#! rnews 2625 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!news.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!newsf= eeder.sdsu.edu!sgigate.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.co= m!news.ac.net!news.cais.net!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!new= s.ucalgary.ca!srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca!pdporth From: Phil Porth Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Maybe A Virus? Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:29:50 -0600 Organization: Calgary Free-Net Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <4r3gvb$k5q@twizzler.callamer.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pdporth@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII To: Judy Sullivan In-Reply-To: <4r3gvb$k5q@twizzler.callamer.com> On 29 Jun 1996, Judy Sullivan wrote: NOT A VIRUS... we can't corrupt a DOS that is built into a ROM chip on th= e drive. > > I have a problem. Several weeks ago my son and I purchased a Commodore = 64 > at a yard sale. It came with a few programs. We used those programs and > began a search for others. I purchased programs from three people in th= is > newsgroup and a couple from someone locally. In fact, two packages of > programs arrived in the mail yesterday. We tried all of them out. A few > wouldn't even load or display a menu. Within a couple of hours of > receiving the disks, no disk would load. The machine still plays > cartridges, however. > > Any thoughts? Try LOAD"$",8 and see if it will load a directory. If the disk drive ligh= t starts flashing (an error message) then it is likely a drive problem. Some disks are copy protected and you can't load a directory from them. I= f the directory appears to be accessed and the drive stops normally, with n= o flashing lights then type list (and hit return) if the drive lists a directory then the problem may be with the way you tried to run the programs. Try load"0:*",8 and if it loads then type RUN (return) to see what you have. If that doesn't work try load"0:*",8,1 (return) and it should load and run by itself. If it appears to load OK then try typing RUN (return). Some programs are written in Machine language, and won't ru= n without the ml portion being loaded as well. The disk drive could also be overheated, or out of alignment. The best wa= y to check this out however is to ensure that you have a good drive on hand. Do you know anyone in your immediate area that can help? Maybe a local Users group? Hope this helps. Phil Porth (aka Phone Man) From the land of the frozen North, Calgary Alberta Canada Home of the Calgary Stampede and Calgary Commodore Users Group #! rnews 2108 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!newsfeeder.sdsu.e= du!newspump.sol.net!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Radioactive Warrior Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Comm128D to PC Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 22:14:03 +0000 Organization: noorgan Lines: 36 Message-ID: <31DAF0AB.5B4F@orl.mindspring.com> References: <4rep9i$ovf@camlaw.rutgers.edu> Reply-To: noname NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-176-117.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Mr. Self Destruct wrote: >=20 > Or even easier.... >=20 > If you have one phone line: > 1. Take it off the hook, wait for it start beeping. > Eventually it will stop and the line will go "dead" >=20 > 2. On one term program hit atdt123 or something > and on the other do ATA >=20 > Its worked for me so... >=20 > You have to wait for the line to go dead cause if not > one of those stupid operator messages comes on and throws you off. What are you on about??? You don't need the phone company for the two modems to connect... I do this all the time... If you are using a C=3D 1670 modem, issue an ATD command. At the same time the other modem (on your PC term) should be issued an ATA command... Both modems connect= ed together using the standard two-conductor phone cord but NOT connected to dialtone (ie. the house fone...) They should connect right up... If you have a smarter modem (SUPRA 2400+bps or APROTEK2400, like I have) you will need to set the modem to ignore the dialtone before you issue the ATD command or it will error out with, NO DIALTONE... For the APROTEK MINIMODEM-C24, use ATX3... This goes for your PC modem too but only if it is originating (ATD)- when answering, most/all modems don't detect the dialtone or lack of. I have only gotten the ATX3 comman= d to work on the minimodem-C24, all others I have had to play with the=20 S registers- refer to your modem user book for details... And you guys have been using X1541 all this time ok, hope this helps- Radioactive Warrior #! rnews 1193 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!winternet.com!n= 1ott.