#! rnews 1849 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.asu.edu!en= nfs.eas.asu.edu!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!= newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!qualcuno= .nettuno.it!sirio.cineca.it!NewsWatcher!user From: milocco@elettra.trieste.it (Andrea MILOCCO) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: 64/128 Prototyping Boards Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 11:20:19 +0100 Organization: Sincrotrone Trieste Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <4qgttg$8bu@nyx.cs.du.edu> <4r93ll$264@mksrv1.dseg.ti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mac-linac-1.elettra.trieste.it X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.1.2 > >276-192, with the card-edge cut down to just the right size. Does any= one > >know where I can get these boards with a card-edge with correct spacin= g > >and predrilled, 0.1" center holes coppered on the bottom side? >=20 > Try Digikey or Jameco. Its been a while since I looked but both stocke= d C64=20 > expansion prototype boards. Please, would you be so kind to tell me how to contact those sellers? Many thanks, Andrea --=20 ######################################################## # /\ |\/| # #/--\ndrea | |ILOCCO Trieste, ITALY # # # # # # ELETTRA, Syncrotron Facility # # Trieste, ITALY # # # # e-mail: milocco@elettra.trieste.it # # or milocco@thor.elettra.trieste.it # # # # office: ++39/40/375.8244 # ######################################################## #! rnews 559 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!n= ewsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!gonix!cjbr Date: 2 Jul 96 11:33:00 GMT Message-ID: From: cjbr@gonix.com (Jim Lawless) Organization: Greater Omaha Public Access Unix Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Writing C64 Adventure Games Lines: 10 For those of you interested in writing C64 adventure games, you might hit the following ftp site: ftp.cmd.de/pub/games/c64 There are a number of sample adventure programs in BASIC there. Jim Lawless cjbr@gonix.com #! rnews 970 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!n= ewsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!Belgium.EU.net!news= .bel.alcatel.be!ats.nld.alcatel.nl!hofman From: hofman@nlev00@btmv56.se.bel.alcatel.be (Peter Hofman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: I need a new VIC chip (VIC-IIE??) for C128 Date: 2 Jul 1996 10:51:20 GMT Organization: Alcatel telecom Systems Lines: 11 Sender: hofman@NLEV00@btmv56.se.bel.alcatel.be (Peter Hofman) Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rauv8$h8c@nlsun1.ats.nld.alcatel.nl> Reply-To: hofman%nlev00@btma56.se.bel.alcatel.be NNTP-Posting-Host: nles50.ats.nld.alcatel.nl X-Newsreader: mxrn 6.18-16 Hi, anyone know where to get a new VIC (VIC-IIE?) for my C128. I think it is a 8567, but I am not sure (have to look again). What I do know, it is that I need a PAL version. Does someone here in The Netherlands or in Europe know a store. Any other supplier names / addresses are also welcome. Regards, Peter #! rnews 1410 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!n= ews.mathworks.com!uunet!inXS.uu.net!nntp.inet.fi!news.csc.fi!ousrvr3.oulu= .fi!news From: Jouko Valta Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Assembler Date: 02 Jul 1996 10:50:36 +0300 Organization: University of Oulu, Department of Electrical Engineering, F= inland Lines: 22 Sender: jopi@stekt21.oulu.fi Message-ID: References: <4r95g2$r79@nyx10.cs.du.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: stekt21.oulu.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: btabke@nyx10.cs.du.edu's message of 1 Jul 1996 12:30:26 -060= 0 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Brett Tabke writes: Brett> Onno; O> Are there good cross assemblers on the PC for the 6510 ? Complete list of assemblers and cross-assemblers: http://www.wimsey.com/~danf/cbm/languages.html http://www.wimsey.com/~danf/cbm/cross-development.html Brett> ... "Daddy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C mean?" =20 Oh, nothing to worry about... jopi@{stekt,x2ftp}.oulu.fi The VICE http://stekt.oulu.fi/~jopi= / ICBM: 65,03'26.01"N 25,28'13.08"E // Game Programmer's FTP x2ftp.oulu= .fi ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- "Dammit, Beavis!" #! rnews 1052 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!skylink!shell.skylink.net!mrx From: mrx@skylink.net (Mr. X) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Wanted Date: 2 Jul 1996 16:25:37 GMT Organization: Skylink Networks (http://www.skylink.net/) Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4rbii1$4oj@news.skylink.net> References: <4r9pj4$jh1@stargate.ingress.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.skylink.