Tue, 09 Jul 96 19:45:26 +0200 Subject: ANNOUNCE: C64 Prog Ref Gu Message-ID: <836966726@p71.f411.n201.z2.ftn> References: <1244570100@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> Organization: BoArDgasm, Farsta, Sweden X-FTN-AREA: CANIT_COMP_SYS_CBM X-FTN-MSGID: 2:201/411.71 31e31946 X-FTN-REPLY: sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com 4a2ea1f4 X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: Spot 1.3a #676 X-FTN-Origin: BoArDgasm, Farsta, Sweden (2:201/411.71) X-FTN-SEEN-BY: 201/411=20 X-FTN-PATH: 201/411=20 X-FTN-PATH: 201/411 Lines: 18 In a message of 04 Jul 96 ChrisC wrote to All: C> 1) I don't believe it was the original source code, but a dissasembly C> and commented code. It is not illegal to reference code in a book a= s C> long as noone uses it to program thier own drive. It isn't even a disassembly but a a three column description; Name, addre= ss and description of the routines! I find that hard to see as something illegal= , even looking at it and being picky! )=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D( ) o/ Bacchus@FairLight.COM Fido: 2:201/411.71 ( ) (# HTTP://WWW.Canit.Se/ANet/p71.html ( )=3D/7=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D( ... In those days dollars were scarce and time wasplentiful (ah, college = daze) ... now dollars are scarce andso is time. Bruce R. McFarling #! rnews 2509 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!h= unter.premier.net!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm= .edu!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!oleane!plug.news.pipex.net!pipex!weld= .news.pipex.net!pipex!hole.news.pipex.net!pipex!tube.news.pipex.net!pipex= !dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!soap.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet From: gsz@dial.pipex.com (George Szaszvari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: 1526 printer ribbons? Date: 10 Jul 1996 00:38:42 GMT Organization: Romulan Ale Symposium Lines: 35 Message-ID: <4ruu2i$4kn@soap.news.pipex.net> References: <4rn9i3$s7l@soap.news.pipex.net> <31E28D5E.3599@space.honeywe= ll.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ac187.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 In article <31E28D5E.3599@space.honeywell.com>,=20 bjheyboer@space.honeywell.com says... >The 1526 is no a Centronics printer. Are you sure that's what you have?= =20 >There was an IEEE-488 version (connector looks like Centronics but short= er=20 >-- 22 pins rather than 36), I think its the 4023. >Assuming it is a 1526 or 4023 (if I have the number right), the ribbon i= s=20 >the same as a Mannesman Tally Spirit 80. Most stationary stores have a=20 >ribbon list they can order from, and the Spirit 80 is listed by most=20 >manufacturers, but not always the CBM's. >BEWARE that some are selling inked ribbons for use in these printers in=20 >addition to the carbon-film ones. They are not designed for that --=20 >stick with the carbon-film ones even though they are more expensive to=20 >use. Ribbon type is usually a code in the ribbon listing -- be sure to=20 >check. The 1526 has square pins and very little space between pins and=20 >head. Carbon-film ribbons don't leave a residue in the pins, but inked=20 >ribbons DO. This will cause the pins to stick and the resultant increase= =20 >in power required to "fire" the pins can damage the head. Thanks for all this fascinating and useful info!=20 Regarding whether the 1526 is centronics or not, I can't say (having just acquired it) except to quote the six page "manual" that comes with it and= =20 describes the interface (with edge connector) as *parallel centronics* an= d=20 has a tape that allows the printer to be treated as if it were a device o= n=20 the serial bus. I'll be checking it out in the next few weeks and will le= t=20 the group know in due course.... Thanks for the responses so far... Regards, =20 -- George Szaszvari, DCPS Chess Club, 42 Alleyn Park, London SE21 7AA, UK *** Acorn Archimedes..ARM Club * Commodore64..ICPUG * NW London CC *** =END=