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!news.nstn.ca!news.inforamp.net!news From: karlh@inforamp.net (Karl Hildon) Newsgroups: alt.c64,comp.sys.cbm Subject: COMPLETE COMMODORE INNER SPACE ANTHOLOGY Date: 4 Jul 1996 02:23:02 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Inc. Lines: 15 Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[4283] Message-ID: <4rf9u6$1o1@news.inforamp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts7-14.tor.istar.ca X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.1@ts7-14.tor.istar.ca Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com alt.c64:117 comp.sys.cbm:57377 Hello All, Well, so far I've received 9 e-mail responses regarding copies of my book. Only problem is I only have 2 and the only fair thing to do is offer them to the first 2 respondents. I would, however, be willing to investigate the cost of a small run of reprints, but I'm reasonably sure that a run of 7 would put the cost per piece above $10 each, not to mention the cost of shipping which I've already checked out at the post office... around $8. Please e-mail me at "karlh@inforamp.net" and I'll be back in about a week with survey results. Regards, Karl #! rnews 1594 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!psgrain!rainrgnews0!hevanet.com!he= vanet.com!usenet From: _@_.mil Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: C64 Prog Ref Gu Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 19:12:24 -0700 Organization: ~ Lines: 28 Message-ID: <31DB2888.71F9@_.mil> References: <4rc6k6$7c1@nyx10.cs.du.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: st-ppp21.hevanet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win16; I) Brett Tabke wrote: >=20 > vm> The Project 64 etext of the Commodore 64 Programmer's > vm> Reference Guide, first edition. Converted to etext by > vm> Ville Muikkula. ... >=20 > vm> I hope that this massive > vm> project shows to the C=3D community that it is in a fact > vm> possible for one man to convert a 500 page book to > vm> ASCII text. One just have to be dedicated, believe that > vm> it can be done and have the PATIENCE for it... > vm> of free time. So, who's going to etext Inside Commodore > vm> DOS? >=20 > Who has Gerald Nuefeld's email address? I'd like to forward a copy > of the above message to him and visacorp. >=20 > Last time I looked there was a copyright notice on the inside > of the above mentioned books. Well I doubt Mr. Neufeld (& his lame side-kick, Mr. Immers) bothered to=20 pay attention to the copyright notice on the original Commodore 1541=20 source code document that they copied (modified a bit), and used to fill=20 the majority of their book! "etext" away boys... 'them that live by the sword... Sarg. #! rnews 1640 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!sgigate.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!= newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!news.bc.net!nnt= p.portal.ca!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!sr= v1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca!pdporth From: Phil Porth Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Where is DAVID JANSEN Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 01:13:41 -0600 Organization: Calgary Free-Net Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <4r3ejd$bjb@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pdporth@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII To: Joesph Fenn In-Reply-To: On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Joesph Fenn wrote: > David writes stuff for loadstar so send email to Jeff at loadstar email > address which is Jeff@Loadstar.com. They will give you info on how > to reach David direct. He wrote "Daves Term" which is possibly the > most complete term program ever written for the C128. Its even got > builtin zip and unzip extensions, and is on a parallel with Dialogue > and Desterm in other aspects. His program had to be put on (3) 1581 > disks it sook up so much room. Think It started with 128 Disk issue > # 27. Too bad it doesn't support the Ramlink, Swiftlink or higher baud rates. Phil Porth (aka Phone Man) From the land of the frozen North, Calgary Alberta Canada Home of the Calgary Stampede and Calgary Commodore Users Group #! rnews 1607 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!newsfeeder.sdsu.e= du!newspump.sol.net!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: Radioactive Warrior Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Zip Drives Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 22:33:50 +0000 Organization: noorgan Lines: 23 Message-ID: <31DAF54E.7655@orl.mindspring.com> References: Reply-To: noname NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-176-117.