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] The Junk Yard (deathmn@smartec.com) wrote: : I am looking for a Supersnapshot cartridge. SSI just got their new ship ment in a little while ago.... Software Support International 2700 NE Andresen Rd, Suite D-5 Vancouver, WA 98661 USA USA & Canada - 1-800-356-1179 Other Countries - 1-360-695-1393 Fax - 1-360-695-0059 email: software@pacifier.com :) =20 BTW - CMD now has Action Replay carts (same sort of thing as SS) -- _____________________________________________________________________= ___ (c) 1996 mrx@skylink.net All rights reserved. www.skylink.net/~m= rx #! rnews 1185 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!uunet!in2.uu.net!nwlink.com!usenet From: kea@nwlink.com (Ken Andreasen) Newsgroups: alt.forsale,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.apple2.market= place,comp.sys.atari.8bit,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.mac.wan= ted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.sys.ti,or.forsale Subject: Re: this is a test Date: 2 Jul 1996 16:30:12 GMT Organization: Northwest Link Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4rbiqk$7ci@texas.nwlink.com> References: <4kmv2c$r7t@julie.teleport.com> <31732F7B.69DC@mail.ncn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: port26.annex5.nwlink.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Voyager/AmigaOS 1.0 Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com alt.forsale:36224 comp.sys.amiga.marketplace:770= 67 comp.sys.apple2.marketplace:12841 comp.sys.atari.8bit:38380 comp.sys.a= tari.st:134720 comp.sys.cbm:57286 comp.sys.mac.wanted:109420 comp.sys.tan= dy:17914 comp.sys.ti:7644 or.forsale:22726 On Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:31:36 -0400, Perry Tryfonas=20 wrote: > hi there! > This is another test! Goodbye #! rnews 1688 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!news= feed.internetmci.com!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!nntp.uib.no!nntp-be= rgen.UNINETT.no!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!newsfeed.sunet.se!news01.sunet.se!sun= ic!news99.sunet.se!news.chalmers.se!news.gu.se!news From: MagerValp@Goth.Org Subject: Re: 1570 Disk Drive. In-Reply-To: John J McGlinchey's message of Wed, 26 Jun 96 17:02:28 GMT Message-ID: Sender: cl3polof@hugin.cling.gu.se Nntp-Posting-Host: hugin.cling.gu.se Organization: Educational Programme for Computational Linguistics, Univ. = of Gothenburg X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.2 References: <9606261702.AA0005c@scarletl.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:37:02 GMT Lines: 19 >>>>> "John" =3D=3D John J McGlinchey = writes: John> Several years ago I bought a second hand 1570 disk drive. I have John> always used it as a 1541 and have never encountered any problems John> with it. It's still use on my A64 emulator on my Amiga. John> Does anyone know about any features it may have that the 1541 John> doesn't, I've never seen a manual for it. it's basically a single-sided 1571, so it can handle a few mfm-formats and the C128's fast serial and burst mode(?)... --=20 ___ . + . . . Per Olofsson ._|___|_, . . . . . + . . o =20 o-o + . + MagerValp@Goth.Org . . + + + . =20 - . . . o + . . . =20 " + + . http://www.cling.gu.se/~cl3polof/ C++ - like C but with two trainers #! rnews 1172 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!castle.nando.net!news From: bkurson@nando.net (Zotar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Parser: $10 reward up to $15 Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 17:29:59 GMT Organization: Not very... Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4rbmc7$cp1@castle.nando.net> References: <4r23gm$muu@ruby.ucc.nau.edu> Reply-To: bkurson@nando.net NNTP-Posting-Host: grail907.nando.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 pap@dana.ucc.nau.edu (Paul Allen Panks) wrote: >Well, I think that upping the money offered to $15 might{arise some=20 >interest in my search for a quick and efficient parser that accepts=20 >multiple commands (such as GET CHAIR AND THEN GO NORTH AND ENTER THE DOO= R) >Again,it must be written in BASIC. The winner, who writes the best parse= r=20 >in the least amount of code will receive $15 from me. Paul, You should check out the book "COMPUTE's Guide to Adventure Games" ISBN 0-942386-67-1. It tells you everything you ever wanted wanted to know about writing parsers and adventure games. Gee, if I photocopy the section on writing parsers and mail it to you do I get $15.00? Hehe Z #! rnews 1209 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!castle.nando.net!news From: bkurson@nando.net (Zotar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Problem with M.U.L.E.? Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 17:39:33 GMT Organization: Not very... Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4rbmu4$cp1@castle.nando.net> References: <4ra5d7$2kv@mugca.cc.monash.edu.au> Reply-To: bkurson@nando.net NNTP-Posting-Host: grail907.nando.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 mspinks@mugca.cc.monash.edu.au (Matthew Spinks) wrote: >Hi, >Does anyone else have this problem? When playing M.U.L.E. in beginner >mode, the program goes into a loop when the ship comes back after six mo= nths. >Is this a known bug, or is there something wrong with my copy? If it i= s a >bug, are there any fixes? >Cheers, >- Matthew. Matthew, I can't say if that is a bug or not because even tho I have played hundreds of games of M.U.L.E. I have never played in beginner mode. Why you ask? Because the highest level is the only way to play M.U.L.E. Because only at the highest level does crystite come into play and that is what the game is all about. Try it at the highest level and never look back....... Z #! rnews 1292 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!bcm.tmc.edu!newshost.convex.com= !cnn.exu.ericsson.se!eua.ericsson.se!erinews.ericsson.se!news.seinf.abb.s= e!news.mdh.se!news From: dal95acn@mds.mdh.se (Anders Carlsson SdU) Newsgroups: comp.emulators.cbm,comp.sys.cbm Subject: VIC20 programs for trade Date: 02 Jul 1996 20:25:55 +0200 Organization: Student Union at the university of M=E4lardalen, Sweden. Lines: 15 Sender: dal95acn@legolas.mdh.se Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: legolas.mdh.se X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com comp.emulators.cbm:12237 comp.sys.cbm:57290 Hello dear VIC20 fans & users out there, I would like to trade some programs with you if you have any. I know of some ftp services already, but maybe some of you still have games at home that I don't have. Both tape, disk and cartridge games are of high interest. Of course it's difficult to transfer it and send/receive email if you don't have a PC etc plus any kind of cable for it. If you need help, you're welcome to ask me how you should do it. I can also give you limited help how to transfer certain kinds of games, i.e cartridges, multipart tape etc. With best regards on success, Anders Carlsson #! rnews 2384 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.ti.com!news.dseg.ti.com!ne= ws=09 From: egotrip@lesol1.dseg.ti.com (Mike Neus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,dfw.general Subject: Commodore User Group Meeting (Dallas, Texas USA) Date: 2 Jul 1996 18:43:56 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Lines: 38 Message-ID: <4rbqlc$91t@mksrv1.dseg.ti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cns0599352.dseg.ti.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com comp.sys.cbm:57291 dfw.general:17666 North Dallas Commodore User Group Meeting Announcement (Dallas, Texas USA) Sorry about the extreme lateness of this message... The North Dallas Commodore User Group (NDCUG) is a club devoted to all "Classic" Commodore computers including PET, Commodore 64/128, and other 8-bit machines. If you have a Classic Commodore and are looking for supp= ort, Commodore conversation, the latest news and developments, or are just=20 curious, please drop by. Our next meeting is scheduled to meet at the Pl= ano=20 Haggard Public Library on Tuesday July 2 in the library's meeting room at= =20 7:30pm. This month we will start a two or three part project on building a stereo= SID=20 cartridge. If you don't know what this is, it is a cartridge containing = a=20 SID chip that plugs into the expansion port. Depending on the software y= ou=20 use, you can use both chips in tandem to create 3 voice stereo effects or= 6=20 voice mono sounds. The usual club equipment will be there except this month the C128D will b= e=20 traded for an IBM clone computer so we can do PCB CAD work. Chances are = good=20 an FD-4000, a 3.2MB floppy drive from CMD, will be there as well. This m= akes=20 the total equipment list this month is an SX64, CMD HD, FD-4000, and a PC= =20 clone. A bit different than normal but variety is the spice of life! As always, feel free to bring your own equipment and/or software if the a= bove=20 does not suit you. Also bring your thoughts, questions, and your unique = toys=20 to enlighten us. The Plano Haggard Library is located at 2501 Coit Road, midway between Pa= rk and Parker in Plano. It's phone number is (214) 964-4250. For further information, please E-mail me at Egotrip@lesol1.dseg.ti.com, or call the=20 NDCUG support BBS, The Mars Den, at (214) 276-6721. Mike Neus Egotrip@lesol1.dseg.ti.com #! rnews 1406 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!tank.news.pi= pex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.be.innet.net!INbe.net!news.n= l.innet.net!INnl.net!hunter.premier.net!news.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.e= du!cdc2.cdc.net!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news= .zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!spartacus.hula.net!jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Searching spare-parts for C64 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:58:20 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <31D6604F.35FD@ra.nettuno.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII To: daniele righini In-Reply-To: <31D6604F.35FD@ra.nettuno.it> Daniele wrote On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, daniele righini wrote: Where can we find parts ic chips etc for c64 Try Jameco Electronics email info@jameco.com web site http://www.jameco.com Or easier yet fone them at (800) 237-6948. They have CBM chips still available as well as lots of other goodies that can be used with CBM stuff, like monochrome monitors, heavy duty power supplies formerly used for other computers but easily modified for C64 or C128. ***** kilroy ***** #! rnews 1608 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!sparta= cus.hula.net!jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: How to connect to internet with a C64? Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:05:36 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <31D66083.37BE@ra.nettuno.