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; U; PPC) arca93@delphi.com wrote: > I use one everyday on my 128. The Zip drive requires a SCSI interface a= nd > so I use the CMD-HD as the interface. With the Zip added to the system,= it > basically makes my CMD-HD 100 megs larger. >=20 > -Maurice Do tell... How do you format the disk- any special commands need to be issued? What ROM do you have in your CMD hard drive? Is there any problems if you switch disks, or will an "I0" command work? Can you make the drive write protected on the CMD? (the ZIP disk uses software write-protect only...) =20 A friend of mine couldn't get his to talk to the ZIP drive using a CMD hard drive interface but he has had many problems with the thing anyway - stuff like only being able to use SCSI hard drives that will format using 256 bytes per sector (contrast the 512 bytes/sector standard...) So it could be his interface (or him...) but I would be very interested in the details... Thanks, Radioactive Warrior #! rnews 745 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!n= ews.mathworks.com!hunter.premier.net!news.uoregon.edu!mars.efn.org!garcia= .efn.org!dennis From: Dennis Brew Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: CP/M Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:02:18 -0700 Organization: Oregon Public Networking Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: garcia.efn.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII I have downloaded some CP/M programs from the ftp sites and cant get them= =20 to run. I have loaded the CP/M disk for the c128 type in the name at the prompt=20 A> but it don't seem to find the program, can anyone explain what I am=20 doing wrong. dennis@efn.org #! rnews 880 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!omnifest.uwm.edu!omnifest.uwm.edu!not-for-mai= l From: amcinnis@omnifest.uwm.edu (Andrew R. McInnis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: archive software?? needed Date: 3 Jul 1996 22:23:40 -0500 Organization: Omnifest Lines: 11 Distribution: na Message-ID: <4rfdfs$l3r@omnifest.uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.70.58 hi again does anyone know of a site where i can download a copy of zip to unzip so= me files and do i need a 1571 to use zip??? thanks andy p.s. thanks to all who responded to what is a .sfx and my other messages = which have really helped me learn a commodore.. four months and i havent accidentally erased a disk yet!!!!!! i am making a web site that will have a link to all the ftp sites i know = very soon. i will put the address on here when i am finished thanks #! rnews 1288 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!esiee.fr!jussieu.= fr!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!= mel.dit.csiro.au!actcsiro!news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!metro!metro!seagoon.newcastle= .edu.au!usenet From: "Bruce R. McFarling" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Multithreading OS for the C64, Erratum Date: 4 Jul 1996 03:42:39 GMT Organization: Department of Economics, University of Newcastle Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4rfejf$esv@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> References: <4q3u1i$rd7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <4rcqt2$p2u@seagoon.newcast= le.edu.au> <4re6d3$8oe@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: econ70.newcastle.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) fachat@physik.tu-chemnitz.de (Andre Fachat) wrote: >Bruce R. McFarling (ecbm@cc.newcastle.edu.au) wrote: >> ... (That includes the original 6502, with 64K RAM, >> 16K ROM, and 0K < IO < 4K >You mean C64, don't you? Can you tell I'm almost done marking final exams? Yeah, that should have read "C64" instead of 6502. Virtually, Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW ecbm@cc.newcastle.edu.au #! rnews 589 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!udel-eecis!faatcrl.faa.gov!faatcrl.faa.gov!usenet From: Paul_Seyler_at_AOS500@admin.tc.faa.gov (Paul Seyler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Instructions for Commodore Music Composer Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:17:03 GMT Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ Lines: 4 Message-ID: <4rfgm8INNcoh@faatcrl.faa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: 155.178.253.80 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Can anyone tell me how to enter music and save to disk? I bought the cartridge used and it did'nt have instructions. #! rnews 1768 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!munn= ari.OZ.AU!mel.dit.csiro.au!actcsiro!news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!metro!metro!hpal01.