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII To: daniele righini In-Reply-To: <31D66083.37BE@ra.nettuno.it> On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, daniele righini wrote: > Anyone can say me how is possible to connect a C64 or C128 to inter- > net for various services like FTP, E-MAIL, NEWSGROUPS and browsing > WWW or GOPHER sites. Get yourself one of these term programs "Dialogue" "Desterm" or=20 "Daves Term". Get a 2400 baud modem or better such as Aprotek=20 minimodem C24. (Much better if your get "Swiftlink" cable and=20 cartridge from CMD) plus a BOCA type modem with 28.8 Kbaud speed. Then find a local server that offers "Shell" accounts and sign up. After that its a slow steady process of learning how to use "PINE"=20 for your mail box, LYNX for your browsing thru the www, TIN for reading some 3000 or more newsgroups. (I stick with comp.sys.cbm only). ***** kilroy ***** Of course I assume you have a C128, otherwise if C64 then get Novaterm 9.5 or 9.6 for software, and the rest holds true. #! rnews 2142 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.emulators.cbm,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.atar= i.8bit,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com= !news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!EU.net!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: Multithreading OS for the C64 X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) Reply-To: pe1chl@amsat.org Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <4q3u1i$rd7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:20:50 GMT Lines: 33 Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com comp.sys.cbm:57294 comp.emulators.cbm:12239 comp= .sys.apple2:105050 comp.sys.atari.8bit:38387 alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt:= 23254 PRR In M.Ruigrok@inter.nl.net (Maarten Ruigrok) wri= tes: >fs1@aixterm2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Andre Fachat) wrote: >>This is the announcement of "OS/A65", a 6502 CPU operating system >>I wrote some time ago and which I now put on the Web. It is >>copyrighted under the GNU public license. >>Some of its features are: >> - preemptive multitasking/multithreading >how did you make it pre-emptive when the 6502 processor itself has no wa= y to >check for boundaries or anything (so called trap errors coming from the >processor itself (in pc systems btw)). Maybe you need to read the definition of pre-emptive again? It seems like you are trying to refer to virtual memory but it has no relation with pre-emptive multitasking! >In what way can the operating system take >back and control software running under it?. Using a timer interrupt or an interrupt from an I/O device, for example. >Maybe someone from microsoft could >implement it in their own products ;-). I don't think discussion of Microsoft products is relevant here. Rob --=20 +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------= ---+ | Rob Janssen pe1chl@amsat.org | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 loca= l) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.= EU | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------= ---+ #! rnews 940 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news.zeit= geist.net!news.pixi.com!news.hula.net!spartacus.hula.net!jfenn From: Joesph Fenn Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Wanted Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:26:12 -1000 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <4r9pj4$jh1@stargate.ingress.com> <4rbii1$4oj@news.skylink.ne= t> NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus.hula.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII To: "Mr. X" In-Reply-To: <4rbii1$4oj@news.skylink.net> On 2 Jul 1996, Mr. X wrote: > The Junk Yard (deathmn@smartec.com) wrote: > : I am looking for a Supersnapshot cartridge. >=20 The Action Replay is superior to the SS V5!!! **** kilroy **** #! rnews 1590 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.u= texas.edu!news.ti.com!news.dseg.ti.com!news=09 From: egotrip@lesol1.dseg.ti.com (Mike Neus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: comp.sys.cbm alive and well. Date: 2 Jul 1996 21:38:17 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4rc4s9$2hq@mksrv1.dseg.ti.com> References: <4qf7om$2i9s@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> <9606230211.AA003we@cosi= ne.demon.co.uk> <4qmq70$2fne@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> <4r8rvq$264@mksrv1.d= seg.ti.com> <9607020117.AA0045j@cosine.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: cns0599352.dseg.ti.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article <9607020117.AA0045j@cosine.demon.co.uk>, tmr@cosine.demon.co.u= k=20 says... > >iachetta@vnet.ibm.com: >: Thanks to all for the replys (newsgroup and email). Sounds like some = cool >: new things have come along for the C64/128s. By the way, did any of t= he >: advances allow more than 16 colors to be displayed? > >Mike Neus: >: Yes and no... > >: Yes, with some software trickery, you can display more than 16 colors.= =20 >: Basically you alternate between two or more colors very rapidly, you g= et >: the effect of having more color at the expense of some mild flicker. > >Technical term: Interlace Actually it is not interlacing as most people think of the term. I=20 personally think dithering is a better term and is also more commonly=20 accepted to refer to this type of process outside of the C64 community. = I=20 purposly did not say interlace because I personally think it is confusing= and=20 misleading. #! rnews 1920 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.int= ernetmci.com!in2.uu.net!News.MO.NET!Walden.mo.net!not-for-mail From: pbunch@Walden.mo.net (Phil Bunch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Maybe A Virus? Date: 2 Jul 1996 21:54:15 GMT Organization: -=3DMO.NET=3D- MVP-Net, Inc's Missouri Operations Lines: 36 Message-ID: <4rc5q7$fvp@twain.mo.net> References: <4r3gvb$k5q@twizzler.callamer.com> <4r4dja$3cs@nnrp1.news.pri= menet.com> <4r66ic$qjf@umbc8.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: walden.mo.net X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] sokos mark (msokos1@umbc.edu) wrote: :=20 : Try formatting a blank disk. Yeah, it sounds silly, but I've seen copy : protection that will seemingly screw up a disk drive, but is completely : fixed by just formatting a disk. I'm assuming it has something to do wi= th : the head alignment, but I've never tried to trace down the problem so : it's just a wild guess at this point. :=20 : - Mark Sokos (msokos1@gl.umbc.edu)=20 : Electrical engineer, computer geek (er, programmer) in training,=20 : no-talent bum musician (have bass, will travel), and perpetual studen= t I am glad you brought that one up, I forgot about it.=20 What happens is that some programs will write some=20 information out on track 36 or 37 for their copy protection. Since CBM only has 35 normal tracks the disk drive head will be in the blank area of a normal diskette. Since the drive cannot find any sync marks with track information, it get "confused" and starts flashing the error light. Either formatting ( as you previously said) or initializing a diskette or inserting the (correct) shipping head protecter back into the drive should solve this particular problem. By doing one of the above procedures it will force the drive to do the "head bump" routine that will bring the head back into the "normal" area... Hope this helps, =20 Phil Bunch N0MFC pbunch@mo.net or phil@slacc.com #! rnews 1144 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuser= ve.com!news From: Richard J. Concepcion <72376.3650@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Triumph of the Nerds Date: 2 Jul 1996 21:17:37 GMT Organization: Rapid T. Rabbit Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4rc3lh$c93$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> References: Andrew Freck wrote...=09 >Frankly, I'm happy that Gates ISN'T associated with the >64... I never really thought of the 64 as being a Nerd's=20 >computer. Gates was much happier with the number crunching=20 >"BOXES" such as the Altair, CPM, and early IBMs... Thankfully,=20 >the 64 seems to be a favorite among the more creative, less=20 >NERDLY, types... I wish Gates weren't....but didn't Microsoft write both Commodore=20 Basic V2 (for the VIC-20) and Commodore 64 Basic V2.0 ? --=20 Richard Concepcion. Watch my TV show,"Rapid T. Rabbit and Friends", Mondays 5pm on MNN Channel 16, Time Warner Cable of NYC=20 Manhattan...http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Rapid_T_Rabbit #! rnews 1742 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!news.campus.mci.net!calweb!gigo!cee-64!jack.vanderwhi= te From: Jack.Vanderwhite@cee-64.gigo.com (Jack Vanderwhite) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: For Sale list 7a Date: 02 Jul 96 13:50:01 Organization: Fidonet: COMMODORE CEE SACRAMENTO, CA (916) 339-3403 Lines: 33 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: gigo.com NNTP-Posting-User: account=3Dgigo ident=3Djfesler Prices below do not include shipping. All prices are in US dollars. On some items I have more than 1 but only listed once.=20 =20 On Super Graphix Gold the prices are minimum I will accept. They will go to the highest offer at or over those prices. =20 IEEE Interfaces: 1. Skyles IEEE for 64 w/docs. $45 2. BUSCARD II w/IEEE cable and docs. $25 =20 RS-232 Interfaces: 1. Omnitronix Deluxe w/docs $15 =20 Printer Interfaces: 1. SUPER GRAPHIX GOLD in original box w/docs,=20 Disk and Power Supply. $65 2. SUPER GRAPHIX GOLD w/docs, disk, power supply $55 3. SUPER GRAPHIX Sr. w/docs, disk $30 4. Cardco +G interface w/docs $15 5. Cardco Super G interface w/docs $15 6. Grappler CD interface w/docs $15 =20 Miscellaneous: 1. SWL Microlog Cart for hams. $10 2. Commodore 1200 Baud modem still sealed in box. $10 3. 1520 plotter mechanisms complete $10 =20 Reply via Fido netmail to 1:203/999 or e-mail to jack.vanderwhite@cee-64.gigo.com =20 -- : Fidonet: Jack Vanderwhite 1:203/999 .. speaking for only myself. : Internet: Jack.Vanderwhite@cee-64.gigo.com #! rnews 732 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!news.campus.mci.net!calweb!gigo!cee-64!jack.vanderwhi= te From: Jack.Vanderwhite@cee-64.gigo.com (Jack Vanderwhite) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: For Sale 7b Date: 02 Jul 96 14:28:02 Organization: Fidonet: COMMODORE CEE SACRAMENTO, CA (916) 339-3403 Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: gigo.com NNTP-Posting-User: account=3Dgigo ident=3Djfesler Video Toaster for Amiga A3000. $500 =20 Reply netmail to baord on origin line or e-mail to jack.vanderwhite@cee-64.gigo.com =20 -- : Fidonet: Jack Vanderwhite 1:203/999 .. speaking for only myself. : Internet: Jack.Vanderwhite@cee-64.gigo.com #! rnews 496 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.= com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!buffnet2.buffnet.net!usenet From: slippery@buffnet.