= isd4.tafensw.edu.au!mwalters From: mwalters@hoasy5.isd4.tafensw.edu.au Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Apple LaserWriter IINT and GEOS Message-ID: <1996Jul4.112400.10765@hpal01.isd4.tafensw.edu.au> Date: 4 Jul 96 11:24:00 +1000 Organization: TAFE NSW Network Lines: 26 I'm attempting to hook up an Apple LaserWriter IINT to a C64 via an RS232 interface to use with GEOS V2. So far it's been quite unsuccessful. Has anybody had success with a LW IINT plus GEOS? The RS232 interface provides the standard 9V+- and uses two RS232 line Dr= iver and Receiver chips. Works fine with a modem. The IINT receives at 9600 baud Xmodem protocol, has full Postscript implementation and is compatible with the earlier Apple LaserWriter Plus. The GEOS LW drivers are the ones supplied with V2- GeoLaser, and GeoPubLa= ser. I've also tried Jim Collette's preprocessors. Using an RS232 tester, it appears that the data is being sent to the prin= ter, but the printer's "Processing" LED doesn't indicate anything is being don= e, and=20 nothing prints. I've tried different 64s in case a CIA is the trouble, tried inverting th= e output of the interface, to no avail. Is a LW IINT specific driver needed for GEOS due to some unforseen compatability problem? Or should I give up and just hunt around for an or= iginal Apple LaserWriter? The IINT has no centronics interface so I cannot use a parallel cable, just AppleTalk (hah!) or 9600baud RS232. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- =20 "The only certainty is death, yet we live as though we were immortal"-Unk= nown. marc.walters@tafensw.edu.au #! rnews 1406 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news.mind= spring.com!usenet From: Radioactive Warrior Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: More I/O questions... This time, $DD00. Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 01:26:23 +0000 Organization: noorgan Lines: 23 Message-ID: <31DB1DBF.B25@orl.mindspring.com> Reply-To: noname NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-176-117.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; U; PPC) I am slowly learning the CIA chip and all it's tricks but I am stuck at the following routine that is used in many fast loader programs to transfer data from the disk drive rappidly. This routine was sandwiched in between a timing routine an a store byte/loop if not done routine- LDA #$00 LDX #$04 STA $DD00 [loop] LSR LSR EOR $DD00 DEX BNE [loop] I guess it's the "EOR" instruction that I don't understand... Anyway I do see it sending two bits at once and looping four times to gather a byte in .AR but wouldn't the EOR invert the bits? Well, if you know what I am talking about please clue me in as to any other techniques used to transfer data rapidly between a 1541 (stock...) Thanks, Radioactive Warrior #! rnews 1779 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!winternet.com!n= 1ott.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!van.istar!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ua= lberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca!pdporth From: Phil Porth Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: C64 archivers Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:38:39 -0600 Organization: Calgary Free-Net Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <4r671a$ah@ousrvr3.oulu.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: pdporth@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII To: Jari Karppinen In-Reply-To: <4r671a$ah@ousrvr3.oulu.fi> On 30 Jun 1996, Jari Karppinen wrote: > them were packed with c64 archives unknown to me... > > can anyone tell me how to unpack files with extension .SFX ? > It is supposed to be somekind of self extracting archive, right --- but > how do I get it to extract itself? Load and Run,with ,8 if it won't run it wasn't downloaded correctly. Some Lynx programs won't recognize .sfx filetypes as being Binary files. > > Also there were some LHA archives, which contained files with names > like: 1!turbo, 2!turbo etc. If they are 1!turbo.lha then somone has played around with them as 1!, 2! etc. are 64 zipped files and shouldn't be lh'arced download the zip.sda prg from any 64/128 FTP site, or most bulletin boards. There should be "4= " files which when unzipped will create a whole 1541 disk side.anyway....? Maybe somebody just renamed the files with the .lha extension without really converting them. Hope this helps Phil Porth (aka Phone Man) From the land of the frozen North, Calgary Alberta Canada Home of the Calgary Stampede and Calgary Commodore Users Group #! rnews 2512 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!v= an-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!srv1.freenet.ca= lgary.ab.ca!pdporth From: Phil Porth Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: How to connect to internet with a C64? Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:12:23 -0600 Organization: Calgary Free-Net Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <31D66083.37BE@ra.nettuno.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: pdporth@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII To: daniele righini In-Reply-To: <31D66083.37BE@ra.nettuno.it> On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, daniele righini wrote: > Anyone can say me how is possible to connect a C64 or C128 to inter- > net for various services like FTP, E-MAIL, NEWSGROUPS and browsing > WWW or GOPHER sites. > What I need: programs, hardware etc. > Where is possible to find programs ? (in case, also sites where all > these programs are downloadly). For the 64 or 128 the first thing you need is an internet provider willin= g to give you a Dos Shell access account, NOT Graphics (PPP or SLIP) With the Dos Shell account you can use programs provided by the company, they are called Lynx and Pine. These, when properly configured will allow you to access Newsgroups, E-Mail WWW and FTP access. The Newsgroups are the best place to correspond with "experts" in the Commodore community. On the 64/128 you can usually get by with a C=3D1670 1200 baud modem, but with a Swiftlink rs232 adaptor you can run any modem up to 38 k baud. For the 64 a good term program is Novaterm 9.5 downloadable from many FTP sites. Try the url ftp://ftp.ccnga.uwaterloo.ca/pub/cbm For the 128 a good term program (in 80 columns) is Desterm V2.0 also at the same FTP site. Both of these programs have VT102 emulation which you will need to access the Dos Shell account. > We need to contact other hardware experts for ideas and information > exchange. Hope this helps your group. Don't be surpised if most of the people on here are in the older age bracket. [;) Most kids still think that faster is better while us "older users" are still trying to see what we can wrin= g out of our old machines. I still haven't found anything that I "NEED" to do that I can't do with my 128. Phil Porth (aka Phone Man) From the land of the frozen North, Calgary Alberta Canada Home of the Calgary Stampede and Calgary Commodore Users Group #! rnews 1420 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!news.= mathworks.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio= .no!news.global-one.no!news1.transpac.net!oden.abc.se!dos.canit.se!uno.ca= nit.se!p1.f411.n201!f411.n201!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm X-Comment-To: Dan Deel From: Pontus Berg Date: Wed, 03 Jul 96 00:11:06 +0200 Subject: c64/c128 emu Message-ID: <836377866@p71.f411.n201.z2.ftn> References: <1856629337@s2.GANet.NET> Organization: BoArDgasm, Farsta, Sweden X-FTN-AREA: CANIT_COMP_SYS_CBM X-FTN-MSGID: 2:201/411.71 31da1d0a X-FTN-REPLY: s2.GANet.NET 6ea9ea59 X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: Spot 1.3a #676 X-FTN-Origin: BoArDgasm, Farsta, Sweden (2:201/411.71) X-FTN-SEEN-BY: 201/411=20 X-FTN-PATH: 201/411=20 X-FTN-PATH: 201/411 Lines: 16 In a message of 30 Jun 96 Dan Deel wrote to All: DD> Could someone tell me where I can get a good C64/C128 emu for DD> Windows/Windows95? A great question ... in Comp.EMULATORS.CBM! (The answer is PC64 2.02 but = any followup to that one is for thementioned group only - here we go for the = real thing!) )=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D( ) o/ Bacchus@FairLight.COM Fido: 2:201/411.71 ( ) (# HTTP://WWW.Canit.Se/ANet/p71.html ( )=3D/7=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D( ... MicroSoft, as good as AIDS! (Pontus) #! rnews 1674 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!No= rway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!news.global-one.no!news1.transpac.net!oden.abc.se= !dos.canit.se!uno.canit.se!p1.f411.n201!f411.n201!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm X-Comment-To: Yogi From: Pontus Berg Date: Wed, 03 Jul 96 00:16:08 +0200 Subject: Pirates Codes? Message-ID: <836378168@p71.f411.n201.z2.ftn> References: <1628272244@news.superlink.net> Organization: BoArDgasm, Farsta, Sweden X-FTN-AREA: CANIT_COMP_SYS_CBM X-FTN-MSGID: 2:201/411.71 31da1e38 X-FTN-REPLY: news.superlink.net 610d7674 X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: Spot 1.3a #676 X-FTN-Origin: BoArDgasm, Farsta, Sweden (2:201/411.71) X-FTN-SEEN-BY: 201/411=20 X-FTN-PATH: 201/411=20 X-FTN-PATH: 201/411 Lines: 19 In a message of 01 Jul 96 Yogi wrote to All: Y> Besides, no one Y> reads emulator newsgroups except people who write the emulators. So if noone here answer you, will you ask in Comp.sys.Atari (whatever) an= d follow to "Alt.binaries.picuters.nude.celebreties" (or whatever it's call= ed) untill you find someone not getting pissed off? Different newsgroups are for different subjects. It's either OK or OT (fo= r OFF topic), which means you may and may not aksk the question in that newsgro= up! )=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D( ) o/ Bacchus@FairLight.COM Fido: 2:201/411.71 ( ) (# HTTP://WWW.Canit.Se/ANet/p71.html ( )=3D/7=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D( ... Marx got ONE thing - Religion is an opium for the people (Pontus Berg) #! rnews 1262 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!winternet.com!n1ott.istar!ott.istar!istar.