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: RS 232 Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 21:57:07 GMT Organization: BuffNET Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4rc68a$sg1@buffnet2.buffnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dppp19.buffnet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Looking for a RS 232 interface for commodore 64 or plans to build one. Slippery@buffnet.net #! rnews 1149 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!noc.= nyx.net!nyx10.cs.du.edu!not-for-mail From: btabke@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Brett Tabke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: ANNOUNCE: C64 Prog Ref Gu Date: 2 Jul 1996 16:08:06 -0600 Organization: University of Denver, Math/CS Dept. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4rc6k6$7c1@nyx10.cs.du.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nyx10.nyx.net vm> The Project 64 etext of the Commodore 64 Programmer's vm> Reference Guide, first edition. Converted to etext by vm> Ville Muikkula. ... vm> I hope that this massive vm> project shows to the C=3D community that it is in a fact vm> possible for one man to convert a 500 page book to vm> ASCII text. One just have to be dedicated, believe that vm> it can be done and have the PATIENCE for it... vm> of free time. So, who's going to etext Inside Commodore vm> DOS? Who has Gerald Nuefeld's email address? I'd like to forward a copy of the above message to him and visacorp. Last time I looked there was a copyright notice on the inside of the above mentioned books. = =20 #! rnews 1576 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!elro= y.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!news.PBI.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmc= i.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!druid.borland.com!usene= t From: squonk@mousehouse.com (Josh Lubliner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: How to transfer files from PC to C64? Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 00:25:05 GMT Organization: Borland Intl Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4rcep2$net@druid.borland.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nvorapc2.borland.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I have some files that I need to transfer from my PC to my Commodore 64. I have a serial cable that goes from DB25 to C64 user port (at least I think it's the user port -- the one with the male edge connector), but I don't have any software to go with it -- in fact, I don't have any software at all (except the software to run the PROM burner which is the entire reason for getting the files onto the C64 in the first place -- and that software is on a PROM!) So, does anyone have any information on how to communicate with the user port in C64 BASIC? The best thing would be if you could send me a source code listing of a program that would solve my problem; but a description of such a program would do. At the very least, I need the addresses of the user port (i.e. how to set and read the various pins, etc.), and I'm not really very familiar with serial communication protocol, either, so any information on that would be helpful too. E-mail replies greatly appreciated. squonk@mousehouse.com or jlubliner@wpo.borland.com --Josh #! rnews 1945 Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.emulators.cbm,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.atar= i.8bit,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!howl= and.reston.ans.net!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!news.PBI.net!news.ma= thworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!torn!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!undergrad= .math.uwaterloo.ca!csbruce From: csbruce@ccnga.uwaterloo.ca (Craig Bruce) Subject: Re: Multithreading OS for the C64 Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:18:24 GMT References: <4q3u1i$rd7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Nntp-Posting-Host: ccnga.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo, Canada (eh!) Lines: 23 Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com comp.sys.cbm:57304 comp.emulators.cbm:12243 comp= .sys.apple2:105057 comp.sys.atari.8bit:38390 alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt:= 23260 In article , Maarten Ruigrok wrote: >fs1@aixterm2.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Andre Fachat) wrote: >> - preemptive multitasking/multithreading >how did you make it pre-emptive when the 6502 processor itself has no wa= y to >check for boundaries or anything (so called trap errors coming from the >processor itself (in pc systems btw)). In what way can the operating sys= tem >take back and control software running under it?. Maybe someone from=20 >microsoft could implement it in their own products ;-). Um, Timer Interrupts (IRQ). They have been around for a long time. I personally have implemented them to implement multitasking in my VIC-20 and in my course-project Real-Time 486 multitasking OS. It's not that hard. PC-industry OS developers just don't know what they're doing. :-) Keep on Hackin'! -Craig Bruce csbruce@ccnga.uwaterloo.ca "Never underestimate the power of a simple tool." C=3D256,64K-VDC,REU,RL16,HD200,FD4000,SL,USR28.8,C=3D128,1581,1571,C=3D64= C,1541,VIC20 #! rnews 1963 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.interne= tmci.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!netnews.worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!n= ews From: skip20@ix.netcom.com(JOHN LEO AUDITORE, SR) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: fs: Commodore stuff Date: 3 Jul 1996 03:03:26 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 52 Message-ID: <4rcntu$dfd@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ron-ny4-14.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Jul 02 10:03:26 PM CDT 1996 I have the following items available for sale: =20 1 - C128 computer, power supply, cables, manuals, etc. $65.00+ shipping =20 2 - C64 computers, power supply, cables, etc. 30.00 each + shipping =20 1 - C1571 disk drive 35.00 + shipping 1 - C1541 disk drive 20.00 + shipping 1 - Grappler CD printer interface15.00 1 - Cardco printer interface 10.00 1 - Commodore 300 baud modem 5.00 1 - Westridge 300 Baud modem 5.00 =20 Software for C128 1 - Fleet System 4 Word processor / database program &manuals-$20.00 1 - Microsoft Muliplan spreadsheet program from Epyx & manual- 20.00 1 - Timeworks=92 Sideways printer utility &manual - 20.00 1 - Clone Machine - back-up / disk utility for C64 & manual - 10.00 Software for C64 Copies of the following titles: Beachhead, Dateline, Flyer Fox, Karateka,Sub-Logic Flight Simulator, Jet Simulator, F15 Strike Eagle 15.00 for all CP/M Software I have a small collection of CP/M programs, mostly utilities like Newsys, Imp, Lsweep, Cat.lbr, Mex, etc. as well as some CP/M games - Adventure, being one. I=92m asking $20.00 for this collection. Let me know by e-mail if you would want the complete listing of these disks. Serious inquires only. Please reply by e-mail. Thank you. J.L. Auditore (skip20@ix.netcom.com) Mastic, NY USA=09 #! rnews 1953 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:33:51 -0500 From: doug.cotton@the-spa.com (Doug Cotton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: GEOS and Apple LaserWriter IINT Message-ID: References: <1996Jun27.183810.10715@hpal02.isd4.tafensw.edu.au> Organization: Creative Micro Designs, Inc. X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.0.6b4 NNTP-Posting-Host: s103.the-spa.com Lines: 24 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news.p= aonline.com!news3.paonline.com!s103.the-spa.com!user In article <1996Jun27.183810.10715@hpal02.isd4.tafensw.edu.au>, mwalters@hoasy5.isd4.tafensw.edu.au wrote: > So far I've been unsucessful in getting an Apple LaserWriter IINT to wo= rk with > GEOS. It's in Postscript mode, with RS232 at 9600 baud. My RS232 interf= ace > works fine (with a modem). I'm using a C64, GEOS v2 with the standard > LaserWriter drivers. The data seems to be getting through according to = a tester > I hooked up, but the LW isn't doing anything about it. The processing L= ED > doesn't blink as it should. Has anyone successfully used a IINT with GE= OS, or > is there some problem with its compatibility with the original Apple > LaserWriter? Try changing the speed to the lowest available baud rate first. Many of the user port RS-232 interfaces can't handle speeds as high as 9600. Doug Cotton E-mail: doug.cotton@the-spa.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | Creative Micro Designs, Inc. | Orders: (800) 6383-CMD | | P.O. 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X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.0.6b4 NNTP-Posting-Host: s103.the-spa.com Lines: 19 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsf= eed.internetmci.com!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news.p= aonline.com!news3.paonline.com!s103.the-spa.com!user In article <4r3nrf$ln4@news.sas.ab.ca>, rbthomas@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (= ) wrote: > Does GoDot (the commercial version) handle .Gifs? Does the demo versio= n=20 > handle .gifs? When and where will the commercial version be available = in=20 > N. America? A .gif decoder has just recently been added to the commercial version. CM= D is currently editing the English language version of the manaul in preparation for a release in N. America later this year. 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Box 646 | Support: (413) 525-0023 | | East Longmeadow, MA 01028 | Fax: (413) 525-0147 | --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Visit our WWW Site at: http://www.the-spa.com/cmd/ | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D #! rnews 4253 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!howl= and.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net= !netnews.worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!dispatch.news.demon= .net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!insosf1.netins.net From: Alan Jones Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Comal trivia Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:48:00 GMT Organization: Quad-cities Computer Society Lines: 78 Message-ID: <96070220251241992@qcs.org> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: insosf1.netins.net X-Mail2News-Path: insosf1.netins.net Jim Brain wrote trivia $198: Q - COMAL, a programming language available for Commodore computers, was created by whom? A - Borge Christensen and Benedict Lofstedt, although Borge is given the most credit. This is correct as written but of course there is more to the story. Here are some excerpts form "The Story of COMAL told by Borge Christensen", Comal Today issue 25, 1989. First some quotes about BASIC: "It is in fact, not a computer language. It is an offense to the human mind." - Benedict Lofstendt "It might very well be that the good God has invented the computer. But