= net!van.istar!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!= srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca!pdporth From: Phil Porth Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,alt.fun.with.steve Subject: Re: Name the most common post to comp.sys.cbm Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:41:07 -0600 Organization: Calgary Free-Net Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <4r0962$bcc@ruby.ucc.nau.edu> <31D89073.57EA@maui.netwave.net= > NNTP-Posting-Host: pdporth@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII To: Steve De Rose In-Reply-To: <31D89073.57EA@maui.netwave.net> Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com comp.sys.cbm:57391 alt.fun.with.steve:585 On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Steve De Rose wrote: > I am amazed that no one has suggested =3D > 41) How can I {swive (look it up)} my JiffyDOS? !=3DD> ^^^^^ Not in my Funk and Wagnalls Phil Porth (aka Phone Man) From the land of the frozen North, Calgary Alberta Canada Home of the Calgary Stampede and Calgary Commodore Users Group #! rnews 1034 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!v= an-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!srv1.freenet.ca= lgary.ab.ca!pdporth From: Phil Porth Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: SuperCPU-64 status? Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 01:00:00 -0600 Organization: Calgary Free-Net Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <31CF00A7.64A5@softd= isk.com> <4raam5$51r@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pdporth@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII To: Rich Will Powers In-Reply-To: <4raam5$51r@panix.com> On 2 Jul 1996, Rich Will Powers wrote: > Ok, I'm curious. What is SuperCPU-64? > the 5 cent explanation ....A plug in 20 meghz. processor for the 64 Phil Porth (aka Phone Man) From the land of the frozen North, Calgary Alberta Canada Home of the Calgary Stampede and Calgary Commodore Users Group #! rnews 1457 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!fu-berlin.de!zib-berlin.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!fachat From: fachat@physik.tu-chemnitz.de (Andre Fachat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Multithreading OS for the C64, Erratum Date: 4 Jul 1996 07:18:15 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4rfr7n$g4a@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <4q3u1i$rd7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <4rcqt2$p2u@seagoon.newcast= le.edu.au> <4re6d3$8oe@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <4rfejf$esv@seagoon.new= castle.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: mclane.physik.tu-chemnitz.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Bruce R. McFarling (ecbm@cc.newcastle.edu.au) wrote: : fachat@physik.tu-chemnitz.de (Andre Fachat) wrote: : >You mean C64, don't you? : Can you tell I'm almost done marking final exams? : Yeah, that should have read "C64" instead of 6502. Well at least someone gets my posts.=20 My articles seem to magically disappear from our news server - after a few hours they're gone. How many posts on this subject did you get? Andre -- Andre Fachat, Tel:++49-371-531-3551|"I do not feel obliged to believe tha= t the Stadlerstr 17, 09126 Chemnitz, FRG | same God who has endowed us with sen= se, a.fachat@physik.tu-chemnitz.de | reason, and intellect has intended u= s to http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~fachat | forego their use" -- Galileo Galilei #! rnews 2069 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!news-res.gsl.net!= news.gsl.net!EU.net!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net= !uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!gate.demon.co.= uk From: Jason Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: What or who is Visacorp? Date: Wed, 3 Jul 96 23:00:48 GMT Organization: Cosine Systems Lines: 27 Message-ID: <9607032300.AA0047r@cosine.demon.co.uk> References: <4reekv$8g1@ruby.ucc.nau.edu> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gate.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [AMIGA 1.3 950726BETA PL0] X-Mail2News-Path: relay-1.mail.demon.net!gate.demon.co.uk Paul Allen Panks (pap@dana.ucc.nau.edu) wrote: : What is Visacorp, and what is AT?Does it tie in with the Commodore=20 : community? I've been out of touch with the commodore community for abou= t=20 : half a year now until just recently, so I might have missed something b= ig=20 : inbetween. Viscorp are a nice bunch of people who like Amigas and have the rights to sell 'em. The management of the company is mostly made up of ex C=3D staff (mainly from CDTV). The company makes set top boxes (for decoding cable and so on) and I believe (but may be wrong in saying) that they were tied in with Escom when C=3D was brought out to do the very same. AT is Amiga Technologies. When Escom took over C=3D they split what they had. The C=3D label became a PC distributor for Escom's crap machines an= d Amiga Tech was founded to sell the Amiga. One thing I missed is who owns the old 8bit C=3D architecture now? Jason =3D-) ____________________________________________________________________= ___ TMR / / / / / / / = /\ / /__/ / / /__/ / / / /__/ Email: tmr@cosine.demon.co.uk = / / / /\_/ / /__ / / / / __// Cosine Homepage: = / / / /__/ / / / / / / / / / members.tripocom/~tmr/cosine.html /= / /_____/_____/_____/___/__/_____/_____________________________________/ = / \_____\_____\_____\__\__\__\_____\_____________________________________\/ #! rnews 4190 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!news.= mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uniol!uni= -erlangen.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!fachat From: fachat@physik.tu-chemnitz.de (Andre Fachat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.emulators.cbm,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.atar= i.8bit Subject: Re: Multithreading OS for the C64 Followup-To: comp.sys.cbm,comp.emulators.cbm,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.ata= ri.8bit Date: 4 Jul 1996 07:30:58 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Lines: 62 Message-ID: <4rfrvi$g56@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <4q3u1i$rd7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <4rba6u$9uj@peippo.cs.tut.fi> <4rd7o2$5k5@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: mclane.physik.tu-chemnitz.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com comp.sys.cbm:57395 comp.emulators.cbm:12274 comp= .sys.apple2:105159 comp.sys.atari.8bit:38453 [Hi, I found out what was removing the messages: a cancelbot from=20 alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt! Grrr! So I removed it from the Followup-To-l= ine and the Newsgroups line and try to summarize my last posts. Please=20 ignore if you have already read my last posts, but please remove alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt from the Newsgroups and Followup-To line when replying to the other message. Sorry for the inconvenience. Andre] --------------------snip----------------- : Notice that normally the 6502 address space is full : with additional memory (if available) banked in by an external : memory management arrangement. So if the 6502 *had* 'boundary : errors' it would be pointless -- I believe the Andre's original : 6502 box had memory banking on 4K boundaries (is that right?) Yes you are right. The upper 4 address bits were taken as index into 16 registers each 8 bit wide. So I had 16 chunks of memory, each 4kByte in size. These could then be mapped to any of 256 chunks within the=20 extended up to 1MByte memory. =20 --------------------snip----------------- In my original design, the memory pages from other processes just couldn'= t be accessed, as they were not mapped in. (As I explained in another post). A process with 8kByte RAM just had access to 8 kByte RAM and the rest of the address space would be mapped into some read-only regions (well, I used the kernel image...) So that the process can just change it's own RAM. That's even a way to implement paging, i.e. put a process out on disk=20 if memory is short. Only one thing, as you mentioned, has to be taken care of: The 6502 cannot detect memory faults, so that _all_ memory pages belonging to the process must be mapped and accessible when it is run. (Even if there were some hardware mechanism to detect the fault, there is no way to restore the original register values as before the trapped memory access - which is essential to correctly re-execute the offending opcode after the page has been loaded. The capability to restore the register values was one of the few improvements of the Motorola 68010 CPU above the 68000.) --------------------snip----------------- Well, I'm using the timer interrupt. But then I use the IRQ timer. A disadvantage is, that 'nasty' programs can take full control over the machine. An advantage is that the system itself cannot be=20 interrupted when doing critical