there is no doubt that his black majesty then came up with BASIC shortly thereafter in order to confuse peoples minds because that's the way he preferes to operate." - Borge Christensen "As a programming language, BASIC is a cruel hoax." - Alan Jones (If may allow my $.02 worth to stand with these esteemed fellows.) Borge first defined the language in 1974. The first version, COMAL 75 was written for the 16 bit Data General NOVA, by two bright young boys that Borge taught to program. Borge said: "I had a problem with one of them. He was a heavy drinker. Now and then he would go away, and we knew where he was. But only at a could ertain time when he had had enough could we pick him up. We could not persuade him to come back again until he had taken so much. He would then be very drunk. And we needed him, as he was our expert in debugging. Danish beer can be quite heavy, quite strong. We poured coffee in him, and put him into a cold showwer. Then he would work for 24 hours. It was just great." For extra credit, who were Borge's two students? In 1978 Borge defined a new improved version. It was called COMAL 80 because it was not completed until 1980 and it ran on Z80 computer. Morgens Kjar wrote Borge a critical letter about his definition of COMAL 80. Borge was impressed, "It was very good. I adjusted my COMAL according to what he advised me to do. And then I asked him if he might do ... He had intended to do an implementation for a computer that wuldn't have a any chance of going anywhere. I advised him not to do that, but instead to go for the Commodore PET. It was abviously a very good computer." "Morgens Kjaer made his version for Commodore, and this is the version now known as 0.14. After he did that, The UniComal group was set up and then went on. From then on I have not had much to do with it." I started with 0.14 on the C64. It only gave abot 10K free, and took a long time to load with a stock 1541. I instantly prefered it to BASIC 2.0. I bought the COMAL 2.0 cartridge as soon as it was available. Over the years there were small improvements in the disk loaded 0.14 to give it more 2.0 like commands, more free memory, a software fast loader, etc. The last version was the Power Driver with about 15K free and all this the commands and features except LOOP, packages, external procedures, and the error handler. A "compiler" is also available that will free up even more RAM. There is also a C128 cartridge, a CP/M COMAL 2.10, and versions for IBM, Amega, Unix and many other platforms. It is an international standardized language. However IMHO, it is only on the C64/128 where COMAL is the best language. If only Commodore had embraced COMAL the way they embraced GEOS... It seems seems to me that Morgens Kjaer should be in the trivia answer somehow. Also, Len Lindsay deserves credit for promoting COMAL in the USA and publishing Comal Today. One of the best "features" of COMAL was Comal Today and the quality and diversity of the people who supported it. alan.Jones@qcs.org ___ QWKRR128 V4.32 [R] #! rnews 1152 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!news-res.gsl.net!= news.gsl.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen= .cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!netnews.worldnet.att.ne= t!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.dem= on.co.uk!insosf1.netins.net From: Alan Jones Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: writing an effective Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:06:00 GMT Organization: Quad-cities Computer Society Lines: 17 Message-ID: <96070220251341993@qcs.org> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: insosf1.netins.net X-Mail2News-Path: insosf1.netins.net Paul Allen Panks et. al. have been discusing writing an effective parser in BASIC for adventure games. I would suggest that you try the COMAL programming language. It is easy to learn and much easier to use than BASIC. It also has exceptionaly good string handling. Comal Today #13, #14, and #23 disks had COMAL 2.0 adventure games. I also had an Adventur Creator (or Writer?) cartidge for the C64 that I gave away a couple months ago. You might want to look for one of those. alan.jones@qcs.org ___ QWKRR128 V4.32 [R] #! rnews 2031 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 00:13:47 -0500 From: doug.cotton@the-spa.com (Doug Cotton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.emulators.cbm,sfnet.atk.cbm Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: C64 Prog Ref Guide etext available Message-ID: References: <4r39hi$dd2@dub-news-svc-4.compuserve.com> Organization: Creative Micro Designs, Inc. X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.0.6b4 NNTP-Posting-Host: s103.the-spa.com Lines: 23 Path: pravda.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeeder.sdsu.= edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!spool.mu.edu!howland.r= eston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.mi= croserve.net!news.paonline.com!news3.paonline.com!s103.the-spa.com!user Xref: pravda.aa.msen.com comp.sys.cbm:57310 comp.emulators.cbm:12244 sfne= t.atk.cbm:151 In article <4r39hi$dd2@dub-news-svc-4.compuserve.com>, 74171.2136@compuserve.com (Cris Berneburg) wrote: > OK, it's finally done! The Commodore 64 Programmer's > Reference Guide is now available to you as a Project 64 > electronic text. 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