routines. Well, that could have been taken care of with a flag (to immediately return from NMI) but I thought it was easier this way. And as I wanted to run close-to-hardware processes on the machine, I wanted a process to be able to protect itself from task switching. (for timing critical hardware handling) Which is obviously easier when just doing a SEI instead of=20 calling some StopMultiTasking or RestartMultiTasking (as the Amiga does) to access some kernel internal flag - which is not available in the=20 process memory. --------------------snip----------------- -- Andre Fachat, Tel:++49-371-531-3551|"I do not feel obliged to believe tha= t the Stadlerstr 17, 09126 Chemnitz, FRG | same God who has endowed us with sen= se, a.fachat@physik.tu-chemnitz.de | reason, and intellect has intended u= s to http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~fachat | forego their use" -- Galileo Galilei #! rnews 1780 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!munn= ari.OZ.AU!metro!metro!seagoon.newcastle.edu.au!usenet From: "Bruce R. McFarling" Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: How to connect to internet with a C64? Date: 4 Jul 1996 08:51:00 GMT Organization: Department of Economics, University of Newcastle Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4rg0lk$q7f@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> References: <31D66083.37BE@ra.nettuno.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: econ70.newcastle.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) Phil Porth wrote: > For the 64 or 128 the first thing you need is an internet provider > willing to give you a Dos Shell access account, NOT Graphics (PPP > or SLIP) Where did this weird notion that PPP or SLIP are somehow intrinsically 'graphical' come from? We saw this last year when someone was saying the C64 would 'never' get a SLIP because it didn't have the capabilities, and turns out he meant graphic capabilities. Is it a common practice of providers who sell PPP or SLIP access to bundle it with a graphical browser as a front end, so that people confuse the two? Because Point to Point Protocol or Serial=20 Link Internet Protocol are both just about shuffing a bytestream around.=20 A SLIP or PPP point-and-click text ftp browser would be as=20 'non-graphical' as VT-100 terminal emulation talking to a shell account. And, BTW, would also be a hell of a good idea for an alpha for=20 the graphical WWW browsers that different people are developing. 8-)# Virtually, Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW ecbm@cc.newcastle.edu.au #! rnews 2274 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!howl= and.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!gti.gti.net!apollo= .gti.net!c128user From: "Glenn P.," Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Implementing a TIME command in adventure games? Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:13:17 -0400 Organization: GTI -- GlobalNet Telecom Incorporated. For information call= 1-(201)-285-9099 or E-Mail . Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <4r7sts$t5r@ruby.ucc.nau.edu> Reply-To: "Glenn P.," NNTP-Posting-Host: apollo.gti.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4r7sts$t5r@ruby.ucc.nau.edu> Return-Path: "Glenn P.," X-Receipt-To: "Glenn P.," Receipt-To: "Glenn P.," X-Gibberish: The Elephant says "Tusk, tusk!". Contents: Reply To Usenet Post. Expiration: 31-Jul-1996 Precedence: Normal Priority: Normal On 01-Jul-1996, Paul Allen Panks wrote: > What is the best way of going about doing a TIME function in an adventu= re=20 > game, one that will help determine weather and how the passage of time=20 > affects the player...? "Time" in adventure games is measured in *turns*, nothing more. Just set = a counter, T=3DT+1, at the start of your main command input loop, and branc= h to the appropriate subroutine when the appropriate number of turns has elaps= ed. --_____ {~._.~} "There are a hundred ways in which a boy can injure -- if = not _( Y )_ not indeed kill -- himself. The more advennturous he is and the (:_~*~_:) greater his initiative, the more ways he will find. If you prot= ect (_)-(_) him from each of the hundred, he is sure to find the hundred-an= d- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D first. Though most men can look back on their= boyhood and tremble =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D at the narrowness of some of their escapes, m= ost boys do in fact W.T.P. survive, more or less intact, and the wise father is the trusti= ng =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D father." =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D :: --=3D Glenn P. =3D-- :: --"The Enchanted Places", Chap= ter 21, :: c128user@GTI.Net :: By: Christopher Robin Milne.